Is Trump mentally ill?

[Kirkrapine]

I strongly suspect he is, and getting worse. Even leaving aside his malignant narcissism, and his amorality and lack of empathy as symptoms of sociopathy, I cannot believe a healthy mind could lie the way he does, in a manner so utterly detached from reality. Either he actually believes his lies when he tells them, or he thinks he is powerful enough to thrust facts into the past -- insane either way.

Also, I've heard that WH insiders report he "sundowns" like an Alzheimer's patient.

 

[CandiCame]

Hey why is it that every time someone is an asshole a bunch of armchair psychologists come out of the woodwork to declare them crazy?

Being crazy doesn't make you an asshole. It's super possible that he's just an asshole. A neurotypical douchebag who was handed power he was woefully unprepared for who is now lashing out because it's a stressful as fuck job that he absolutely did not think he was gonna get.

 

[KeithD]

Yep. So are the Trumpettes on this board--or at least mentally and morally deficient.

 

[CandiCame]

Yep. So are the Trumpettes on this board--or at least mentally and morally deficient.

You should see them try to add. I got my damn mind blown last night over in that m-acronym thread.

 

[jaF0]

The word 'is' should be the second word in the title and the last item should be an exclamation point.

 

[rae121452]

"is the pope catholic" said in a groucho marx voice...

 

[Kirkrapine]

Hey why is it that every time someone is an asshole a bunch of armchair psychologists come out of the woodwork to declare them crazy?

In this case, because the stakes are so high, and a verdict of crazy would warrant invoking the 25th Amendment. We're not talking about a non-neurotypical person's right to be accepted as a fully autonomous adult by society; we are talking about the mental fitness of the holder of the most powerful office in the world to hold that office.

I only hope the generals have a pact to shoot him the moment he asks for the launch codes.

 

[Kirkrapine]

"is the pope catholic" said in a groucho marx voice...

Some say not, actually.

 

[Kirkrapine]

And some psychiatrists who have never examined Trump nevertheless feel obliged to publicly diagnose him as mentally ill despite the "Goldwater rule."

 

[adrina]

Yes.

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[Carnal_Flower]

I dont think he's psychotic. He knows very well when he's lying. He just thinks he's not beholden to normal rules of reality and can do whatever the f he wants.

His only value is "winning." Nothing else matters in the long run. He lies because he CAN. He doesn't lose support and no one challenges him except what he calls Fake News.

Im sure in some part of his so-called brain he's laughing and cheering at getting away with it. Can you believe this shit? Iow he does know he's selling a bill of goods so not totally off the reservation. Hes just a bully who uses lies to assert power.

He is crazy, but not because of his lies which are just a symptom.

Idk whats wrong with him exactly. Im sure he has severe phobias and OCD plus malignant narcissism. Grandiosity.

 

[Kirkrapine]

I dont think he's psychotic. He knows very well when he's lying. He just thinks he's not beholden to normal rules of reality and can do whatever the f he wants.

That would make him sociopathic --- not much preferable to psychotic.

 

[Kirkrapine]

. . . and OCD . . .

Well, I don't know about that -- his only compulsion appears to be wearing a suit and tie whenever he's not wearing golf clothes. Probably sleeps in one or the other.

BTW, check out Hollywood Personality Disorders -- it's a fun read.

 

[ryan8558]

And some psychiatrists who have never examined Trump nevertheless feel obliged to publicly diagnose him as mentally ill despite the "Goldwater rule."

or was it the golden shower rule?

 

[Kirkrapine]

or was it the golden shower rule?

I believe that story, but I don't think it means he has a water-sports fetish; he just wanted to see Obama's bed defiled. (I wonder if the DSM-V has a diagnostic name for someone who can never let go of a grudge.)

 

[ryan8558]

I believe that story, but I don't think it means he has a water-sports fetish; he just wanted to see Obama's bed defiled.

Obama has a bed in Moscow?

 

[CandiCame]

I dont think he's psychotic. He knows very well when he's lying. He just thinks he's not beholden to normal rules of reality and can do whatever the f he wants.

His only value is "winning." Nothing else matters in the long run. He lies because he CAN. He doesn't lose support and no one challenges him except what he calls Fake News.

Im sure in some part of his so-called brain he's laughing and cheering at getting away with it. Can you believe this shit? Iow he does know he's selling a bill of goods so not totally off the reservation. Hes just a bully who uses lies to assert power.

He is crazy, but not because of his lies which are just a symptom.

Idk whats wrong with him exactly. Im sure he has severe phobias and OCD plus malignant narcissism. Grandiosity.

I mean, again, he could JUST be an asshole. That's not crazy, it's just the kind of jackassery you expect from a spoiled bitch with too much money & power surrounded by yes men and a base that will refuse to strip that power no matter what he does.

Just a complete Jackass.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Obama has a bed in Moscow?

He once stayed in a hotel in Moscow. The story is that when Trump visited Moscow, he made sure he got the same room, and then called in the whores. And, we may hope, he or Putin also called in the videographer.

 

[Kirkrapine]

And now he's actually POTUS -- something even rich kids hardly dare dream of! The most powerful man in the world! How can we expect an ego like his to cope with that?! If he wasn't crazy when he took office, he's gotta be by now!

 

[CandiCame]

And now he's actually POTUS -- something even rich kids hardly dare dream of! The most powerful man in the world! How can we expect an ego like his to cope with that?!

Maybe eventually it'll grow so massive it'll implode into itself like a neutron star and it'll be on the tv.

 

[DMBFFF]

we are talking about the mental fitness of the holder of the most powerful office in the world to hold that office.

I'd say Putin and Xi are each more powerful than Trump.



The problem isn't if he's sane, a bit crazy—which I think—more a sociopath—I guess, or quite crazy.

The problem are the voters, and to an extent the Democratic Party.

While all this voter recount, 25th amendment, impeachment, etc, might be worth exploring, it's probably not going to be, if you will, the trump card.

First there is history. As I mentioned before in this forum, in the past +80 years, only 3 incumbents have lost elections—and even two of those were sort of flukes—Gerry Ford only had it for about 2 years and Papa Bush's vote was arguably split by some outsider billionaire who yammered on about NAFTA.

I predict Trump will win in 2020 and Democrats winning a house in 8 days is not a forgone conclusion because sometimes a party has to get their ass kicked a few times before they get the message.

Hillary was a bad choice—she was corrupt, played kid ball with the Egyptian coup leader, and reportedly said nothing about the Armenian Genocide lest we offend our Turkish ally. She rid her hubby's coattails by tolerating his infidelities and what is considered today sexual harassment.

It's sad to see how CNN has gone. Back in the late 1980s, they were frikin' awesome, now Trump can barely do anything without them shrilling about it.

This is not to endorse the other side, for they are even more full of shit, but FFS it's time for the Democrats to figure out what they are about. If it's about winning at all cost, then run with a Clintonista. If it's political correctness, particularly if they can't defend it against a few Republican intellectuals—and there are still a few—then I suppose Pence will win in 2024.

(check my post here: Why do they call them "survivors" of sexual assault when almost all live through it? for an example of shrillness.)

Of course, one can wait for Trump to bugger up the country enough that even a Pelosi would look good, but currently it ain't happening. Some of the the tax cuts might actually be beneficial, some of the old arguments for abortion have gone stale, and the gangstas and MS13 (or whatever TF they call themselves) aren't helping matters. Americans luv their guns. I'm increasingly thinking the NRA is less for gun rights and more a lobby for the gun industry. If my Chinese goddess gave every American a free M16 and 1000 rounds of ammo, the NRA might hate her for it.

People were fed up with Dubya in 2008, but they weren't with Reagan in 1988 when Papa Bush won. I'm sure a few Republicans still alive after they passed that two-term limit decades earlier might have been kicking themselves—which I believe was more for FDR and Truman—the Gipper probably would have won in 1992—maybe even 1996.

 

[silver gurl]

He is a narcissist for sure.

 

[KeithD]

The problem are the voters, and to an extent the Democratic Party.

What a load of crap. The premier problem is DonaldGrabEmbythePussy Trump. The voters are sheep, yes. You're full of shit on fingering the Democratic Party as part of the current problem. Wake up and smell the Republican un-American shit.

You've let yourself be brainwashed over the past two decades, and look where it's gotten us. Wake the fuck up.

 

[DMBFFF]

(for source and bigger versions)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Clinton_Trump_2000_06.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Clinton_Trump_2000_06.jpg

What a load of crap. The premier problem is DonaldGrabEmbythePussy Trump. The voters are sheep, yes. You're full of shit on fingering the Democratic Party as part of the current problem. Wake up and smell the Republican un-American shit.

In another thread:

Bernie Sanders isn't a member of the Democratic Party. Wasn't when he tried to steal the Democratic nomination, either.

I guess you don't think much of Bernie either.

Let me guess: you're one of those guys who blames Nadar for Dubya's win in 2000.



What do you think of Monika Lewinsky?

How about Julian Assange, Chelsea Manning, and Eric Snowden—I consider them heroes—even Ai Wei Wei praised, I think, Snowden.

Do you think that our Turkish ally murdered over a million Armenians about 100 years ago?

Would you described that the current government of Egypt got in place by a coup?

Back when North Korea was vulnerable after the fall of the USSR and the rise of China, wasn't it Clinton's policy that enable the Kim dynasty to continue and develop nukes? So Trump's kissing Un's ass—he's just being more overt about it.

Was it Clinton that conned Ukraine into giving up her nukes and leaving her vulnerable to an ascendant Putin?

What do you think of veganism? I think there might be something to it. In about a month, 10s of millions of Americans will be eating turkeys that have been marinating in their own shit for months in factory farms.

Are you okay with that? Me neither.

Okay, so what of fetal rights?
animal rights and fetal rights




I know, there's a context in these pics, but the optics don't look good:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-hijab-campaign-ad/


https://theflyingcameldotorg.wordpr...utral-when-dealing-with-israel/hijab-hillary/

https://theflyingcameldotorg.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/hijab-hillary.jpg?w=900

https://mikesamerica.********.com/2009/06/hillary-in-hijab-in-cairo.html
http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/mikesamerica/media/bWVkaWFJZDoxNzc5NDkxOQ==/?ref=

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/mikesamerica/mikesamerica2/untitlesdsdffd.jpg

https://twitter.com/fiverights/status/866287557058994177

https://pbs****img.com/media/DAWrCmJW0AEATrw.jpg




and our Cherokee person, Warren, didn't help matters with this sort of I-smoked-but-I-didn't-inhale bit about her ancestry: either defend the lie as Trump would, or fucking fess up, apologize, and ask some tribal leaders a prescribed atonement.

The Left (or increasing elements thereof) are increasingly sensitive about cultural appropriation.



another thread of mine:
Dems are going to win big in Nov: I’m sure of this as I am of Clinton winning in 2016
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1487101



Democrats got sandbagged in 2016, and if they don't shape up, it will happen again.

 

[KeithD]

I don't think much of your ability not to be brainwashed--to the extent of putting us where we are right now. Congrats, Mr. Sheep.

I was too disgusted to finish rolling through your post.