Kreepy Kavanaugh

[Oblimo]

Feinstein refuses to show the letter to the Chairman of the Committee. Who's going to investigate hearsay?

The committee is going to hear from Ford and Kavanaugh on Thursday.

But a little education for you...

Police investigate hearsay all the damn time. Hearsay is a evidentiary rule at trial, not during investigation.

In fact, hearsay can even provide sufficient probable cause for a search warrant.

You didn’t need to go to law school to know this. Just watch a few episodes of Law and Order.

 

[Que]

No, there’s also attempted rape, which, believe me, was on the books at the time.

Statutes tolling the statue of limitations do reach back in time, smartass. And in this case, the fact that Maryland has no statute of limitations on felonies is a court holding.

But I still don’t understand why you are objecting. Do you really want me to concede that there is no due process issue, and that the Star Chamber can commence and Kavanaugh has no rights? Is that what you really want to have happen?

Nobody, then or now, would charge attempted rape on this set of facts even if there were any corroboration that they were ever in the same place.

Hyperbole like that is what is going to get him confirmed.

My view is that something happened to her by someone. Possibly Kavanaugh, possibly someone else. Whatever did happen to her I accept was as terrifying to her as she reports it. The fact that she was worried about what was going to happen doesn't have any bearing whatsoever on what actually did happen according to her own story.

The story as she tells it would have been unremarkable to her so-called assailant whoever he was. It is not something that that person would have even been aware since her terror was happening inside her head. I'm not minimizing that to be the case but that is what happened. She was worried about what was about to happen not what did actually happen. More likely than not whoever it was would have considered it mere horseplay.

This is why experts on memory have pointed out that Kavenough might actually have been in the room with her and he and she can both be telling the absolute truth about their memories or lack thereof.

Add to that the likelihood of her experience that she had no problem minimizing for years might have been given false significance and fleshed out with not actually recalled but implanted details in therapy and you have less than nothing from a criminal charging perspectuve.

This is about boorish behavior not attempted rape no matter how much you want to characterize it as such. And the subtext for all of this exaggeration that your side is doing is the fact that thet have consistently minimized actual allegations of rape when it suited them. None of that is going to be introduced into the hearing if it ever comes to place but that subtext is there. It's absolutely silly that the same Democrats who argued against impeaching Bill Clinton on a much more serious set of facts would even contemplate impeaching Kavanagh after he is confirmed to the bench.

The only people buying any of that are the people that would have seized on anything to throw him off the bench. It's less than 28% of men and less than 25% of women. You lose. Get over it.

 

[Rightguide]

she could have gone to StinkCunt who WAS IN A POSITION to do more

but HERE is the reason

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/0...=twitchywidget

to protect herself legally cause she is LYING

Same statute that's going to get Comey, McCabe, Rosenstein, Yates, and the whole cabal that had anything to do with those phony FISC applications.

 

[KeithD]

My view is that something happened to her by someone. Possibly Kavanaugh, possibly someone else. Whatever did happen to her I accept was as terrifying to her as she reports it.

Well, now, isn't that conjecture on your part (seeing as how you brought conjecture up as some sort of negative that made you superior)?

 

[Aglaopheme]

I represent a woman with credible information regarding Judge Kavanaugh and Mark Judge. We will be demanding the opportunity to present testimony to the committee and will likewise be demanding that Judge and others be subpoenaed to testify. The nomination must be withdrawn.

https://twitter.com/michaelavenatti/status/1044006928416825344?s=21

 

[Aglaopheme]

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news...deborah-ramirez/amp?__twitter_impression=true

As Senate Republicans press for a swift vote to confirm Brett Kavanaugh, President Trump’s nominee to the Supreme Court, Senate Democrats are investigating a new allegation of sexual misconduct against Kavanaugh. The claim dates to the 1983-84 academic school year, when Kavanaugh was a freshman at Yale University. The offices of at least four Democratic senators have received information about the allegation, and at least two have begun investigating it. Senior Republican staffers also learned of the allegation last week and, in conversations with The New Yorker, expressed concern about its potential impact on Kavanaugh’s nomination. Soon after, Senate Republicans issued renewed calls to accelerate the timing of a committee vote.

Uh huh.....

 

[Rightguide]

If you can't let what Trump does and says as well as the indictments/convictions already levied on those in Trump's orbit and those surely to come answer, you're not capable/willing to absorb an answer. I hope the Russians are paying you well to be that dumb too.


"Everyone" is an answer, and thus far as been a very good one. Who do you think you're fooling? (Funny how you don't answer any questions.)

^^^

Mushroom inspired.

 

[Que]

Lawyers don't "demand" anything of Senators.

"Press for a swift vote?"

Nice spin.

The hearings had already been concluded and the vote had already been scheduled before Feinstein's desperate hail mary. The Republicans have generously put off the vote. They're not "pressing for a swift vote" they have put it off for no good reason.

Were it up to me, the vote would have been held in committee, last Thursday.

 

[Aglaopheme]

A classmate of Ramirez’s, who declined to be identified because of the partisan battle over Kavanaugh’s nomination, said that another student told him about the incident either on the night of the party or in the next day or two. The classmate said that he is “one hundred per cent sure” that he was told at the time that Kavanaugh was the student who exposed himself to Ramirez. He independently recalled many of the same details offered by Ramirez, including that a male student had encouraged Kavanaugh as he exposed himself. The classmate, like Ramirez, recalled that the party took place in a common room on the first floor in Entryway B of Lawrance Hall, during their freshman year. “I’ve known this all along,” he said. “It’s been on my mind all these years when his name came up. It was a big deal.” The story stayed with him, he said, because it was disturbing and seemed outside the bounds of typically acceptable behavior, even during heavy drinking at parties on campus. The classmate said that he had been shocked, but not necessarily surprised, because the social group to which Kavanaugh belonged often drank to excess. He recalled Kavanaugh as “relatively shy” until he drank, at which point he said that Kavanagh could become “aggressive and even belligerent.”

Another classmate, Richard Oh, an emergency-room doctor in California, recalled overhearing, soon after the party, a female student tearfully recounting to another student an incident at a party involving a gag with a fake penis, followed by a male student exposing himself. Oh is not certain of the identity of the female student. Ramirez told her mother and sister about an upsetting incident at the time, but did not describe the details to either due to her embarrassment.

Hmmm.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Lawyers don't "demand" anything of Senators.

"Press for a swift vote?"

Nice spin.

The hearings had already been concluded and the vote had already been scheduled before Feinstein's desperate hail mary. The Republicans have generously put off the vote. They're not "pressing for a swift vote" they have put it off for no good reason.

Were it up to me, the vote would have been held in committee, last Thursday.

Apparetnly, there are a few very good reasons. How many women will it take coming forward for you to quit this blind defense?

 

[Aglaopheme]

Avenatti:

My client is not Deborah Ramirez.

https://twitter.com/michaelavenatti/status/1044013350873489409?s=21

 

[Luk]

I had a Chihuahua nipping at my ankles. Had this been posted yet?

@jaketapper: Grassley releases Professor Ford’s letter https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/im...ey**0-**0July**030**0Letter**0from**0Ford.pdf


Oh well, go find out yourselves.

 

[Que]

Apparetnly, there are a few very good reasons. How many women will it take coming forward for you to quit this blind defense?

Too little to late when the stated strategy by Dems has been to delay and you can't get your star into Anita's chair.

He is going to be seated and I am going to be gleeful about your impotent howls afterward.

You got your eminently unqualified Kagen and your racist wise Latina. Be content.

 

[Oblimo]

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Nobody, then or now, would charge attempted rape on this set of facts even if there were any corroboration that they were ever in the same place.

You have no idea what an investigation what would uncover. Neither do I. Neither does Grassley, which is why he’s doing everything he can to not open the door to one. (And, in my unsubstantiated pet theory, neither does Kavanaugh.)

Hyperbole like that is what is going to get him confirmed.

What hyperbole? I’m not accusing him of anything.

This is about boorish behavior not attempted rape no matter how much you want to characterize it as such.

I am not categorizing it as attempted rape. I am saying that it can be. Especially if it was. This is the risk analysis Grassley is going through.

And the subtext for all of this exaggeration that your side is doing is the fact that thet have consistently minimized actual allegations of rape when it suited them.

My side? I’m taking Kavanaugh’s side, here, saying it would be unfair to push him to testify.

It's absolutely silly that the same Democrats who argued against impeaching Bill Clinton on a much more serious set of facts would even contemplate impeaching Kavanagh after he is confirmed to the bench.

Dammit, you’re bait hooked me, and I’m going to let you derail this whole thing by asking this question:

Perjury is more serious than sexual assault?

The only people buying any of that are the people that would have seized on anything to throw him off the bench. It's less than 28% of men and less than 25% of women. You lose. Get over it.

If you think Grassley thinks Kavanaugh didn’t assault Ford, or is willing to gamble on his innocence even if he believes Kavanaugh, well, that’s just adorable.

 

[Rightguide]

I presume you were responding to some other poster than me, as I've been pretty detached from this, accepting that the evidence on the sexual misconduct is both thin and could be false, that he's likely to get confirmed anyway unless Murkowski and Collins want to save their asses on the home front, and that the case is already there (and started) to just bounce Kavanaugh out of federal judgeships future and current as soon as the Democrats get into full power (which isn't a sure thing itself) because he's lied under oath to Congress already and there very likely is a goldmine in the background files the Republicans won't release.

The lying under oath bit is tired and refuted.

 

[Que]

I had a Chihuahua nipping at my ankles. Had this been posted yet?

@jaketapper: Grassley releases Professor Ford’s letter https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/im...ey**0-**0July**030**0Letter**0from**0Ford.pdf


Oh well, go find out yourselves.

"Page not found"

Ohhhh, snap!

Victory dance!!

I wonder if Rob is going to show up to give you a reach-around again like he did when you were so gleeful that I had a broken link which I fixed in less time than it takes to show the edit.

#Lukfail
#passiveagressivemisogynist
#cannotanswerforhismisogyny

 

[Aglaopheme]

Too little to late when the stated strategy by Dems has been to delay and you can't get your star into Anita's chair.

He is going to be seated and I am going to be gleeful about your impotent howls afterward.

You got your eminently unqualified Kagen and your racist wise Latina. Be content.

A whole slew of women can come forward and you wouldn’t care. Got it.

 

[Aglaopheme]

I had a Chihuahua nipping at my ankles. Had this been posted yet?

@jaketapper: Grassley releases Professor Ford’s letter https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/im...ey**0-**0July**030**0Letter**0from**0Ford.pdf


Oh well, go find out yourselves.

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1044015961362305024?s=21

 

[Oblimo]

Lawyers don't "demand" anything of Senators.

You need to meet more lawyers.

 

[Rightguide]

Then there's no reason for you do be doing all of this defensive slobbering, is there? I mean if you actually believe the garbage you spew.

You're garbage of Durbin and Leahy claiming he lied under oath has been refuted.

 

[Que]

You have no idea what an investigation what would uncover. Neither do I. Neither does Grassley, which is why he’s doing everything he can to not open the door to one. (And, in my unsubstantiated pet theory, neither does Kavanaugh.)



What hyperbole? I’m not accusing him of anything.



I am not categorizing it as attempted rape. I am saying that it can be. Especially if it was. This is the risk analysis Grassley is going through.



My side? I’m taking Kavanaugh’s side, here, saying it would be unfair to push him to testify.



Dammit, you’re bait hooked me, and I’m going to let you derail this whole thing by asking this question:

Perjury is more serious than sexual assault?



If you think Grassley thinks Kavanaugh didn’t assault Ford, or is willing to gamble on his innocence even if he believes Kavanaugh, well, that’s just adorable.

Perjury was the LEAST of the included charges. It was just the easiest ti price. But you knew that. Or should have.

Available charges not included run all the way up to multiple charges of various levels of sexual assault up to and including actual rape.

I'm pretty sure that most people would think that actual rape by an adult is more serious than juvenile groping.

You make my point. Pretending you have NO IDEA about quite credible, corroborated ( they did teach you where corroborated means in law school didn't you or do I have to explain that as well) of an entire pattern of sexual misconduct while you extrapolate conduct not even alleged by Ford into something it was clearly not.

You embarrass yourself.

 

[Rightguide]

The committee is going to hear from Ford and Kavanaugh on Thursday.

But a little education for you...

Police investigate hearsay all the damn time. Hearsay is a evidentiary rule at trial, not during investigation.

In fact, hearsay can even provide sufficient probable cause for a search warrant.

You didn’t need to go to law school to know this. Just watch a few episodes of Law and Order.

Law and Order is probably where you got you legal education.

 

[von_Bismarck]

Too little to late when the stated strategy by Dems has been to delay and you can't get your star into Anita's chair.

He is going to be seated and I am going to be gleeful about your impotent howls afterward.

You got your eminently unqualified Kagen and your racist wise Latina. Be content.

You really are a dreadful person.

 

[Rightguide]

Well now, as I referred to earlier Karen Tumulty appears to be clairvoyant, it appears Ronan Farrow has found another woman. As predicted.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/dru...t-to-break-report-on-kavanaugh-another-woman/

 

[Que]

Law and Order is probably where you got you legal education.

No question.

Law school is for passing the bar, not for practicing law. No one hires a recent law school graduate to defend them without supervision by an experienced, criminal law attorney.