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Apparently Dems. approached Ramirez, after they found some papertrail:
So it looks like something Did happen at a party.
For me, the issue becomes: do we believe Ramirez's version of events (attempted assault), or did she distort facts? Then and/or now.
I go with the latter.
I'm suspicious that her version of events was watered down,
because it seemed that at the time another version of the same event was being circulated amongst frat boys and the gossip vine.
I'm also influenced by the fact that I Was in the vicinity of such a drama, in which someone watered down their version of events once the gossip started spreading. Out of fear that it might ruin their reputation and marriage, even livelihood.
Which isn't to say that rape isn't the most underreported crime, and that most rape (attempted or completed) accusations aren't genuine.
Which is why I tend to believe Christine Ford.
.
With this mentality due process and the presumption of innocence is dead.
Torquemada made the accused testify first as well. Democrats know how well how that upped his prosecution percentage.
What mentality?
Something apparently DID happen then, they have the papertrail for it.
(Unless, of course it's all fabricated)
Doesn't matter to Democrats. They do not want the Constitution upheld from the SCOTUS. After all this is how they impose those agenda items on the rest of us they can't achieve in the democratic legislative process.
The absolute belief in accusation without corroborating evidence, that mentality. Nothing apparently "did" happened if there is no evidence or sworn testimony to prove it. Blind faith isn't enough.
And it all could be fabricated. The NYTs tried and failed to prove the Yale accusations.
I'll say this for you. When you drink the kool aide - you take a big fucking gulp.
Just got off the phone with the Montgomery Police Department. They said they’re about to put out a statement about the report that they are in touch with a new woman who is accusing Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct
Apparently Dems. approached Ramirez, after they found some papertrail:
So it looks like something Did happen at a party.
For me, the issue becomes: do we believe Ramirez's version of events (attempted assault), or did she distort facts? Then and/or now.
I go with the latter.
https://twitter.com/robferdman/status/1044259470577201162?s=21
He later tweeted they did not confirm or deny it was a new woman. So there is that.
At this time, the Montgomery County Police Department has not received a request by any alleged victim nor a victim’s attorney to initiate a police report or a criminal investigation regarding Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.
Investigators in Montgomery County confirmed Monday they’re aware of a potential second sexual assault complaint in the county against former Georgetown Prep student and Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.
While investigators weren’t specific and spoke on background, they said they are looking at allegations against Kavanaugh during his senior year in high school after an anonymous witness came forward this weekend.
People who were at that party say it never happened. People who weren't at the party are spreading a juicy rumor.
So take your pick. Believe the rumor mongers or the first hand witness's.
Time for Grassley to put a stop to the lynching and call for a vote.
The righties are circlejerking this thread into oblivion.
People who were at that party say it never happened. People who weren't at the party are spreading a juicy rumor.
So take your pick. Believe the rumor mongers or the first hand witness's.
The righties are circlejerking this thread into oblivion.
http://oblimo.pbworks.com/f/SocialMediaCircleJerk.gif
Yes, they are engaging in the old Internet false game of whoever posts the most is right. It gives them comfort, I'm sure.
the victim was at the party and she said it happened.
I have reviewed my Calendars from my High School Years.
There are NO REFERENCES to any Rapes.
Well, it's not exactly the sort of thing you schedule, is it?
How do you know that Ramirez was a victim and not a consensual adult who redacted her version of events post-humously, out of shame?
I'm not saying that it's necessarily true (only a thorough investigation would shed light into it).
But your guys' (Agro's, in particular) habit of becoming 100% convinced on the spot, and of using such words "rapist", "victim" based on "She said, he said", annoy the heck out of me .
Busybody is doing the same by calling Ford "a lying cunt", but at least he's cute.
I, too suspect that Ford is telling the truth. But I'm using words such as "I think that she did it". I'm not calling Kavanaugh "a rapist" until investigations are completed.
Well, it's not exactly the sort of thing you schedule, is it?
Because I read her account and I believe her. In this case, I am 100% convinced on the spot.
Don't pretend you're trying to be "fair" and "open-minded." You've already shown you're prejudiced by calling her "ungraciously" drunk and outright lying about what she said. You have issues, I suspect around girls who drink and party with boys. They must be asking for it or something like that.
I do believe her, but I also said I'm not sure this counts as sexual assault. It makes him a pig, not necessarily a criminal imo.