Kreepy Kavanaugh

[BBX50]

well, this wasnt cleared with ALGO

Kavanaugh seems furious. Says his family and his name “have been totally and permanently destroyed.”

 

[silver gurl]

I don’t think pompous and angry is a good strategy for Kavanaugh, but I guess that is what he is going to go with.

Good. I hope he shows his true colors.

 

[silver gurl]

well, this wasnt cleared with ALGO

Kavanaugh seems furious. Says his family and his name “have been totally and permanently destroyed.”

How? He is still in the game.

 

[BBX50]

I was listening to talk radio today. A very high percentage of women, will either not ever discuss their assault or will wait many years to talk about it.

So unless you are a doctor of psychiatry and work with women, I strongly suggest not to call her a liar. You are in no position to say so.

something MAY have happened to her.....but she has NOT provided any proof and the proof she has attempted have said its not true

so unless you believe her just cause you believe women....there is no reason to believe

 

[silver gurl]

something MAY have happened to her.....but she has NOT provided any proof and the proof she has attempted have said its not true

so unless you believe her just cause you believe women....there is no reason to believe

Sorry, I tend to believe her.

 

[BBX50]

"You have replaced advice and consent with search and destroy."
#Kavanaugh

 

[BBX50]

Sorry, I tend to believe her.

why?

did she provide YOU or anyone with any proof?

 

[BBX50]

alternate timeline: "He seems so flat, not at all like an innocent man burning with anger at these charges."

 

[silver gurl]

why?

did she provide YOU or anyone with any proof?

I have been touched before. Groped. I had no proof. So I am liar?

 

[Que]

How? He is still in the game.

Ask Clarence Thomas how that worked out and when his reputation was returned to him.

I've been reading quite a bit about him lately because of course it's in the news. I like most people assumed that for the most part it was found that yeah he probably said those things but what are you going to do.

The FBI looked into it hard because we're talking about two actual federal employees and there may have been violations of civil rights of Anita Hill.

What they found was that people who knew only Anita Hill believed her and people that only knew Clarence Thomas believed him. Much like what we have here.

What is highly interesting though is very consistently is that people who saw Thomas and Hill interact together sided with Thomas.

The most sensitive take on that that I've read recently that is both the benefit of hindsight as well as what we are coming as a society to evolve towards partially because of that incident as well as the whole me-too movement is it more likely than not Anita Hill actually did find some of his statements and approaches uncomfortable but chose not to communicate any of that to him verbally non-verbally or any other way and in fact in couraged it because she benefited from his mentorship his friendship and his associations.

Granted a woman should not have to feel that she should just swallow it when something is uncomfortable for her and perhaps we're evolving towards that day but she benefited from the relationship and she seemingly gave him every reason to assume that whatever their relationship was that it was enjoyed and consensual. No part of that is his fault.

I doubt that there is a man in America who hasn't at some point had some sort of conversation that out of context would have looked inappropriate but was fun and interesting for all involved at the time.

 

[BBX50]

I have been touched before. Groped. I had no proof. So I am liar?

but if you said persons x and y and z were there and could verify


and x and y and z said NOT TRUE


then YES!


When I will grope you, you can be certain no one will be around...I IZ SMART

 

[BBX50]

What they found was that people who knew only Anita Hill believed her and people that only knew Clarence Thomas believed him. Much like what we have here.

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this isnt true

here we have a calendar that shows he wasnt there

we have 3 people who SHE says would bac her up, say its not true

we have 2 men who now claim it was THEM and not BK

 

[Oblimo]

Where did I say or imply I didn't want this tried in the court of public opinion? We are the public we're trying it right now. That's the only place this is going to be tried it's the only place it could be tried.

You talked so much about “due process rights,” I thought you didn’t want Kavanaugh tried in the court of public opinion. Now, you do?

Or are you saving Kavanaugh’ nomination should not be tried in the court of public opinion, but Ford’s allegations should?

What's known is known and it's all that's ever going to be known.

Wow. Nostradamus Ignoramus speaks.

I have no problem at all with beard being actually tried in the court of public opinion. What I do have a problem with is people completely disregarding what is known about the incident. What is known about her glasses. What is known about her memory and the actual science of what we know about memories and how fungible they are and still deciding that they simply want it to be true about Kavanaugh despite there being no evidence whatsoever that it is true.

So far, I am willing to say we only “know” one thing — and that is the content of her sworn testimony before the Senate committee. The Senate committee is the fact-finder here.

Soon we will “know” Kavanaugh’s sworn testimony in response.

Then the Senate committee will make a finding of fact, although I doubt they will make it public beyond their votes tomorrow.

Then it will be up to every citizen to decide if the Senate’s process was appropriate. And if it was, then that citizen should respect the Senate’s decision.

That is how a person who respects the rule of law should approach this clusterfuck.

I hope you will do the same, but I really doubt it.

 

[BBX50]

BK just says

and its true


"Not just uncorroborated, but refuted."


there is not one shred of evidence that says she is telling the truth

 

[BBX50]

If he WASN'T mad about being baselessly accused of being a GANG RAPIST that would make him a psycho. This is one of the only things a man is allowed to be righteously mad about. You would be, too.

 

[jaF0]

'Totally and permanently destroyed'

As should be all things 'Rump related.

 

[BBX50]

That Ford turned on her lifelong friend this way says perhaps more about Ford's credibility than anything else that happened today.

 

[Que]

You talked so much about “due process rights,” I thought you didn’t want Kavanaugh tried in the court of public opinion. Now, you do?

Or are you saving Kavanaugh’ nomination should not be tried in the court of public opinion, but Ford’s allegations should?



Wow. Nostradamus Ignoramus speaks.



So far, I am willing to say we only “know” one thing — and that is the content of her sworn testimony before the Senate committee. The Senate committee is the fact-finder here.

Soon we will “know” Kavanaugh’s sworn testimony in response.

Then the Senate committee will make a finding of fact, although I doubt they will make it public beyond their votes tomorrow.

Then it will be up to every citizen to decide if the Senate’s process was appropriate. And if it was, then that citizen should respect the Senate’s decision.

That is how a person who respects the rule of law should approach this clusterfuck.

I hope you will do the same, but I really doubt it.

SHE has said that the totality of her memory is in the totality of her statement. She has been to therapy, she has talked to lawyers, she has been interviewed by a career sex-crimes prosecutor with a bias towards believing victims (as she should)

Is she going to magically remember better in a week? A month? Another year?

If she does, how will that be received?

We know what we are ever going to know about what she thinks she remembers.

I'm surprised no one has tried to hypnotize her. 30 years ago that's what they would have done and they would have implanted much better much more believable to her memories. Details that she completely does not know now and will never know in the future could have been easily filled in.

 

[BBX50]

The same folks who mock the Mike Pence rule about ever meeting *alone* with a woman.

Remember? You called him a RELIGIOUS NUT for doing this

No, he just wants to protect himself from CRETINS like YOU

 

[BBX50]

why did she wait SIX yrs to tel her husband

still waiting for an answer

 

[Que]

You talked so much about “due process rights,” I thought you didn’t want Kavanaugh tried in the court of public opinion. Now, you do?

Or are you saving Kavanaugh’ nomination should not be tried in the court of public opinion, but Ford’s allegations should?



Wow. Nostradamus Ignoramus speaks.



So far, I am willing to say we only “know” one thing — and that is the content of her sworn testimony before the Senate committee. The Senate committee is the fact-finder here.

Soon we will “know” Kavanaugh’s sworn testimony in response.

Then the Senate committee will make a finding of fact, although I doubt they will make it public beyond their votes tomorrow.

Then it will be up to every citizen to decide if the Senate’s process was appropriate. And if it was, then that citizen should respect the Senate’s decision.

That is how a person who respects the rule of law should approach this clusterfuck.

I hope you will do the same, but I really doubt it.

Why not?

The Republicans control this. They (,wisely) handed off questioning to a career sex crimes prosecutor who is a woman. This was a good idea both for the optics of it but also to get the best understanding about what she believes, why she believes it , and whether or not we should believe her belief.

If he gets Borked by the Committee, then either they were sincerely convinced that this is possibly true in which case that's an acceptable outcome because that's what they were elected to be in a position to decide. The other alternative is that they decide for political reasons that they want to Bork him in which case that's also acceptable because they were also elected to make those sort of political decisions. Even if I personally wouldn't have made that decision that does not mean that that's not the correct decision. We have a republican form of government for a reason not a democracy. We don't decide these sort of things we decide who to send to Washington to make these decisions.

Next step if she makes it out of committee is the full Senate vote. If the Senate cannot hold together with 51 Republican because of the Rhinos well then that's a problem of Republicans electing rhinos isn't it? I can't really complain too hard about that because Jeff Flake the flake is my Senator. Hopefully he's about to be replaced by a Centrist Republican woman who also looks awfully good as a future president of the United States.

 

[silver gurl]

Polygraph the entire lot of them

 

[BBX50]

your State would rather have Code Pink then a FIGHTER PILOT

 

[Kirkrapine]

This thread is now up to 67 pages, and nobody (least of all Que) has yet suggested a single good reason to doubt Ford's story or believe Kavanaugh's.

 

[BBX50]

Polygraph the entire lot of them