Kreepy Kavanaugh

[BBX50]

Sorry, I tend to believe her.

why?

did she provide YOU or anyone with any proof?

 

[Oblimo]

SHE has said that the totality of her memory is in the totality of her statement. She has been to therapy, she has talked to lawyers, she has been interviewed by a career sex-crimes prosecutor with a bias towards believing victims (as she should)

You don’t know all that a MD state investigator would ask.

You don’t know all that a MD investigator would do to, to coin a phrase, “corroborate” her story.

You are worse than any pundit on MSNBC or FOX, prognosticating based on what the media tells you.

Is she going to magically remember better in a week? A month? Another year?

You would be surprised what being asked the right questions can reveal. Not “you” as in the general person, but “you” as in Que, as you seem to be clueless as fuck on this topic.

We know what we are ever going to know about what she thinks she remembers.

Time will tell. Not you.

 

[BBX50]

ALGO off the hook, Sen L Graham doesnt believe the 2 men

 

[Oblimo]

This thread is now up to 67 pages, and nobody (least of all Que) has yet suggested a single good reason to doubt Ford's story or believe Kavanaugh's.

I’d wager those posters who know better know how prematue it is to do.

 

[BBX50]

just a reminder

her MOTHER

her FATHER

her two SIBLINGS


didnt

sign the

letter of

support

 

[Que]

Polygraph the entire lot of them

Not a horrible idea. More likely than not all of them can pass if you ask the question in light of what they actually remember.

Ford would fail if you polygraphed some of her responses today. There's probably going to be something and Kavenaugh's testimony that would fail, too. Something where he shooting the truth because it makes him look bad or something like that. In her case she's going to fail when asked how certain she is because there's no way that she's actually a certain as she claims to be. It is human nature to doubt your memories and quite reasonable to don't memories that involve trauma. That doesn't mean that memories are wrong but for her to say she has a hundred percent certainty is not something that she would pass the Box on.

It would be interesting to find out if the Senate is employing voice stress analyzers as we speak.

They are less reliable than an actual polygraph, not so much for technical reasons as because half the point of wiring you up in the way that they do is because it's supposed to make you nervous about lying. Which enhances your reactions to lying. Lying without the fear of consequences is a lot easier.

 

[BBX50]

Fords GO FUND E page at $345,000

THATS WHAT SHE GETS

 

[Que]

You don’t know all that a MD state investigator would ask.

You don’t know all that a MD investigator would do to, to coin a phrase, “corroborate” her story.

You are worse than any pundit on MSNBC or FOX, prognosticating based on what the media tells you.



You would be surprised what being asked the right questions can reveal. Not “you” as in the general person, but “you” as in Que, as you seem to be clueless as fuck on this topic.



Time will tell. Not you.

She just got asked by a woman with DECADES of experience doing so.

You have no idea how memory works.

 

[Aglaopheme]

He looks so very judicial.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I don’t think pompous and angry is a good strategy for Kavanaugh, but I guess that is what he is going to go with.

Trump wrote/influenced that part of the opening. It was the same language he has been using all week.

My favorite part so far are the crocodile tears manufactured on demand recollecting his daughters prayers for Dr. Ford.

 

[KeithD]

I’d wager those posters who know better know how prematue it is to do.

I don't look at it in terms of believing her story or his. I look at it in terms of what an independent investigation of her story (and of the others that pop up) reveals--not a partisan claim of an "investigation" by only one side of the issue whose chief counsel flips out a "we're going to confirm him" tweet. One side pushes for an independent investigation and other side rejects an independent investigation beyond reasonableness to have one. So, yes, that colors who I believe--not their stories, the results of an independent investigation that only one side blocks and will not support. (I'm also biased by Kavanaugh having been shown to lie in his earlier confirmation hearings, so I'm not prone to giving him the benefit of the doubt on anything he says. Ford has the luxury on that of having no previous track record on record. Maybe an independent investigation would show she has a "make it up" history too. But one side has blocked an independent investigation.)

 

[Que]

This thread is now up to 67 pages, and nobody (least of all Que) has yet suggested a single good reason to doubt Ford's story or believe Kavanaugh's.

Have you asked me?

Kavenaugh's life corroborates his denial. His ex-girlfriends corroborate his denial. His dorm-mates in college corroborate his denial. The people allegedly at the alleged party corroborate his denial.

Ford's named witnesses refute her memory. Her therapist's notes refute her memory of what she told the therapist just six years ago.

What have you got, other than you need her memory to be accurate?

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Dear Lord I hope that's not true.

After watching Dr. Blasey Ford I can't stomach looking at Kavanaugh.

Trump wrote/influenced that part of the opening. It was the same language he has been using all week.

My favorite part so far are the crocodile tears manufactured on demand recollecting his daughters prayers for Dr. Ford.

 

[Que]

He looks so very judicial.

How about Clarence Thomas?

Judicial, or no?

 

[BBX50]

Hmmmmmmmmm

RALPH BLASEY III (CHRISTINE’S BROTHER) WORKED FOR BAKER & HOSTETLER LLP (FIRM MADE PAYMENTS TO FUSION GPS)


https://www.pacificpundit.com/2018/...stetler-llp-firm-made-payments-to-fusion-gps/

 

[von_Bismarck]

Have you asked me?

Kavenaugh's life corroborates his denial. His ex-girlfriends corroborate his denial. His dorm-mates in college corroborate his denial. The people allegedly at the alleged party corroborate his denial.

Ford's named witnesses refute her memory. Her therapist's notes refute her memory of what she told the therapist just six years ago.

What have you got, other than you need her memory to be accurate?

Lol what the fuck.

Also: Damn. Kavanaugh isn't nearly as sympathetic as Ford.

 

[BBX50]

Kavanaugh says he would participate in an FBI investigation if the committee pursues one and tells Sen. Dianne Feinstein: "My family has been destroyed by this, senator. Destroyed" https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/b...r-ford-sexual-assault-allegations-2018-09-27/ …

 

[KeithD]

You've got guilt by association. The guy he ran with is a sleazebag who wrote a book (including referencing Kavanaugh) about being a sleazebag. Oops, they didn't know that anyone would actually ever look.

But more important, you have the refusal of an independent investigation of it all (including other allegations). You don't normally do that as an innocent lamb. Chances are good the Republicans are doing it with an eye on the clock and, initially, a guarantee of the votes need in hand. It's a risk. We'll see whether they win in this dimension (controlling the trend on the Supreme Court for up to forty years) and whether they can count of the American electorate being shortsighted at the polls and with their personal morality (which is a real possibility).

Either way they are scumbags for not having a full, independent investigation before going to judgment. It isn't Kavanaugh they are concerned for.

 

[Wrong Element]

This thread is now up to 67 pages, and nobody (least of all Que) has yet suggested a single good reason to doubt Ford's story or believe Kavanaugh's.

Gosh, I don't know. Believe the woman with nothing to gain, or the man with everything to lose (except his current, and really really good, job). It's a tough call.


Kind of easy to see him as a mean drunk. Sober, he's scarcely more coherent than busybody.

 

[BBX50]

(this is a paraphrase)
Feinstein: Why didn't you want and FBI investigation?
Kavanaugh: Do it. Fucking do it. I'm all on on this. I wanted it the first day!
Feinstein: But... The FBI isn't interviewing you right now.
Kavanaugh: Ask me anything!
Feinstein: But I don't want to.

 

[BBX50]

Gosh, I don't know. Believe the woman with nothing to gain, or the man with everything to lose (except his current, and really really good, job). It's a tough call.


Kind of easy to see him as a mean drunk. Sober, he's scarcely more coherent than busybody.

her GO FUND ME page is $350K and growing

 

[Kirkrapine]

Polygraph the entire lot of them

Polygraphs are pseudoscience.

 

[KeithD]

Which should tell you something in terms of public support.

But of course it just as that doesn't serve your agenda.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

About as informed as your comments on "major corporations."

And untrue.

Kavanaugh's dorm-mate does NOT corroborate his denial. His dorm-mate (who as he met him in college could not actually say one way or the other since this occurred in HIGH SCHOOL) said he was a mean, belligerent drunk and that he believes Dr. Ford.

What ex-girlfriends? The only ex-gf to come forward is Mark Judge's, who said Judge is lying his ass off.

No one at the party has supported his denial except Mark Judge, co-rapist and hardly a reliable source.

Blasey Ford has sworn affadavits from four people who say she told them about this years ago. She has tons of friends signing letters in support of her. Again, the only "named" witness to refute her memory is Mark Judge. Her therapist's notes are wrong in stating how many boys she said tried to rape her. Ford addressed this as simply a mis-statement of what she said. There were four boys at the party, not four who attacked her. The therapist got that wrong--but supports her sworn testimony that she told the therapist about this years ago.

Have you asked me?

Kavenaugh's life corroborates his denial. His ex-girlfriends corroborate his denial. His dorm-mates in college corroborate his denial. The people allegedly at the alleged party corroborate his denial.

Ford's named witnesses refute her memory. Her therapist's notes refute her memory of what she told the therapist just six years ago.

What have you got, other than you need her memory to be accurate?

 

[KeithD]

Polygraphs are pseudoscience.

Yep, having gone through them periodically for thirty years (and having walked out of one when it got ridiculous on the knowledge of the polygrapher), I fully understand that it only gauges whether the question ups your nervous response level, which can come from all sorts of reasons and individual physical response other than lying.