The Isolated Blurt Thread XVII : Squish Me Like You Mean It!

[pantalaimonlyra]

Oh my god that's awful. Don't listen to him....

I'm just gathering information so I appreciate your input as well. I'm not the kind of person who jumps into something without examining it at a few different angles first.

 

[butters]

Oh fuck, a furniture truck just pulled up; what now?

just found this

You poor bastard......

not at all, everything was in hand - he didn't have to lift a finger

..
It's not a chair, it's too soft and too tall but an interesting height, then there was the tip I was stuck with

a very interesting height. worked for me

and there's nowt like christening a brand new mattress - slept so well!

 

[butters]

pretttttttttty sure there'll be poopies in the morning. mind you, i think she's convinced herself she's a chicken, but at least she's not trying to roost!

 

[CandiCame]

I'm just gathering information so I appreciate your input as well. I'm not the kind of person who jumps into something without examining it at a few different angles first.

I mean, my bar for danger is really high. I do a lot of risky shit and even I know this shit'll kill you. I've worked with specialists in this field because I'm a caregiver for an anorexic. I really don't want to go into it in public, but I'm not being hyperbolic.

I used to take random drugs that were given to me at parties without knowing what they were. Like that's how high my bar for "is this dangerous" is. I have LITERALLY jumped off a cliff because everyone else was doing it. It takes a LOT for me to consider something dangerous. I'm smoking a cigarette RIGHT NOW.

And even I, the biggest fucking idiot in the world, knows not to go into ketosis. This is not something to fuck around with. This is more dangerous than that shit by a LOT. Your body will eat your heart and you will die.

Once it starts metabolizing itself it doesn't start at lipids, it moves on to protein. The body wants to get it's energy from carbs. If it can't it starts breaking down muscles, and like I said, in as little as 3 days you could be in a coma. People die.

This is a "diet" designed to kill people, but almost dying gives you a high. Being in Ketosis makes you high, which is why people do it. Your body is on a life or death thing, and for a lot of people, the best part of living is almost dying.

I'm like actually legitimately worried about you. Anytime I hear that word it sets off alarm bells because it's one I've been trained to listen for. The process of your body eating itself in that way, not breaking down fat stores because of calorie deficiency, like a normal diet, but because of ketosis- you'll lose weight, because you are DYING. You are rotting from the inside, and like I said, you can smell it on your breath. Your kidneys are shutting down and not filtering the toxins and it comes out through your respiratory system. It's some terrifying shit.

 

[adrina]

This seems like a great time to mention pecan pie.

 

[CandiCame]

Also, not to be that guy, but if you're thinking about keto it has to be vanity. IT can't be health because Keto is the least healthy thing ever so like...

I don't... understand that? Like that's you in your avatar, right? If you lose weight I don't get how that would make you prettier. I know that's subjective but like... from the outside looking in, as someone who has proven that he really values shallow superficial appearance I don't... like it's not healthy and also you'll be skinny, but not even the kind of skinny where you're like, "Oh, I get that that's just a person with that body type".

You LOOK like you're dying once it starts working. You LOOK like someone who's kidneys are failing. You LOOK like a walking corpse.

As someone who is actively trying to hide half his face to prevent that gaunt ghoul appearance I don't understand why anyone would strive for it.

 

[Lorilei]

This seems like a great time to mention pecan pie.

That was kinda mean.

I like it.

 

[pantalaimonlyra]

I'm not even considering keto. I've just been reading up about the intermittent fasting.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Oh my god that's awful. Don't listen to him.

1 meal a day will slow your metabolism to a crawl

LOL.....tell that to the most ripped guy in the world who eats like 4500 calories a day but does it in a 1 hr sitting.

I don't think he has a metabolism problem.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/w0oBBC7dIwM/maxresdefault.jpg

Like that's some proanna shit. It means that you're dying. That's what that word means. It's literally a phrase used by anorexics to promote anorexia. I'm not joking. It pisses me off that "keto" diets are a thing. If you go to a hospital and you see "Ketosis" written on a chart, it means that you're near death.

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/85/85d911d310f6d22875ba78f21d26fbb15890723031cc3f6d0ca08529af38fb63.jpg

No....it means you're burning fat instead of sugar.

Ketosis is a normal metabolic process, something your body does to keep working. When it doesn't have enough carbohydrates from food for your cells to burn for energy, it burns fat instead. As part of this process, it makes ketones.

https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/type-1-diabetes-guide/what-is-ketosis#1


You can't lose body fat without going into a ketogeneic metabolic state. That's a biological fact.

Yes anorexics are in a persistent ketogeneic state, and they don't eat.....which is different than eating one giant meal a day or 2 big meals in a 4 hr period.

I might be a plant biologist but I study the shit out of fitness, and once again you don't know what you're talking about Candi. Do your homework bronado

 

[adrina]

That was kinda mean.

I like it.

It was a very good piece of pecan pie.

 

[CandiCame]

I'm not even considering keto. I've just been reading up about the intermittent fasting.

Oh. That's not super dangerous, it just makes you fat.

Any time you condense your calories, that is you don't have any for a long time and then you have any little bit, the body holds onto that shit because it assumes that you're in the middle of a famine.

I used to do that, not because I was on a diet but because I was broke as shit and would rather spend what little money I had on things other than food.

A lot of people around here do it because Jesus.

I can't imagine that would be a diet on account of how it makes you fat. Fasting slows your metabolism to a crawl. That's why you don't die from it.

Like... doctors prescribe that for weight gain level "it will make you fat". If you have a disease that makes excess calorie consumption impossible, like certain digestive issues, they tell you to do intermediate fasting with the same number of Kcal, because your metabolism slows to a crawl and you'll gain weight that way instead of if you'd spread the same Kcal over the week like a normal person.

Again, literally the only way to lose weight is to just eat what you want but less of it. Your body knows what it needs and will crave it. You just have to know what you really want. Craving chocolate? You need sugar. Eat an apple or someshit. Craving fried chicken? You need protein, eat some soup beans or whatever. Like just eat the healthy version of whatever it is that you want to eat.

I've been thin pretty much my whole life, except for a little bit in college where I did what would be considered "intermediate fasting" but was really like, "I'm poor so I'll eat what's put in front of me". But that really was just a "trying to get enough Kcal to get through the day". If I find myself getting too fat I just make those substitutions. And even then I never really got super big because I've never really been super sedentary because I've just not been able to do that. And you're not either, like you talk about exercising.

Idk that the fasting thing is unhealthy but you'll gain weight and also get cavities. Like if you've been reading up on it you'll find that out. People binge on sugar because your body runs on sugar, so...

And I'll tell you right now how bad it hurts for your teeth to rot out. Like I didn't get the weight gain as much but I sure as fuck got that.

Super worried I'll get a dry socket because even in the face of excruciating pain I can't put the fucking cigarettes down.

That's true for raw food, too. Rot your teeth right out.

 

[CandiCame]

It was a very good piece of pecan pie.

The liquid diet is killing me.

Edit: I might be extra bitchy about diets because I stay fucking hungry. This soup & smoothie thing is starving me.

 

[pink]

I've lost 50 lbs on low carb.

 

[CandiCame]

I've lost 50 lbs on low carb.

Enjoy your kidney failure.

 

[BotanyBoy]

This seems like a great time to mention pecan pie.

Bettus Pie.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/115/diabeetus.jpg

Oh. That's not super dangerous, it just makes you fat.

Any time you condense your calories, that is you don't have any for a long time and then you have any little bit, the body holds onto that shit because it assumes that you're in the middle of a famine.

What kind of insane shit.......where do you come up with any of this?

I used to do that, not because I was on a diet but because I was broke as shit and would rather spend what little money I had on things other than food.

So you were eating like shit......that's why you got fat, not because you were disciplined about when and what you eat every day.

Super worried I'll get a dry socket because even in the face of excruciating pain I can't put the fucking cigarettes down.

Yet you're dispensing health advice based on personal anecdotes.....can't even put the cancer sticks down.

The liquid diet is killing me.

Edit: I might be extra bitchy about diets because I stay fucking hungry. This soup & smoothie thing is starving me.

Even fucking better.......why don't you try eating a real balanced diet???

I only eat two meals a day and I don't starve at all, I'm not even loosing muscle mass because I eat 5,000 calories a day.

 

[adrina]

Again, literally the only way to lose weight is to just eat what you want but less of it. Your body knows what it needs and will crave it. You just have to know what you really want. Craving chocolate? You need sugar. Eat an apple or someshit. Craving fried chicken? You need protein, eat some soup beans or whatever. Like just eat the healthy version of whatever it is that you want to eat.

And exercise. Move. Get your heart up. Do weight bearing exercises. Regularly. And forever.

Super worried I'll get a dry socket because even in the face of excruciating pain I can't put the fucking cigarettes down.

That's true for raw food, too. Rot your teeth right out.

How much is your vanity worth? Point blank. That's the question. Are cigarettes worth your teeth? Seriously. They are hard on teeth and gums. Very hard. Take a long look in the mirror and realize cigarettes may well cause you your teeth. And take some of your pride with it.

I say that knowing that cigarettes, alcohol and sugar weren't worth my vanity and pride. Yeah sounds shallow. Doesn't bother me one bit to admit I chose my looks over my vices. And yes it was my looks that initially motivated me. You can't see cancer, you can't see emphysema or even a heart attack. But you look every day in the mirror. I couldn't stand the thought of not seeing my teeth.

Look at that pack of cigarettes and know the contents of it could very well end up making you look like the crackhead you fear.

I'm sorry to be so harsh. But... not really.

 

[adrina]

The liquid diet is killing me.

Edit: I might be extra bitchy about diets because I stay fucking hungry. This soup & smoothie thing is starving me.

Pfffft. Talk to me when you do it for two months. Yes, two months. It was a blast. Lots of drinkable soup. I haven't eaten jello in three years. I'm okay with that.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I've lost 50 lbs on low carb.

Kick ass pink...don't listen to Candi, he's clearly misinformed.

Enjoy your kidney failure.

Low carb =/=no carb.....and kidney failure only happens in no carb diets when you're failing to take en enough fat and oils to compensate.

 

[CandiCame]

I don't want to keep harping on this because obviously it's a button for me, and I'm not in a position to bitch at anyone else for their health decisions.

But I also can't stop myself, so I guess I'm just gonna log off Lit.

The only reason to ever go on a diet is if your doctor tells you to, like you're on a cardiovascular diet or a renal diet or liquid diet or any diet that has an actual medical name.

Other than that, for weight loss, just eat less and move more.

If you lose weight on some "diet" designed to trick your body into losing weight, you just gain it back when you start eating like a normal human person again. Like, that's all that happens. And you spend more money for the next fad diet. It's a pile of capitalist bullshit.

If it's not something a doctor put you on for your health, if it's just vanity, ask yourself, "Who profits from my body issues?"

If it's just you and you're willing to sacrifice your health for vanity, then go for it. You're an adult.

But if it's a group of people that you don't owe a goddamn thing, like some celebrity, or the ProAnna movement, or some dumbass on a message board, or especially some company that's going to make money selling you supplements and books and meal replacement shakes or ad revenue on youtube videos- then you don't owe them a goddamn thing.

If everyone woke up tomorrow and decided they were fine with how they looked a lot of places would go out of business. A lot of this shit is manufactured bullshit.

 

[CandiCame]

Pfffft. Talk to me when you do it for two months. Yes, two months. It was a blast. Lots of drinkable soup. I haven't eaten jello in three years. I'm okay with that.

I've done it for 4 months. The last time I had a dry socket.

Edit: Candi fun fact! Jello is a psychological trigger for me. Like in the real, actual sense of that term where your brain just shuts down and you go into a helpless animal brain rage and can't process shit for a little while until you come out of it.

 

[adrina]

I've done it for 4 months. The last time I had a dry socket.

Two months is hard enough. Four... well I'd have probably lost another dress size.

I'd invest in an immersion blender. They kick butt for creaming things up. You can find one for less than $15. Maybe Santa will bring you one.


ETA.... jello is evil and need not be discussed further.

 

[CandiCame]

And exercise. Move. Get your heart up. Do weight bearing exercises. Regularly. And forever.



How much is your vanity worth? Point blank. That's the question. Are cigarettes worth your teeth? Seriously. They are hard on teeth and gums. Very hard. Take a long look in the mirror and realize cigarettes may well cause you your teeth. And take some of your pride with it.

I say that knowing that cigarettes, alcohol and sugar weren't worth my vanity and pride. Yeah sounds shallow. Doesn't bother me one bit to admit I chose my looks over my vices. And yes it was my looks that initially motivated me. You can't see cancer, you can't see emphysema or even a heart attack. But you look every day in the mirror. I couldn't stand the thought of not seeing my teeth.

Look at that pack of cigarettes and know the contents of it could very well end up making you look like the crackhead you fear.

I'm sorry to be so harsh. But... not really.

No, like I legit get that. That'll be the thing that makes me quit, eventually. I've tried a lot. I gave up everything else.

They give you wrinkles, too.

To be fair, that's not what's wrong with my teeth, it's a genetic thing, but it's not helping. Like it's objectively making it worse.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The only reason to ever go on a diet is if your doctor tells you to, like you're on a cardiovascular diet or a renal diet or liquid diet or any diet that has an actual medical name.

Or you just want to be more disciplined about what goes in your face, how much and when so you can be healthier and not feel/look like shit.

Diet doesn't mean deprivation it means control.

If it's not something a doctor put you on for your health, if it's just vanity, ask yourself, "Who profits from my body issues?"

A diet change doesn't have to be prescribed by a doctor to be healthy.

Like cutting out simple sugars and soda pop....100% healthy choice....no Dr.Note needed for the health benefits.

You should log off now.

 

[CandiCame]

Two months is hard enough. Four... well I'd have probably lost another dress size.

I'd invest in an immersion blender. They kick butt for creaming things up. You can find one for less than $15. Maybe Santa will bring you one.


ETA.... jello is evil and need not be discussed further.

Omg in this very thread I was talking about how bad I wanted one of those things.

You were in the hospital as a kid too, weren't you? You get it. You get the jello/chicken broth shutting your brain down. Because there's a whole group of people who get why that's a thing.

 

[CandiCame]

I actually went through and read some of Bot's responses to me, because I guess I hate myself, and I just want to point out that if you take his advice over mine you're listening to someone who couldn't figure out, after I talked about being worried about getting a dry socket and the importance of following actually medically prescribed diets over bullshit you read on the internet- WHY I was on a liquid diet.

The dude tried to make fun of me for following doctor's orders.

So... consider your sources.