8 Dead, Several Others Shot At Pittsburgh Synagogue

[Luk]

It's always precious seeing a n00b expect honest answers from vette.

 

[Oblimo]

However, I'm not bothered by the heat in the kitchen, just by the fact that it's being made into a soapbox for everyone to push political bullshit. Eleven people had their lives taken today. Somehow, I seriously doubt that their friends and family are discussing politics on either side of the aisle right now.

Hi.

Maybe you should read my previous posts.

I don’t want to talk politics today. After all, anyone who tries is usually told by conservatives that the time of tragedy is not the time to get political.

But then then Trump said this morning if there has been armed guards in the temple (not on the grounds, in the temple) it wouldn’t have happened.

So, I got political.

 

[Oblimo]

Take a nap. You aren't equipped to debate the subject.

Are you equipped to answer the following questions:

1) How does anarchism align with the “right” side of the political spectrum?
2) What is the “right” side of the political spectrum? Who’s definition are you using?
3) If Democrats are the new Nazis, and Trump is the embodiment of anti-Nazi politics, why are people who call themselves Nazis siding with and voting for Trump?

Keep in mind, if you can, that I do not think Trump is a Nazi.

 

[OldJourno]

LMAO. Only vette would be so stupid to put Nazis on the extreme left wing.

Mr. von Skidmarck:
Hitler proclaimed, "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
Only you would be stupid enough not to put Nazis on the extreme left wing.

 

[Rightguide]

Mr. von Skidmarck:
Hitler proclaimed, "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
Only you would be stupid enough not to put Nazis on the extreme left wing.

Von_Buttmark is a brainwashed snowflake with no ability to speak outside his talking points.

 

[Oblimo]

Mr. von Skidmarck:
Hitler proclaimed, "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
Only you would be stupid enough not to put Nazis on the extreme left wing.

You blind DeSouza fans keep trotting out the same damn “argument” that has been debunked over and over and over.

The Nazi Party's "National Socialism" was socialism to the exact same degree East Germany's "German Democratic Republic" was a democracy.

But for shits and giggles, let’s look at the honest-to-fuck National Socialist platform. Let me see you argue that the Democratic platform is just like it,

1. We demand the unification of all Germans in the Greater Germany on the basis of the right of self-determination of peoples.

2. We demand equality of rights for the German people in respect to the other nations; abrogation of the peace treaties of Versailles and St. Germain.

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the sustenance of our people, and colonization for our surplus population.

4. Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no Jew can be a member of the race.

5. Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest, and must be under the authority of legislation for foreigners.

6. The right to determine matters concerning administration and law belongs only to the citizen. Therefore we demand that every public office, of any sort whatsoever, whether in the Reich, the county or municipality, be filled only by citizens. We combat the corrupting parliamentary economy, office-holding only according to party inclinations without consideration of character or abilities.

7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.

8. Any further immigration of non-citizens is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who have immigrated to Germany since the 2 August 1914, be forced immediately to leave the Reich.

9. All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.

10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all Consequently we demand:

11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of rent-slavery.

12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, Schieber and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.

19. We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.

20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbuergerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.

21. The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.

22. We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.

23. We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In order to enable the provision of a German press, we demand, that: a. All writers and employees of the newspapers appearing in the German language be members of the race: b. Non-German newspapers be required to have the express permission of the State to be published. They may not be printed in the German language: c. Non-Germans are forbidden by law any financial interest in German publications, or any influence on them, and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-German concerned. Publications which are counter to the general good are to be forbidden. We demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which exert a destructive influence on our national life, and the closure of organizations opposing the above made demands.

24. We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race. The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our nation can only succeed from within on the framework: common utility precedes individual utility.

25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.

Let me guess, you want to point to 17, as if the Democrats are proposing land reassignment. Or are you going to be ignorant enough to suggest that public schooling is leftist socialism that the Democrats want, especially the way it was implemented in Nazi Germany. Anyway, let me provide you with a quote:

Regarding the false interpretations of Point 17 of the program of the NSDAP on the part of our opponents, the following definition is necessary:

"Since the NSDAP stands on the platform of private ownership it happens that the passage" gratuitous expropriation concerns only the creation of legal opportunities to expropriate if necessary, land which has been illegally acquired or is not administered from the view-point of the national welfare. This is directed primarily against the Jewish land-speculation companies.

You realize who wrote that, right?

Or will you be ignorant enough to decry Point 7?

 

[Ann_Tagonist]

Maybe you are confusing anarchists with people that just hate Jews.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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[von_Bismarck]

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You both don't really expect me to waste my time explaining that Nazism was/is a right-wing ideology, do you? Nazi Germany was leftist in the same way North Korea is democratic. Hint: authoritarianism can be found across the left-right political spectrum, and totalitarians also enjoyed controlling the economy. In any case, Nazism is considered a far right ideology, as a matter of fact.

 

[Kirkrapine]

There was, once, a faction of the Nazi Party that took the "socialist" part of National Socialism seriously, and demanded class war, social revolution, and a struggle against capitalism; but they were purged in the Night of Long Knives, and never heard of again. Hitler decided the support of Germany's capitalists was more important.

 

[OldJourno]

There was, once, a faction of the Nazi Party that took the "socialist" part of National Socialism seriously, and demanded class war, social revolution, and a struggle against capitalism; but they were purged in the Night of Long Knives, and never heard of again. Hitler decided the support of Germany's capitalists was more important.

Support as in "do as I say or you'll be hanging from meat hooks."

 

[Kirkrapine]

Maybe you are confusing anarchists with people that just hate Jews.

No one does. Few anarchists have ever been antisemites.

 

[Kirkrapine]

On the far right is no government or anarchy on the far left there is total government or Communism,Nazism, Socialism, Fascism.

Nazism, Socialism, Communism, and Fascism, all have one thing in common, totalitarianism.

The difference -- and it does matter -- is what might be called Enlightenment/Rationality (Commies) v. Romanticism/Irrationalism (Nazis). See the Pournelle Chart.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Support as in "do as I say or you'll be hanging from meat hooks."

No -- Hitler could say that, but the capitalists couldn't; all he feared was the loss of their political backing.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Yet another mass shooting in America.

 

[Ann_Tagonist]

Sorry the shooter didn' meet the correct political demographics. Rory will be so dissapointed.

 

[IG_88]

So Jesus does it and it becomes one of the most popular stories in human history.
Crazy white dude in Pittsburgh does it and it's a tragedy.

Racism!!

 

[phrodeau]

So Jesus does it and it becomes one of the most popular stories in human history.
Crazy white dude in Pittsburgh does it and it's a tragedy.

Racism!!

Jesus was a Muslim sympathizer, you know.

 

[Rightguide]

You blind DeSouza fans keep trotting out the same damn “argument” that has been debunked over and over and over.

The Nazi Party's "National Socialism" was socialism to the exact same degree East Germany's "German Democratic Republic" was a democracy.

For the record Dinesh DeSouza knows more about American history than you ever will. Hitler's socialism was real. He controlled the means of production through regulation and policy. Here's a little history for you:

"The Nazis granted millions of marks in credits to private businesses.[60] Many businessmen had friendly relations to the Nazis,[56] most notably with Heinrich Himmler and his Freundeskreis der Wirtschaft[61] Hitler’s administration decreed an October 1937 policy that “dissolved all corporations with a capital under $40,000 and forbade the establishment of new ones with a capital less than $200,000,” which swiftly effected the collapse of one fifth of all small corporations.[62] On July 15, 1933 a law was enacted that imposed compulsory membership in cartels, while by 1934 the Third Reich had mandated a reorganization of all companies and trade associations and formed an alliance with the Nazi regime.[63] Nonetheless, the Nazi regime was able to close most of Germany’s stock exchanges, reducing them “from twenty-one to nine in 1935,” and “limited the distributed of dividends to 6 percent.”[64] By 1936 Germany decreed laws to completely block foreign stock trades by citizens.[65] These moves showed signs of Antisemitism and a move towards a war economy, with the belief that the stock market was being operated by Jews."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany

The above is but a small bit of the "totalitarianism" that was the German National Socialist government's control over their economy, the main characteristic that unites Socialism, Communism, Fascism, and the policies of today's Democrat Party. The only difference being the degree of the application of force in securing their policy goals.

The Pittsburgh shooter claimed to be a Nazi, but there is little difference between him and the militant arm of the Democrat party of old, the KKK, who roamed the South murdering Jews and Catholics in years past.

 

[schism666]

The Pittsburgh shooter claimed to be a Nazi, but there is little difference between him and the militant arm of the Democrat party of old, the KKK, who roamed the South murdering Jews and Catholics in years past.

as soon as you do this, you ruin any credibility that the rest of your post may have had. i suggest learning to temper your hate and stick to the facts.

 

[Rightguide]

as soon as you do this, you ruin any credibility that the rest of your post may have had. i suggest learning to temper your hate and stick to the facts.

Show me where I erred in the facts.

 

[BBX50]

The DUMZ boo GOD, Jerusalem

They allow Farakhan to campaign with them and DONT denounce him

They allow L Sarsour an anti semite to be a PROG and DUMOH leader
https://www.google.com/search?q=l+s...rome..69i57.8655j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


They are SOLEY RESPONSIBLE for the KILLINGS, they and fellow JEWS

They tolerate shit like this

MN MUSLIM Democrat State Rep Running For US CONGRESS: “May Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel”

https://100percentfedup.com/mn-musl...-and-help-them-see-the-evil-doings-of-israel/

 

[von_Bismarck]

To Rightguide, the political left-right spectrum is identical to the collectivist-individualist spectrum.

 

[schism666]

1. For the record Dinesh DeSouza knows more about American history than you ever will.

2. but there is little difference between him and the militant arm of the Democrat party of old, the KKK, who roamed the South murdering Jews and Catholics in years past.

1. you can't possibly know that = lie
2. all of it.

Show me where I erred in the facts.

go back to bed and dream of reaming liberal assholes and i don't mean figuratively.

 

[schism666]

To Rightguide, the political left-right spectrum is identical to the collectivist-individualist spectrum.

sounds like hisrapey and botnay.