Kreepy Kavanaugh

[Rightguide]

Unless the allegations are true and Kavanaugh, not willing to lie under oath as you claim he is, testifies without invoking his 5th Amendment rights. Then they might.

But it is very doubtful. Still, it is something that Kavanaugh must weigh. Also, him going under oath and saying “I’ve never done anything like that, never seen this woman before in my life, was never at such a party,” provides something to investigate/confirm.

He’s royally fucked in a rolling donught, and I’m not sure that is fair.

Question: Is English your first or second language?

 

[BBX50]

Question: Is English your first or second language?

Turd Language

 

[SpeareChucker]

I notice how quickly they have turned to the crime of binge-drinkig and now they want him to answer for that crime.



He might even have to plead "the fifth" of Chivas.

 

[Que]

and 2 minutes ago. WTF got into him besides meth?

What is it with your fascination with meth? I am not in a position to say whether your use of that and other substances is a problem but you maintaining that you don't "abuse" it sounds pretty slippery.

I think your honesty about the fact that you can't handle alcohol and are better off abstaining entirely is probably helpful. Your lack of insight though into you being a poly addict is probably not helpful. Switching from one substance to another doesn't mean that you are in control.

You really should poke your head into an NA meeting. Nobody's there is going to tell you you are an addict you have to decide that for yourself but they can share their stories and you can see where the end of the road might be for you given your current level of drug use even if you don't feel it's abuse.

If you lack the courage to do so perhaps just attend an AA meeting. You can go in there and brag about how long it's been since you've used alcohol get a pat on the back for that and get a general level of support for your anger issues.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Keith no one is as wound up as you are.

Especially on the Russian shit. That has me lmao...

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Wow this is a really exciting thread

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[KeithD]

in other words you cant answer

EVERYONE isnt an answer

If you can't let what Trump does and says as well as the indictments/convictions already levied on those in Trump's orbit and those surely to come answer, you're not capable/willing to absorb an answer. I hope the Russians are paying you well to be that dumb too.


"Everyone" is an answer, and thus far as been a very good one. Who do you think you're fooling? (Funny how you don't answer any questions.)

 

[Oblimo]

Prove to me your first bullet point.

I told you I was working on it.

Anyway, here it is:

Massey v. State, 320 Md. 605, 610, 579 A.2d 265, 267 (Md. 1990); State v. Renfro, 223 Md. App. 779 (2015), cert. denied, 445 Md. 6, 122 A.3d 976 (2015) (“Maryland has no statute of limitations on felonies.”)

You have yet to do that. You keep repeating it has literal truth, and it may be, but I prefer to see where you learned this from.

I learned it from the documentary about the “Keepers” scandal.

But just a few minutes ago I (gasp) googled and found this awesome site/database, directly on point:

Criminal Statutes of Limitations on Sexual Offenses in Maryland

I would also be interested in the definition of fourth degree.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=4th+Degree+Sexual+Offense+Maryland

Here’s the direct statute. As I understand it, it’s the crime you’d be charged with for grabbing a girl by the boob, without intent or attempt to do anything further than that.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE A SINGLE BIT OF SOLID EVIDENCE!

AHH! NO YOU DON’T WHY ARE WE SHOUTING?!

You don’t want to see solid evidence, because you don’t want the Senate to reject his nomination, and you don’t want to him to prosecuted afterward, either.

Think like a defense lawyer, man.

The rest of your bullet points are well laid-out conjecture and wishful thinking.

It would be wishful thinking on Kavanaugh’s part, because it gives him a good excuse to not testify.

It is impossible for him to lie about accusations of, I don't remember when, I don't remember where, my witnesses will not corroborate, in fact, it's just the opposite. If she cannot give a place, time or a single witness, then how can he possibly lie?

Because he will need to give a catagorical denial, if it did indeed not happen, or come off as a total sleazeball if he refuses to confirm or deny without invoking the 5th. I’m not talking about prosecution for perjury, I’m talking about opening the door to an investigation by the Maryland police.

Grassley will probably try to let him make a statement and not be subject to questions by the Democratic Senators. I would if I were him. If not, Kavanaugh will be asked things like, “Have you ever met this person? Have you ever been to a party where you encountered this person? Have you ever touched this persons boobs, at any time?”

No amount of investigation or interrogation can overcome the severe limitations of Ford's "memory."

The GOP doesn’t have the luxury of believing it didn’t happen. The GOP must do everything it can to prevent an investigation from going forward, because that risks finding something. Because if it really did happen, the MD detective might find a witness that hasn’t come forward. All sorts of possibilities.

Now here comes legitimate Oblimo speculation with minimal basis to back it up: based on the notes in Kavanaugh’s yearbook, prior comments from his friend about their party habits, and the long-standing tradition of seniors at his high school for partying harder than scenes from Animal House, I speculate that Kavanaugh had went to several parties his senior year of high school where he got so shitfaced he doesn’t remember a damned thing about them. He would not be alone.

That’s my pet theory that’s what he’s facing. What a nightmare.

 

[SpeareChucker]

So at best he's guilty of a misdemeanor, if it even happened, and the statue of limitations have indeed probably run out.

Now, the law was passed many years after the incident.

Does law reach back in time?

 

[Rightguide]

Christ. No wonder laypeople like you two need to hire attorneys.

~Raises eyebrow~

This is kind of rich.

 

[Luk]

What is it with your fascination with meth? I am not in a position to say whether your use of that and other substances is a problem but you maintaining that you don't "abuse" it sounds pretty slippery.

I think your honesty about the fact that you can't handle alcohol and are better off abstaining entirely is probably helpful. Your lack of insight though into you being a poly addict is probably not helpful. Switching from one substance to another doesn't mean that you are in control.

You really should poke your head into an NA meeting. Nobody's there is going to tell you you are an addict you have to decide that for yourself but they can share their stories and you can see where the end of the road might be for you given your current level of drug use even if you don't feel it's abuse.

If you lack the courage to do so perhaps just attend an AA meeting. You can go in there and brag about how long it's been since you've used alcohol get a pat on the back for that and get a general level of support for your anger issues.

^^^wisdom gained by making his family suffer through his addictions.

 

[SpeareChucker]

You've seen, by now, that he's turning n his calendar from that time to show that he wasn't there as well as listing the parties he attended and who was there.




I think my time here is done for tonight...

 

[Oblimo]

Well that didn't last long until you reverted to type, did it?

Excuse me? I even apologized.

 

[KeithD]

I don't see why Kavanaugh would have trouble lying under oath during a confirmation hearing. He's done that before in confirmation hearings and has been protected by the Republicans in power. He only has to worry about the Republicans going out of power, and he has to worry about that anyway, because he's already been caught lying in congressional testimony under oath.

As long as the Republicans cover for him and refuse to release 93 percent of the documentation and as long as no one else comes out of the woodwork to charge him with anything (and if there is anyone else, they are taking their sweet time coming out--unless the Democrats are holding them back for strategic use, in which case there's nothing Kavanaugh can do about that anyway) Kavanaugh is free to just stonewall.

 

[SpeareChucker]

PS - You're going on hearsay and conjecture. You just want this so badly...

 

[Rightguide]

Do I need to take remedial English?

What the fuck is going on?

That's what I was wonderin'.

 

[Oblimo]

~Raises eyebrow~

This is kind of rich.

I was a member of the New York bar for over a decade and let my license to practice law lapse because the continuing education requirements of a bar membership with no reciprocity where I never planned to practice law again was unwarranted.

 

[Que]

^^^wisdom gained by making his family suffer through his addictions.

You know nothing of my family. Still bitter that no one, ever, has wanted to form a family with you?

It would be hard to get addicted to things I have never tried, but you can keep projecting your own failings onto me if it makes you feel better about the burden of being you.

 

[KeithD]

PS - You're going on hearsay and conjecture. You just want this so badly...

I presume you were responding to some other poster than me, as I've been pretty detached from this, accepting that the evidence on the sexual misconduct is both thin and could be false, that he's likely to get confirmed anyway unless Murkowski and Collins want to save their asses on the home front, and that the case is already there (and started) to just bounce Kavanaugh out of federal judgeships future and current as soon as the Democrats get into full power (which isn't a sure thing itself) because he's lied under oath to Congress already and there very likely is a goldmine in the background files the Republicans won't release.

 

[Que]

I presume you were responding to some other poster than me, as I've been pretty detached from this, accepting that the evidence on the sexual misconduct is both thin and could be false, that he's likely to get confirmed anyway unless Murkowski and Collins want to save their asses on the home front, and that the case is already there (and started) to just bounce Kavanaugh out of federal judgeships future and current as soon as the Democrats get into full power (which isn't a sure thing itself) because he's lied under oath to Congress already and there very likely is a goldmine in the background files the Republicans won't release.

Your "goldmine" showing "lies" is hearsay and conjecture. More conjecture than hearsay. Somebody would have to say something with a level of specificity for it to be actual hearsay. Speculation is just speculation. You do that rather well you really should hang around the story ideas section. That's what you're best at.

 

[Oblimo]

So at best he's guilty of a misdemeanor, if it even happened, and the statue of limitations have indeed probably run out.

Now, the law was passed many years after the incident.

Does law reach back in time?

No, there’s also attempted rape, which, believe me, was on the books at the time.

Statutes tolling the statue of limitations do reach back in time, smartass. And in this case, the fact that Maryland has no statute of limitations on felonies is a court holding.

But I still don’t understand why you are objecting. Do you really want me to concede that there is no due process issue, and that the Star Chamber can commence and Kavanaugh has no rights? Is that what you really want to have happen?

 

[Rightguide]

The Dems have already filed on removing Kavanaugh on the basis of the shown lies in his congressional testimony, Holding on to him is only stupidity by the stubborn old fart Repugs in Congress. They should have let an investigation roll, which probably wouldn't have been conclusive and then either vote Kavanaugh in or let him loose and gone on to the next one, which would have helped bring Trump to heel in the process.

Which even the WaPo refuted

 

[KeithD]

Your "goldmine" showing "lies" is hearsay and conjecture. More conjecture than hearsay. Somebody would have to say something with a level of specificity for it to be actual hearsay. Speculation is just speculation. You do that rather well you really should hang around the story ideas section. That's what you're best at.

It sort of stops being conjecture when it meets the Republican's stonewalling on producing material that's routinely produced for every other candidate. At some point you need to use your brain to at least quarter capacity, Que.

And I laugh at your criticism of anyone else using hearsay and conjecture. You're such a joker.

 

[Luk]

You know nothing of my family. Still bitter that no one, ever, has wanted to form a family with you?

It would be hard to get addicted to things I have never tried, but you can keep projecting your own failings onto me if it makes you feel better about the burden of being you.

Subscribing to the "Better to have a family and lost it all to addiction than to never have one at all" theory, I see. I'm sure your kid's biological father appreciates them more than you did anyway.

 

[KeithD]

Which even the WaPo refuted

Then there's no reason for you do be doing all of this defensive slobbering, is there? I mean if you actually believe the garbage you spew.