A Rising Tide....

[EmpressJosephine]

As do Republicans when it comes to George Bush

Which one?

 

[BotanyBoy]

As do Republicans when it comes to George Bush

Nope.....and they aren't anywhere near as prone to avoid talking about him or anything he did.

(D)'s just want to pretend Obama NEVER happened but at the same time revere him as their divine god king .

 

[KeithD]

Nope.....and they aren't anywhere near as prone to avoid talking about him or anything he did.

(D)'s just want to pretend Obama NEVER happened but at the same time revere him as their divine god king .

Hmmm. Obama is back out on the campaign trail for Democrats with cheers and continuing to have better polling than Trump has and George Bush the Lesser is . . . well, he's appearing here and there with Obama but with Trump not invited. So . . .

 

[BotanyBoy]

Hmmm. Obama is back out on the campaign trail for Democrats with cheers and continuing to have better polling than Trump has and George Bush the Lesser is . . . well, he's appearing here and there with Obama but with Trump not invited. So . . .

Yes we know the polls that said everyone hates trump and assured us all he had zero chance of becoming potus still say everyone hates him and that hes an illegitimate fascist dictator.

We also know the same pollsters and most media outlets love Obama, I agree.

What’s that got to do with what I said?

 

[DawnODay]

Let’s look at the current economic statistics to see how Trumponomics is working today:

• Economic growth of 4.2%,
• consumer and business confidence near record highs,
• Unemployment for all ages, education levels, sexes and races near record lows,
• unemployment claims at 50 year low,
• part time jobs for economic reasons are down more than one million,
• stock prices have hit record high over 100 times since Trump took office,
• capital spending for businesses up substantially,
• business and retail sales up,
• imports and exports up,
• oil production near record highs,
• median family income rising faster than at any time in over a decade,
• corporate profits are high,
• bonuses have gone up, wage levels are rising,
• take home pay is up more because of tax cuts,
• dividend income, interest income and capital gains income up.

Oil prices are actually below 2008 and 2012-2015, when incomes and economic growth were lower. Isn’t it amazing how more drilling and production works.

Government entities throughout the country are seeing extra revenue come in because of the surging growth. Higher stock prices, interest rates, dividends and capital gains are helping their (and everyone’s) pension funds.​

J. Hellner, Trumponomics Triumphant, American Thinker (Sep. 25, 2018).

 

[My I]

In a rising tide, those boats with short anchor lines can sink.

Hmmmm..... Seems like a good solution to stupid, lazy people.

 

[Adre]

Let’s look at the current economic statistics to see how Trumponomics is working today:

• Economic growth of 4.2%,
• consumer and business confidence near record highs,
• Unemployment for all ages, education levels, sexes and races near record lows,
• unemployment claims at 50 year low,
• part time jobs for economic reasons are down more than one million,
• stock prices have hit record high over 100 times since Trump took office,
• capital spending for businesses up substantially,
• business and retail sales up,
• imports and exports up,
• oil production near record highs,
• median family income rising faster than at any time in over a decade,
• corporate profits are high,
• bonuses have gone up, wage levels are rising,
• take home pay is up more because of tax cuts,
• dividend income, interest income and capital gains income up.

Oil prices are actually below 2008 and 2012-2015, when incomes and economic growth were lower. Isn’t it amazing how more drilling and production works.

Government entities throughout the country are seeing extra revenue come in because of the surging growth. Higher stock prices, interest rates, dividends and capital gains are helping their (and everyone’s) pension funds.​

J.Trumponomics Triumphant, American Thinker (Sep. 25, 2018).

And yet, with an approval rating of about 36%, he’s really stinking up the joint in every category but the economy.

 

[dan_c00000]

corporate profits are high, bonuses have gone up.​

Yup, all for the rich. You still haven't addressed anything. And you just got fucking owned.

GDP Is Growing, but Workers’ Wages Aren’t

Keep ducking racist dawn. Call in your alts.​

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yup, all for the rich.

Well...they earned it, so they should get it.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Well...they earned it, so they should get it.

Actually, for the most part, subordinates earned it for them.

 

[dan_c00000]

Well...they earned it, so they should get it.

Actually no they didn't. And often when they did they stole a good chunk it from their employees and/or by not paying their employees. Just like your hero the Orange Nazi.

Damn that's a lot of ownage. I sense a rage quit coming on.

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[Kirkrapine]

Then, I must assume you are even more critical of what Pres. Obama did, doubling the national debt (the actual problem, deficit is just am accounting descriptive, while debt is what must be paid off), in just eight years while never producing a year with >3% GDP growth. Now that was a true disaster!

No, the economy he inherited in 2009 was a true disaster; the economy he left behind him was significantly improved.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Actually, for the most part, subordinates earned it for them.

Voluntarily in exchange for a cut of the profit just like everyone else.

Actually no they didn't.

Then how did they get it?

Are you saying management doesn't do anything for their money?

 

[Kirkrapine]

Voluntarily in exchange for a cut of the profit just like everyone else.

You must know "voluntarily" does not mean at all the same thing to employer as to employee.

 

[dan_c00000]

Then how did they get it?

Are you saying management doesn't do anything for their money?

Triggered much? Read the articles. By stealing from workers, their employees, and taxer payers. Good job owning yourself.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Are you saying management doesn't do anything for their money?

It is not unfair to say that their position enables them to overpay themselves for what they do, and they may occasionally yield to that temptation.

 

[DawnODay]

The past week saw more signs that the growing economy is benefiting middle class households, including another jump in household income....

The Labor Department's weekly initial unemployment insurance claims number released last Thursday was an "unexpectedly" low 201,000. That's the lowest this figure has been in nearly 50 years and suggests that the job market continues to thrive.

Meanwhile, the Conference Board reported Tuesday that the Consumer Confidence Index "unexpectedly" rose to 138.4, the highest it's been since 2000. This is a 9% gain so far this year, and a 24% increase in this index since January 2017....

Then there's the median household income index compiled monthly by Sentier Research. It climbed again in August to $62,685. That's up 2.8% from August 2017, and a gain of 4.7% since President Trump took office. It's also now higher than any time since 2000, when Sentier started tracking this....

The Consumer Confidence Index rarely reached 100 during Obama's entire eight years in office. And during his last year in office it barely moved. The index only began its strong upward move after Trump took office....

Sentier data show that median household income did not budge at all from August 2015 until January 2017. It has been steadily moving upward ever since....

The Atlanta Fed's GDPNow number for the third quarter is currently at 4.4%, which, if it holds up, would be higher than the quarter before.

Not only that but, unlike under Obama, this growth is finally starting to generate real benefits for the middle class.​

Pay No Attention To That 'Unexpected' Good Economic News Over There, Investor's Business Daily (Sep. 25, 2018) (emphasis added).

 

[dan_c00000]

The Consumer Confidence Index rarely reached 100 during Obama's entire eight years in office.​

Actually, it reached it quite a bit. You can check the data here. Looks like you found another lying, racist source.

In fact, from May 2014 to August 2018 it's always been over 100.

"The inflation-adjusted incomes of American households reached the highest level ever recorded under Obama."

Racist dawn got found the fuck out.

Trump Is Rigging the Economy Against Workers and the Middle Class

Shit racist dawn is going to have an awful weekend.​

 

[BotanyBoy]

You must know "voluntarily" does not mean at all the same thing to employer as to employee.

Yes it does, at least in the USA it does.

It is not unfair to say that their position enables them to overpay themselves for what they do, and they may occasionally yield to that temptation.

Overpay themselves for what they do according to who??

Sure as shit not the consumers who freely give them all that money.

Triggered much? Read the articles. By stealing from workers, their employees, and taxer payers. Good job owning yourself.

Nope, they don't steal form the workers, their employees or tax payers.

Quite the opposite, they provide them employment.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Yes it does, at least in the USA it does.

Especially not here, with organized labor in its current state.

Overpay themselves for what they do according to who??

Sure as shit not the consumers who freely give them all that money.

Consumers have no input on executive compensation. Neither, more importantly, do workers.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Especially not here, with organized labor in its current state.

Organized labor is irrelevant to the topic of voluntary employment.

If employment isn't voluntary in the US then name a company that forces it's employees to work.

I can't think of a single one.

Consumers have no input on executive compensation.

Consumers have 100% input on all compensation.

Neither, more importantly, do workers.

And unless that was part of their terms of employment they shouldn't.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Organized labor is irrelevant to the topic of voluntary employment.

It never was so irrelevant, not from the beginning of the movement.

 

[dan_c00000]

I'm a racist liar who doesn't read the articles and keep getting my ass handed to me.

Honestly racist bot you make it so easy.

How Restaurants Get Away With Stealing Millions From Workers Every Year

Strength in Numbers: Workers banded together to sue a local trucking company for wage theft

Prosecutors File First Wage Theft Case in Harris County

Nearly $10 million in fines, penalties issued against Massachusetts employers accused of wage theft in 2018

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[BotanyBoy]

It never was so irrelevant, not from the beginning of the movement.

It's always been irrelevant to the topic which you're suddenly avoiding now that you're asked to back up ya buuuu shit.

I'm going to go ahead and assume you can't back up your claims that employment in the US isn't voluntary.

Honestly racist bot you make it so easy.

Then how come you back me up?

You just showed that we as a society punish employers who steal from employees.

Most employers do not steal most of the time, and when they do employees CLEARLY have means of legal recourse.

 

[wizzard426]

I saw a rising blew tied today, so we flushed it!