Trump employs illegals

[stickygirl]

and conceals them from Secret Service
https://youtu.be/qq1TucgtOFA

But then he can shoot someone in the street and no one cares. It doesn't matter.

 

[JackLuis]

Isn't that illegal? Or, isn't indicative of Individual #1's flaunting the law? Why do we let him get away with this shit?

Felonious Trump needs to face a court and then up against the WALL!

 

[LincolnDuncan]

They're taking jobs away from real Americans like me.

I want to be a maid.

 

[phrodeau]

Everybody ought to have a maid.

 

[My I]

Is has this been verified? Has anyone actually shown proof that they were employed by Trump? Or is this just more of the Liberal false accusation tactic? Did trump hire them personally?

Anyone can SAY anything. Being on the news doesn't make it true.

 

[jaF0]

Is has this been verified?

Anyone can SAY anything.

Is that like covefe or whatever the fool babbled?

 

[Bill_Cosplay]

Trump's business is not a small business.

Anyone that thinks Trump is hiring all of his employees are the same kind of people who think that talking and arguing the loudest makes you right.

What they need to do is "uncover" the business' written policies on hiring illegal immigrants. Next, they have to figure out if management acted on behalf of the club, or on behalf of a person they saw as one of their coworkers/employees/friend. Any possible reasons as to why they were hired, hidden, and kept on should be asked. Could have been: compassion by their immediate employers.

According to Wiki, the Trump Organization has 22,450 employees. How many does Trump know personally? He hires people and those people hire people, and it is in good faith that they will follow the law. In the end, you CAN'T make people follow the law.

And, MAYBE he did know about illegals working at his place and after seeing how they worked, he has first hand knowledge on why they shouldn't be allowed into this country in droves.

No one mentions that Trump has said that the US needs immigrants to fulfill jobs. He also said he wanted them to follow due process. What Trumps wants is to solve the problem of the criminal element before we allow every single person who wants in, in.

If the law makers spent 4 to 8 years right now (or however many) on getting tough with immigration and figuring out a plan that worked (no matter who it cost in the present) we could start letting people in for the rest of our country's lifespan instead of having a constant argument about it.

A small group of people are going to have to suffer now (that's how you build something that flourishes). Imagine these first few years of a no compromise immigration plan as two parents who work two jobs so that their kids can go to college and have careers and happy lives. Those parents could run and start over again, but they don't. Those parents sacrifice for the next generation. If we sacrifice now, then the everyone that comes after has a chance to rise.

No one wants to do the hard part, they just want it to work.

 

[My I]

Is that like covefe or whatever the fool babbled?

Really??? That's the best you can come up with? Tell your Mommy you need some more Capri Sun and a hug.

 

[someoneyouknow]

And, MAYBE he did know about illegals working at his place and after seeing how they worked, he has first hand knowledge on why they shouldn't be allowed into this country in droves.

Yes, he knows exactly how they work. He's bragged about them doing such great work it's why his lawn is so green:

"You know, the truth is I have a lot of illegals working for me in Miami,” he told them, using the term for undocumented immigrants those in the meeting found offensive. “You know in Miami, my golf course is tended by all these Hispanics — if it wasn’t for them my lawn wouldn’t be the lawn it is; it’s the best lawn,” Pacheco recalled Trump saying.

Trump said he knew the work of undocumented people is what makes his golf courses and hotels great.​

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/01/1_11_2016_6_16.html

No one mentions that Trump has said that the US needs immigrants to fulfill jobs.

He's said he hires immigrants because U.S. citizens want full-time jobs:

Trump has made the case that he couldn't find American workers. "It's almost impossible to get help," the Republican presidential candidate told CNN last month. "And part of the reason you can't get American people is they want full time jobs."​

https://money.cnn.com/2016/03/18/news/economy/trump-maralago/index.html

He also said he wanted them to follow due process. What Trumps wants is to solve the problem of the criminal element before we allow every single person who wants in, in.

Is that why he has illegals at his failing golf clubs? Because he wants them to follow due process?

 

[Bill_Cosplay]

Yes, he knows exactly how they work. He's bragged about them doing such great work it's why his lawn is so green:

"You know, the truth is I have a lot of illegals working for me in Miami,” he told them, using the term for undocumented immigrants those in the meeting found offensive. “You know in Miami, my golf course is tended by all these Hispanics — if it wasn’t for them my lawn wouldn’t be the lawn it is; it’s the best lawn,” Pacheco recalled Trump saying.

Trump said he knew the work of undocumented people is what makes his golf courses and hotels great.​

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/01/1_11_2016_6_16.html



He's said he hires immigrants because U.S. citizens want full-time jobs:

Trump has made the case that he couldn't find American workers. "It's almost impossible to get help," the Republican presidential candidate told CNN last month. "And part of the reason you can't get American people is they want full time jobs."​

https://money.cnn.com/2016/03/18/news/economy/trump-maralago/index.html



Is that why he has illegals at his failing golf clubs? Because he wants them to follow due process?

That tells you a lot about Trump.

He's no racist.
He wants immigrants in our country.
He's compassionate and can recognize the value in people who work hard.
It also tells you that if he wants the borders closed, then its not because of the people that can be hired, but because of the people that CAN'T be hired and bring nothing to America except violence.

There is a problem that needs fixing, and that's what he wants fixed before the doors are opened.

Too many people see what they want to see when they look at Trump. They can't DEDUCE the evidence in front of them. Things are black or white, never gray, which is why politics are so messy.

Also, along with the illegal workers, his club imports workers legally: From 2013 to 2015, Mar-a-Lago was approved to hire 246 foreign workers by the U.S. Department of Labor with H-2B visas, which allow U.S. employers to temporarily import foreign workers to fill non-agricultural jobs that can't be filled with Americans. See, not black and white, but gray.

 

[phrodeau]

Ah, that's why he wants a wall. To keep the cheap labor force from leaving the country.

 

[someoneyouknow]

That tells you a lot about Trump.

He's no racist.
He wants immigrants in our country.
He's compassionate and can recognize the value in people who work hard.
It also tells you that if he wants the borders closed, then its not because of the people that can be hired, but because of the people that CAN'T be hired and bring nothing to America except violence.

There is a problem that needs fixing, and that's what he wants fixed before the doors are opened.

Too many people see what they want to see when they look at Trump. They can't DEDUCE the evidence in front of them. Things are black or white, never gray, which is why politics are so messy.

Also, along with the illegal workers, his club imports workers legally: From 2013 to 2015, Mar-a-Lago was approved to hire 246 foreign workers by the U.S. Department of Labor with H-2B visas, which allow U.S. employers to temporarily import foreign workers to fill non-agricultural jobs that can't be filled with Americans. See, not black and white, but gray.

You fail, miserably, at reading comprehension. First, you completely ignore the fact he's hiring illegals, the very people he whines are causing crimes in this country.

Second, you also conveniently omit the fact he has said the reason he hires foreigners (NOTE: he hires people mainly from Eastern Europe) is because he has literally said Americans want full time jobs. In other words, instead of employing Americans, as he claims businesses should be doing, he hires foreigners because Americans want those same jobs.

Third, you also leave out he continues to hire foreigners, not Americans, at his soon-to-be failed winery. Why you might ask? Because he can get them more cheaply than American workers.

Which raises the question: if the con artist is set on MAGA, why isn't he hiring Americans? Why is he so dead set against hiring any American for any of his properties and instead deliberately goes out of his way to hire foreigners? Wouldn't hiring Americans be MAGA?

Also, if he wants to bring manufacturing back to this country, why are all his name brand products made in China and Mexico, not the U.S.?

 

[Bill_Cosplay]

You fail, miserably, at reading comprehension. First, you completely ignore the fact he's hiring illegals, the very people he whines are causing crimes in this country.

Second, you also conveniently omit the fact he has said the reason he hires foreigners (NOTE: he hires people mainly from Eastern Europe) is because he has literally said Americans want full time jobs. In other words, instead of employing Americans, as he claims businesses should be doing, he hires foreigners because Americans want those same jobs.

Third, you also leave out he continues to hire foreigners, not Americans, at his soon-to-be failed winery. Why you might ask? Because he can get them more cheaply than American workers.

Which raises the question: if the con artist is set on MAGA, why isn't he hiring Americans? Why is he so dead set against hiring any American for any of his properties and instead deliberately goes out of his way to hire foreigners? Wouldn't hiring Americans be MAGA?

Also, if he wants to bring manufacturing back to this country, why are all his name brand products made in China and Mexico, not the U.S.?

I fail?

I counter point you and insult me?

Take a business class and you'll answer your own questions.

I'll give you an easy one: Not every position that a company has to fill is full-time compatible. Full-time would cost too much.

And I guess you didn't read this in my response: It also tells you that if he wants the borders closed, then its not because of the people that can be hired, but because of the people that CAN'T be hired and bring nothing to America except violence.

Your blind hatred lets you gloss over what I said. Sick.

 

[KentuckyDom1971]

So do Trump’s opponents want undocumented immigrants working or not working? If he is wrong for hiring or a hero?

 

[someoneyouknow]

I fail?

I counter point you and insult me?

Take a business class and you'll answer your own questions.

I'll give you an easy one: Not every position that a company has to fill is full-time compatible. Full-time would cost too much.

No, you didn't counter anything. You deflected. You start by saying the con artist isn't a racist, which had nothing to do with hiring illegals.

Nor did his so-called compassion (he has none) or his desire for work ethic come into the equation. Again, a deflection.

Still further, you mentioned about him claiming those illegals entering the country bring violence. It is true some are criminals, but to claim, as you did, the reason they can't be hired is because they bring nothing or bring crime is fallacious reasoning. There are literally millions of illegals who work every single day in this country who have never committed a crime other than being here illegally. The are employed at the hotels you stay at, pick the vegetables and fruits you eat, carve up the chickens and pigs you eat for your meals (probably the cattle too), build our homes, and so on.

Yet, despite the overwhelming evidence showing an insignificant portion of the illegal population commits crime, that is what you focused on, trying to use the same argument as the con artist. If illegals committed that many crimes they would have been removed long ago. Instead, employers keep hiring them, just as the con artist does.

Finally, you get to the cruxt of the matter. It is cheaper to hire foreigners, illegals or not, than it is Americans. In other words, for all his bloviating about MAGA, the con artist is more worried about keeping costs down than he is about getting Americans back to work. The very opposite of what he claims to want.

Try again.

 

[someoneyouknow]

So do Trump’s opponents want undocumented immigrants working or not working? If he is wrong for hiring or a hero?

They're pointing out his hypocrisy. If he's so against illegals, he wouldn't be hiring them, let alone bragging about hiring them.

Nor would he have hidden those illegals workers from the Secret Service when he visited his failing New Jersey golf course:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/03/us/trump-golf-club-illegal-immigrant-employee.html

https://www.nj.com/news/2019/01/trumps-nj-golf-club-shielded-undocumented-immigrants-from-secret-service-report-says.html

 

[Bill_Cosplay]

No, you didn't counter anything. You deflected. You start by saying the con artist isn't a racist, which had nothing to do with hiring illegals.

Nor did his so-called compassion (he has none) or his desire for work ethic come into the equation. Again, a deflection.

Still further, you mentioned about him claiming those illegals entering the country bring violence. It is true some are criminals, but to claim, as you did, the reason they can't be hired is because they bring nothing or bring crime is fallacious reasoning. There are literally millions of illegals who work every single day in this country who have never committed a crime other than being here illegally. The are employed at the hotels you stay at, pick the vegetables and fruits you eat, carve up the chickens and pigs you eat for your meals (probably the cattle too), build our homes, and so on.

Yet, despite the overwhelming evidence showing an insignificant portion of the illegal population commits crime, that is what you focused on, trying to use the same argument as the con artist. If illegals committed that many crimes they would have been removed long ago. Instead, employers keep hiring them, just as the con artist does.

Finally, you get to the cruxt of the matter. It is cheaper to hire foreigners, illegals or not, than it is Americans. In other words, for all his bloviating about MAGA, the con artist is more worried about keeping costs down than he is about getting Americans back to work. The very opposite of what he claims to want.

Try again.

There is no deflection in my statement. I never said he didn't do what you said in your thread.

I made observations that people like you refuse to acknowledge because you have your torches and pitchforks out. You want to hear one answer and that is: Down with Trump! .... You don't want to put any thought into anything that he does. You thought you made a point, but you opened a doorway into seeing the whole side of a man you hate. You fucked up.

My first point has answered everything you have said.

Deal with it, instead of asking me to answer it again until you get the answers you want to hear. It's not going to happen.

 

[Bill_Cosplay]

They're pointing out his hypocrisy. If he's so against illegals, he wouldn't be hiring them, let alone bragging about hiring them.

For the last time, since I'm a nice guy:
It also tells you that if he wants the borders closed, then its not because of the people that can be hired, but because of the people that CAN'T be hired and bring nothing to America except violence.

 

[KeithD]

For the last time, since I'm a nice guy:
It also tells you that if he wants the borders closed, then its not because of the people that can be hired, but because of the people that CAN'T be hired and bring nothing to America except violence.

Obviously not for the last time as thickheaded as you are, but Trump lies about the danger. And you are a chump for sucking up his lies.

 

[Bill_Cosplay]

Obviously not for the last time as thickheaded as you are, but Trump lies about the danger. And you are a chump for sucking up his lies.

You're still following me around after putting me on ignore, how cute. Just admit you like reading what I write.

Stalker.

 

[KeithD]

You're still following me around after putting me on ignore, how cute. Just admit you like reading what I write.

Stalker.

Bullshit. I rarely see your posts or post to them. Just more of your lying. Posting to a erotica story site because you don't have the courage to post somewhere more relevant. Just a parasitic drone here with not quite half a brain.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

That tells you a lot about Trump.

He's no racist.
He wants immigrants in our country.
He's compassionate and can recognize the value in people who work hard.
It also tells you that if he wants the borders closed, then its not because of the people that can be hired, but because of the people that CAN'T be hired and bring nothing to America except violence.

There is a problem that needs fixing, and that's what he wants fixed before the doors are opened.

Too many people see what they want to see when they look at Trump. They can't DEDUCE the evidence in front of them. Things are black or white, never gray, which is why politics are so messy.

Also, along with the illegal workers, his club imports workers legally: From 2013 to 2015, Mar-a-Lago was approved to hire 246 foreign workers by the U.S. Department of Labor with H-2B visas, which allow U.S. employers to temporarily import foreign workers to fill non-agricultural jobs that can't be filled with Americans. See, not black and white, but gray.

You are fucking delusional

 

[Bill_Cosplay]

Bullshit. I rarely see your posts or post to them. Just more of your lying.

One of the first things you said to me was: You go in iggy, trumpet.

You, KeithD (and aliases) are not even man enough to admit what you've said. Pathetic.

You're a sad boy who tries to project their shitty personality onto others.

What's truly telling about your bottom feeding personality is that you've invented this extraordinary backstory for yourself and yet you behave like a wailing baby throwing a temper tantrum because you've pooped your diapers. I feel sorry for you.

Posting to a erotica story site because you don't have the courage to post somewhere more relevant. Just a parasitic drone here with not quite half a brain.

That was one of the first things I've said to the crazed Democrats on here and you paraphrased it to throw back at me.

It's no surprise that you're unoriginal.


And since this place only goes back to 200 threads, It's harder than hell to find the post where you have claimed to put me on ignore.

But here: Post #23, #24, #25 ... of you following me around after putting me on ignore

There's something wrong with you, and it runs deep.

I'm going to do us both a favor. I'm going to put you on ignore. Because when I say something, I do it ... you could learn from that.


Here, Keith, since you can still see me, yours is post #20 (last changed on 12/20/18)
https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1491790


but here is out exchange:

Trump is president and you guys hate him. How small do you guys feel next to him? This is sad. I didn't vote him, didn't vote for Hillary either. I didn't like any of the choices, but to sit at your computer and get revenge in this manner ...

Trump is hated because he's always been a self-obsessed, sleazy, corrupt, totally amoral shyster mobster who has screwed everyone not named Donald Trump and can't open his mouth without lying. He was hated before the Russians ran him for president and he got the job despite losing the popular vote. It goes far further back than the presidency.

And we're not wild about dumb bunny Trumpsters like you either who are dumb as rocks and are enabling Trump's fleecing of America and Russia's undermining the nation's well-being and values.

Next to him--and you--I feel quite noble, thank you very much, you slimy fucker.

Any other stupid questions?

Wow. Lol. I know children who debate like you.

You were stupid enough to ask.

And you continue with the insults. Do you think saying it over and over again makes it so? I'm going to pat you on the head now and send you on your way. Have fun being you.

Like most stupid Trumpettes, you go on ignore. Not worth the read. You've had more than enough time and of Trump's behavior to wake up and get your head on straight.

 

[KeithD]

You are fucking delusional

Yep, you got it. Probably just playing troll.

 

[Bill_Cosplay]

You are fucking delusional

https://i.imgur.com/X87ww3a.jpg

I guess we don't see eye to eye on this.