How To Get To Heaven When You Die

DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS GIFT OF SALVATION BELIEVING HE DIED N ROSE AGAIN FOR YOUR SINS?

  • YES

    Votes: 48 16.4%
  • NO

    Votes: 148 50.5%
  • I ALREADY ACCEPTED JESUS GIFT OF SALVATION BEFORE

    Votes: 62 21.2%
  • OTHER

    Votes: 35 11.9%

  • Total voters
    293
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It was actually both. The Jewish leaders betrayed Him and demanded Rome to crucify Him.
So the imperial occupying forces, who for fun pissed on local Jewish leaders from high places, succumbed to demands of the subject trash? Pilate got bad job reviews for mistreating Jews. That story just doesn't hold together - it's bogus. Gospel writers carefully shifted the blame because annoying Rome would be bad for their health. Crucifixion is what Rome did to pirates, rebels, bandits - "thieves" - not to local squabblers. Crosses were low so dogs would eat the unburied, unsanctified corpses, for the ultimate eternal disrespect. The gospel story doesn't fit facts.
 
Looks pretty white to me.
He'd better look like a dirty little Semite or he's bogus. Yasser Arafat would be a good likeness. But since a Roman crucifixion left the body for dogs to scavenge, not much is left to cover with a shroud. Does the shroud image show chew marks?
 
So the imperial occupying forces, who for fun pissed on local Jewish leaders from high places, succumbed to demands of the subject trash? Pilate got bad job reviews for mistreating Jews. That story just doesn't hold together - it's bogus. Gospel writers carefully shifted the blame because annoying Rome would be bad for their health. Crucifixion is what Rome did to pirates, rebels, bandits - "thieves" - not to local squabblers. Crosses were low so dogs would eat the unburied, unsanctified corpses, for the ultimate eternal disrespect. The gospel story doesn't fit facts.

Yep. I will believe the eyewitnesses who were actually there over you.
 
Faith

I believe. Many have tried to destroy me. Many have tried to take away my faith. ALL have failed. Like Jesus before me, I am a rebel. I shall not fail. I am never alone.
 
Yep. I will believe the eyewitnesses who were actually there over you.
What eyewitnesses? You can point to no firsthand accounts, only hearsay recorded decades later. And there's no corroboration, not for any bit of the supposed godling's supposed existence. I accept contemporary records, not your much-edited hearsay spinning an alternate universe tale.
 
I believe. Many have tried to destroy me. Many have tried to take away my faith. ALL have failed. Like Jesus before me, I am a rebel. I shall not fail. I am never alone.

Your faith needs to be in Jesus for He cannot fail. He is the one who can save you, you cannot save yourself.
 
Matthew 26:11 For you always have the poor with you, but you will not always have me.

Mark 14:7 For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you want, you can do good for them. But you will not always have me.

John 12:8 For the poor you always have with you, but you do not always have me.

That pretty much says it all. Jesus is gone, and we don't have him any more.
 
How? I think the 1st step would be NOT being a member of a website such as this LOL


OP and everyone in this thread is a hypocrite lol :rolleyes:
 
Glad to be one. :D

If you were a typical Christian Xfrodo you would be either Roman Catholic or Catholic Orthodox as they make up the vast majority of professed Christians. And I suspect you are not.:)
 
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Matthew 26:11 For you always have the poor with you, but you will not always have me.

Mark 14:7 For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you want, you can do good for them. But you will not always have me.

John 12:8 For the poor you always have with you, but you do not always have me.

That pretty much says it all. Jesus is gone, and we don't have him any more.

He will return.....until then enjoy the Holy Spirit. (3 IN 1):cool:
 
I used to own a beat-up trombone. That's a long slide trumpet; both have tubular bores, unlike the conical bores of horns. At new years', or whenever I was drunk enough, I stepped out on the veranda and blasted away with notes echoing up and down our long, steep valley. Yes, I was the source of "mystery trumpet sounds from the sky" in wine country. You may worship me now.
 
Nope. Could be. Or it could be a natural phenomenon.
Or it could be a guy with a trumpet or valve trombone blasting away like I did. You can worship me now. I'm ready. I like my offerings small, valuable, and negotiable, same as your regular 10% tithe-taker. 7% is sufficient for me; I'm not greedy.
 
Or it could be a guy with a trumpet or valve trombone blasting away like I did. You can worship me now. I'm ready. I like my offerings small, valuable, and negotiable, same as your regular 10% tithe-taker. 7% is sufficient for me; I'm not greedy.

I don't think so.
 
PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES.

ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

It all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store; it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Lying, stealing, sex before marriage, pride, hatred, ect. Are all sins. Hell is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already sinned, which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the President can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die. You won’t have to pay for your own sins because Jesus already did that for you. But if you reject the pardon that He offers, you will have to pay for your own sins by going to hell.

3. If you will confess Jesus Christ is the Lord and in Faith, Believe in your heart that He died and rose again for your sins, you will be saved.

Eph 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through trusting in what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you in faith.

Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS? ARE YOU WILLING TO PLACE YOUR FAITH IN HIM FOR SALVATION?

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

4. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, you could place your faith in Jesus Christ for salvation by praying this simple prayer:

”Dear Lord Jesus I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I humbly open my heart and place my Faith in You as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”

If from your heart, you have prayed that prayer, truly placing your faith in Christ for salvation, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.

Please read this first post if you haven't yet and vote in the poll.
 
Sigh, not this stupid argument again. "God" turned his back on man when he threw them out of Eden. In Revelations we all will rise from our graves and be separated into goats and sheep ( why the goats get the rough end of the stick I don't know, something to do with Pan?). So even according to the New Testament no one's in heaven or hell. Keep in mind the New Testament is a bastardized version of the bible and the old testament was passed down by word of mouth for generations so it's like a giant game of telephone. People added and subtracted bits they didn't like when it was being hand written and when printed versions became available, depending on the morals of the time.
The Torah, or the Old Testament make no mention of hell. According to the Tao if there is no hell there can be no heaven, life is a balance, there must be pain to feel pleasure.

http://www.thehypertexts.com/No Hell in the Bible.htm

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.haa...m-what-is-the-jewish-afterlife-like-1.5362876

To end on a light note:
There's a Jewish joke that says there's no Heaven or Hell: we all go to the same place when we die, where Moses and Rabbi Akiva give constant and everlasting classes on the Bible and the Talmud. For the righteous this is eternal bliss, while for the wicked this is eternal suffering.
 
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Sigh, not this stupid argument again. "God" turned his back on man when he threw them out of Eden. In Revelations we all will rise from our graves and be separated into goats and sheep ( why the goats get the rough end of the stick I don't know, something to do with Pan?). So even according to the New Testament no one's in heaven or hell. Keep in mind the New Testament is a bastardized version of the bible and the old testament was passed down by word of mouth for generations so it's like a giant game of telephone. People added and subtracted bits they didn't like when it was being hand written and when printed versions became available, depending on the morals of the time.
The Torah, or the Old Testament make no mention of hell. According to the Tao if there is no hell there can be no heaven, life is a balance, there must be pain to feel pleasure.

http://www.thehypertexts.com/No Hell in the Bible.htm

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.haa...m-what-is-the-jewish-afterlife-like-1.5362876

To end on a light note:
There's a Jewish joke that says there's no Heaven or Hell: we all go to the same place when we die, where Moses and Rabbi Akiva give constant and everlasting classes on the Bible and the Talmud. For the righteous this is eternal bliss, while for the wicked this is eternal suffering.

God never turned His back on man. If that were true, He wouldn't have send His only Son Jesus to die for all of mankind. The New Testament is God's word just as much as the Old Testament. Jesus Christ fulfilled hundreds of prophecies written of Him in the Old Testament.
 
God never turned His back on man. If that were true, He wouldn't have send His only Son Jesus to die for all of mankind. The New Testament is God's word just as much as the Old Testament. Jesus Christ fulfilled hundreds of prophecies written of Him in the Old Testament.

If She/He were here, She/He wouldn't have had to send some long haired socialist to represent Her/Him. The New Testament wasn't written by Maud/God. Sheesh.
There is no mention of Jesus in the Old Testament. You do know that, right?
 
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If She/He were here, She/He wouldn't have had to send some long haired socialist to represent Her/Him. The New Testament wasn't written by Maud/God. Sheesh.
There is no mention of Jesus in the Old Testament. You do know that, right?

I have never understood how someone could look at the Old Testament prophecy for the coming of the Lord and Messiah and not see that Jesus fullfilled them. To each his own..... to me if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it must be....................... a duck. ;)
 
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