Rapists should go to prison.

[cherries_on_snow]

They should never be Presidents.

 

[Boxlicker101]

They should never be Presidents.

But Bill Clinton was elected, so there wasn't much to be done.

 

[scootch00]

They should never be Presidents.

Just curious are you just making a statement?
Or are you saying a rapist became president?
If so when did we have a rapist become president?

 

[flanneland]

They should most certainly go to prison. But, what about those who lie about having been raped? What should their consequences be?

 

[phrodeau]

Just curious are you just making a statement?
Or are you saying a rapist became president?
If so when did we have a rapist become president?

The current occupant of the White House has been accused of forcible rape by more than one victim, in court, under oath.

 

[scootch00]

The current occupant of the White House has been accused of forcible rape by more than one victim, in court, under oath.

Ok, they are accusations, they never went to trial and he was never convicted.
So he is not a rapist, false accusations of rape happen all the time.

 

[someoneyouknow]

But Bill Clinton was elected, so there wasn't much to be done.

And who did Clinton rape?

 

[Rocketman00i69]

Let’s take politics and the judicial system out of this. All I know is if it was my daughter that was raped at cut the man’s dick off.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Let’s take politics and the judicial system out of this. All I know is if it was my daughter that was raped at cut the man’s dick off.

If it's your son who is raped, then what do you cut off?

 

[lovecraft68]

Unless they can play football, then its just fine.

 

[jaF0]

All I know is if it was my daughter that was raped at cut the man’s dick off.

So, you believe in Sharia Law?

 

[wickedpanda]

They should never be Presidents.

So why did women vote for Clinton so many times.....and woman that cry Rape and its bullshit should go to prison and have to pay the guy back for ruining his life.

Having sex with a guy and then 20 years later calling it Rape is total bullshit!

 

[Rocketman00i69]

So, you believe in Sharia Law?

I don’t know Sherry Law. There was a time in this country when you could believe what you saw on the on TV or what you read in the newspaper. But those days have come and gone, now people make accusations that are unfounded. And people get away with stuff that they shouldn’t. I’m just saying if you come into my neighborhood and you rate my daughter or my granddaughter you’ll be looking for your dick because I’m cutting it off.

Where I live, you treat everyone with this respect especially women.

 

[Boxlicker101]

And who did Clinton rape?

He was accused of raping Juanita Broaddrick, but never convicted. As far as I know, no POTUS has ever been convicted of raping anybody; therefore none has ever gone to prison for that crime.

 

[jaF0]

I’m just saying if you come into my neighborhood and you rate my daughter or my granddaughter you’ll be looking for your dick because I’m cutting it off.

That's Sharia Law. That's what the Muslims you hate so much do. So, you're saying they're not so bad and they way of life is better than ours?

 

[AnAmericanDarling]

I don’t know Sherry Law. There was a time in this country when you could believe what you saw on the on TV or what you read in the newspaper. But those days have come and gone, now people make accusations that are unfounded. And people get away with stuff that they shouldn’t. I’m just saying if you come into my neighborhood and you rate my daughter or my granddaughter you’ll be looking for your dick because I’m cutting it off.

Where I live, you treat everyone with this respect especially women.

So what? You want some sort of medal for protecting your women? Get over yourself.

 

[AnAmericanDarling]

He was accused of raping Juanita Broaddrick, but never convicted. As far as I know, no POTUS has ever been convicted of raping anybody; therefore none has ever gone to prison for that crime.

Accusation is not proof, so you and your little Conservative friends get over the fact that he probably never touched the woman.

 

[phrodeau]

That's Sharia Law. That's what the Muslims you hate so much do. So, you're saying they're not so bad and they way of life is better than ours?

No, it isn't. There's nothing in Sharia law that says a judge can order a rapist's dick to be cut off.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101 View Post
He was accused of raping Juanita Broaddrick, but never convicted. As far as I know, no POTUS has ever been convicted of raping anybody; therefore none has ever gone to prison for that crime.

Accusation is not proof, so you and your little Conservative friends get over the fact that he probably never touched the woman.

I agree, 100%. However, you can say the same thing about the accusations against The Donald. One thing you can say about Clinton but not about Trump is that the former had an affair with an intern, with their trysts taking place in The Oval Office.

 

[Paul_Chance]

When a person is convicted of rape, they usually go to prison. Though, often in my opinion the sentences are woefully short.

However, the accused gets all of the due process afforded under law.

Until it gets into court, until there is evidence presented, testimony taken, and an opportunity for a defense, it is just an accusation - whether they're accusing a democrat or a republican. There are enough false accusations leveled to warrant a cautionary approach.

Accusations are easy, allegations easier. In the political realm, often the intention is to inflict political damage, whether it ever gets to court or not.

Due process, evidence, proof all still matter. Thankfully.

 

[phrodeau]

A rapist is a person who commits rape, whether convicted or not.

 

[Boxlicker101]

A rapist is a person who commits rape, whether convicted or not.

That's true, but they don't go to prison, as called for in the OP, without a conviction. And I agree with the sentiments expressed therein.

 

[Boxlicker101]

When a person is convicted of rape, they usually go to prison. Though, often in my opinion the sentences are woefully short.

However, the accused gets all of the due process afforded under law.

Until it gets into court, until there is evidence presented, testimony taken, and an opportunity for a defense, it is just an accusation - whether they're accusing a democrat or a republican. There are enough false accusations leveled to warrant a cautionary approach.

Accusations are easy, allegations easier. In the political realm, often the intention is to inflict political damage, whether it ever gets to court or not.

Due process, evidence, proof all still matter. Thankfully.

If the sentences are too short, do an Aaron Persky on the judges who do the sentencing. If you can, that is.

 

[Paul_Chance]

Since rape is generally a state level crime (though sometimes federal, if it occurs in a federally controlled jurisdiction), there is a wide variance in length of sentence, with the average falling at about 6 years (the bottom end may be probation, the top end may be life without parole).

Most states have determinate sentencing, meaning the length of the sentence is determined by a formula derived by the legislature, with some states leaving wide discretion to the judge and prosecutor, as in California.

As concerned citizens, if a person is interested in influencing those determinate sentences, or in limiting judicial discretion, then the proper path is to work with one of the many organizations working in the field to influence the state legislature.

On the OP, in terms of "The President", or often in the case of the other public figures, the only caution is that an accusation is not a conviction, nor is an accusation in and of itself sufficient to even determine if the crime occurred. Yes, the victim/accuser should always be taken seriously, and a serious investigation should always be mounted, but as a nation of laws and a people with an interest in justice, due process is the key. We currently live in a political climate that is consumed with a rush to judgement - we have seen, time and again, supposedly solid cases simply fall apart under reasonable and diligent scrutiny.

None of which will matter to the hyper-partisans, for whom the accusation itself is sufficient.

 

[Boxlicker101]

The current occupant of the White House has been accused of forcible rape by more than one victim, in court, under oath.

Who, specifically, has made these accusations in court and when were they made?