Police killings on the rise, thanks to the con artist

[someoneyouknow]

In 2017, 46 on-duty officers were killed by guns, according to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund. The year before, it was 67, and in 2015, it was 43.

From Jan. 1 to March 30, 2017, 10 on-duty officers were shot dead. From Jan. 1 to March 30 of this year, 20 on-duty officers were shot dead.

If this year's pattern continues at its current rate, 2018 could see 80 on-duty police deaths from gun violence.

Former Dallas police chief and ABC News contributor David Brown said he thinks there's a decrease in trust of the government and thus a decrease in trust of law enforcement as well.

"I'm really concerned that the 'us against them' mentality will take over, which is not healthy for delivering the best police service."

A decrease in trust of the government? Why would people think that? It couldn't have anything to do with a corrupt, malignant narcissist who keeps saying the government is unfair to people who have committed crimes, who excuses white supremacists as being not that bad, and who calls out our national intelligence agencies for being part of a "deep state", could it?

Along the same lines, there were 50 active shooter incidents in the U.S., more than any other year on record. The two can't possibly be connected, right?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/2018-deadly-year-cops/story?id=53859585

https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-us-2016-2017.pdf/view

 

[AnAmericanDarling]

These police officers kind of get what they deserve, the way they've been targeting blacks.

 

[BotanyBoy]

In 2017, 46 on-duty officers were killed by guns, according to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund. The year before, it was 67, and in 2015, it was 43.

From Jan. 1 to March 30, 2017, 10 on-duty officers were shot dead. From Jan. 1 to March 30 of this year, 20 on-duty officers were shot dead.

If this year's pattern continues at its current rate, 2018 could see 80 on-duty police deaths from gun violence.

Former Dallas police chief and ABC News contributor David Brown said he thinks there's a decrease in trust of the government and thus a decrease in trust of law enforcement as well.

"I'm really concerned that the 'us against them' mentality will take over, which is not healthy for delivering the best police service."

A decrease in trust of the government? Why would people think that? It couldn't have anything to do with a corrupt, malignant narcissist who keeps saying the government is unfair to people who have committed crimes, who excuses white supremacists as being not that bad, and who calls out our national intelligence agencies for being part of a "deep state", could it?

Along the same lines, there were 50 active shooter incidents in the U.S., more than any other year on record. The two can't possibly be connected, right?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/2018-deadly-year-cops/story?id=53859585

https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-us-2016-2017.pdf/view

None of the stuff that happened under the Obama administration was Obamas fault though.....must have been Bush's fault.

 

[Veroe]

I don't think you can lay this directly at Trump's feet. It was going on before him during Obama's and Bush's terms too and probably all the way back since the reconstruction era.

Trump is responsible for creating an atmosphere where these racist or prejudiced cops can feel emboldened that a man is in the oval office that probably won't sic the justice dept. on them like Obama did to the cops in Ferguson. I mean appointing Jeff Sessions as the head of the justice department....he's not the type of guy that would vigorously seek justice for the victims of police brutality or shooting a young kid simply because they were wearing a hoodie while being black.

 

[KeithD]

That there's an upswing in police brutality can most certainly be laid at Trump's feet. The president of the United States has made statements encouraging police brutality. There are policemen who will jump--and have jumped--at that level of support for brutality.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I don't think you can lay this directly at Trump's feet.

Careful there....you're sounding like a Nazi

Repeat after me: "All good things (D), "progress", Obama !!!.....Trump, Bush and (R)'s all evil, even when they are doing the same shit."

Now say it 1000 times and blame Trump for all your woes and NEVER go off the plantation again or your status as a Nazi is concrete.

Unless you're white...in which case you're a born Nazi and should flog yourself daily for being a slave owning Nazi.

 

[BotanyBoy]

That there's an upswing in police brutality can most certainly be laid at Trump's feet.

More apparently under Obama, with 67 in 2016.

But that's not AT ALL Obama's responsibility in any way shape or form...(D)'s are NEVER at fault for their shit, always (R)'s!!

Right?

 

[psiberzerker]

Police killings are pretty random. There's a lot of factors in every one, and hasn't he taken credit for enough things he had absolutely nothing to do with?

Police killings are pretty random. There's a lot of factors in every one, and hasn't he taken credit for enough things he had absolutely nothing to do with?

http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html

Can you see the pattern here, because I sure can't. I just scanned through it, but Botanyboy seems to have it right. That's the points, is 67, 43, and a projected 80. If it continues at this rate? Why should we assume that it will continue, go up, or down, without external intervention?

Maybe we should wait, and see, instead of projecting from 3 months? I'm not sure this is how statistical analysis works. Is spring consistent with police violence in summer? I'd expect it to be similar in fall, but that's 2 quarters of 2 consecutive years.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Police killings are pretty random. There's a lot of factors in every one, and hasn't he taken credit for enough things he had absolutely nothing to do with?

Police killings are pretty random. There's a lot of factors in every one, and hasn't he taken credit for enough things he had absolutely nothing to do with?

http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html

Can you see the pattern here, because I sure can't. I just scanned through it, but Botanyboy seems to have it right. That's the points, is 67, 43, and a projected 80. If it continues at this rate? Why should we assume that it will continue, go up, or down, without external intervention?

Maybe we should wait, and see, instead of projecting from 3 months? I'm not sure this is how statistical analysis works.

Look....just agree that it's all (everything bad) is Trumps fault.

Or you're a Nazi.

Don't you know how "progress" works???

 

[psiberzerker]

Look....just agree that it's all (everything bad) is Trumps fault.

Or you're a Nazi.

I thought the Nazis were on his side? Now I'm even more confused. Aren't they supposed to be National Socialists? Are they Nationalists, or Socialists? I'm calling Fake News on this one.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I thought the Nazis were on his side?

They are, anyone who doesn't toe the "progressive" narrative is a Nazi.

Now I'm even more confused. Aren't they supposed to be National Socialists?

Hey now...that's the actual definition of Nazi.

We aren't talking abut that.

This is 2018.

Nazi = white people, men, anyone who's not "progressive" or further left.

Are they Nationalists, or Socialists? I'm calling Fake News on this one.

You can be both.

 

[psiberzerker]

Nazi = white people, men, anyone who's not "progressive" or further left.

Yeah, but, they showed up with Schwasticas, and shit. I don't mean "Nazis," I mean jackbooted, tiki torch Nazis. They're like 1 vocabulary test away from forming a party.

Also, pretty sure Eichmann defined it as white men.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yeah, but, they showed up with Schwasticas, and shit. I don't mean "Nazis," I mean jackbooted, tiki torch Nazis. They're like 1 vocabulary test away from forming a party.

So your talking about the few thousand nationalist racists....that are about as relevant as the AntiFa dipshits running around protesting against free speech.

Also, pretty sure Eichmann defined it as white men.

Yea but "progressives" defined it as all white men.

 

[psiberzerker]

So your talking about the few thousand nationalist racists....that are about as relevant as the AntiFa dipshits running around protesting against free speech.

And nazis.

Yea but "progressives" defined it as all white men.

No, pretty sure that's what Uber Alles means. That was Goebbels. All white, so white they're blond and blue.

 

[someoneyouknow]

No, pretty sure that's what Uber Alles means. That was Goebbels. All white, so white they're blond and blue.

No. Uber alles (ueber alles) means more than anything else.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=uber%20alles

People get it wrong (I had to look it up) because, as stated above, the Allied propaganda was so good it lasts until today.

 

[psiberzerker]

Uber alles (ueber alles) means more than anything else.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=uber%20alles

People get it wrong (I had to look it up) because, as stated above, the Allied propaganda was so good it lasts until today.

Right, white guys over all else. The whiter the better, to the point of killing or deporting the "Swartzes." The "Dunkelblut."

Nazis are white supremacists, but he still hasn't produced an actual progressive calling any American a Nazi that wasn't an actual White Supremacist. Okay, maybe the Klan aren't technically Nazis, but they sure don't seem to mind marching with them.

So, maybe it's not all progressives calling anyone that disagrees with them a Nazi, when there's Nazis marching down the street in Charlottesville. Is it possible that they were talking about the Nazis, and #NotAllMen?

 

[someoneyouknow]

I find it hilarious the very people who were whining about Obama's "war on police", even when he called out the rioters in Baltimore as criminals and thugs, that doing such things was wrong and criminal in nature, who blamed him every time a copy got shot and killed, are now defending the con artist who has gone out of his way to denigrate pretty much every level of law enforcement in this country, including claiming he knows more than the generals.

All the while the number of police being killed keeps going up. But that's not his fault. Nope, nothing is ever his fault.

 

[psiberzerker]

Nope, nothing is ever his fault.

Nothing BAD is ever his fault. That peace thing? And that other peace thing? Nasdaq continuing to rise to a record high, since 2009? Totally his fault.

 

[Veroe]

Careful there....you're sounding like a Nazi

Repeat after me: "All good things (D), "progress", Obama !!!.....Trump, Bush and (R)'s all evil, even when they are doing the same shit."

Now say it 1000 times and blame Trump for all your woes and NEVER go off the plantation again or your status as a Nazi is concrete.

Unless you're white...in which case you're a born Nazi and should flog yourself daily for being a slave owning Nazi.

Please don't equate me with a Nazi white nationlists again.

And no I won't repeat after you...the whole tribalism R vs D is seriously the problem in American politics today. Obama wasn't a saint and neither was Bush evil, both had successes and failures in my book. I don't play the tribalism game I calls'em as I sees'em.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Please don't equate me with a Nazi white nationlists again.

And no I won't repeat after you...the whole tribalism R vs D is seriously the problem in American politics today. Obama wasn't a saint and neither was Bush evil, both had successes and failures in my book. I don't play the tribalism game I calls'em as I sees'em.

OHHHHHHHHH SHIT!!!

YOUZ A RACIST ASS NAZI NOW!!!!


LOL I hope you know I was joking about all the Nazi shit.....poking fun at all the "progressives" out there.

 

[Boxlicker101]

That there's an upswing in police brutality can most certainly be laid at Trump's feet. The president of the United States has made statements encouraging police brutality. There are policemen who will jump--and have jumped--at that level of support for brutality.

Can you cite any of those statements and tell us which cops have jumped at that level of support, and when?

 

[KeithD]

Can you cite any of those statements and tell us which cops have jumped at that level of support, and when?

I quickly learned that no one can do anything about or for you. You'll remain as you are.

 

[Hypoxia]

...the whole tribalism R vs D is seriously the problem in American politics today. Obama wasn't a saint and neither was Bush evil, both had successes and failures in my book. I don't play the tribalism game I calls'em as I sees'em.

Tribalism has been the Gup heartbeat for decades now, since Nixon's "Southern Strategy", fawning on a dying demographic with policies detested by most Americans, while building a fact-free alt.reality echo chamber. Divide, suppress, and conquer, that's the game. Inclusion and compromise are anathema. Governance is impossible. Domination is the goal.

Tribes are shifting. Upcoming CA party registration figures are expected to show Dums at 53%, Indys (like me) at 24%, and Gups at 23% -- twice as many Dums as Gups, who are now reduced to third-party status in USA's most populous and prosperous state, the world's 5th largest economy. CA Gups have positioned themselves toward extinction

Partisanship is driven by locale, not principle. Urban centers skew 'liberal' because different peoples must accommodate each other, more so than rurales and suburbanites with no neighbors or foot traffic. I see maps showing Dums 'owning' drastically fewer counties than do Gups, but those few counties house most of the USA's people. They're the real Americans.

Most Americans hate the partisan divide. Given free and fair elections nationally, that divide might shrink while the independent center grows.

 

[someoneyouknow]

Can you cite any of those statements and tell us which cops have jumped at that level of support, and when?

It doesn't rise to the level of brutality, but he has said cops shouldn't be too concerned with criminals when they're arrested:

“Like when you guys put somebody in the car, and you’re protecting their head, you know, the way you put your hand over” their head, he said, putting his hand above his head for emphasis. “I said, ‘You can take the hand away, O.K.?’”​

Police at the gathering did laugh, meaning they agreed with the statement, but various law enforcement agencies came out fully against the comment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/29/nyregion/trump-police-too-nice.html

 

[psiberzerker]

All right, so back to the data set. (Provided by the National Law Enforcement Memorial Fund)

In 2013: 120
2014: 148
2015: 160
2016: 159

Is that a rise in Deaths? Okay, that's not "Killings," it's just deaths.

So, does the Cause now matter?

in 2012 that was 141, and I think we all can agree that 2012 was a violent year, (though not as violent as predicted.)

2 springs in a row is not enough of a data set to prove a correlation, much less causality. It's just 2 numbers cherry-picked to prove a point. It doesn't prove anything. 2 points isn't even enough to draw a triangle.