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Don't be surprised if your doctor asks you about guns

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sd-me-gun-health-20180415-story.html

The Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of California Davis has launched a new tool kit for doctors and nurses that teaches them how to gently introduce the topic of guns into the conversation, with a special emphasis on spotting red flags that could indicate risks for suicide, domestic violence, homicide or child access to guns.

Guns?:confused: What Guns? Y'all robbing me already!:rolleyes:
 
I remember when my youngest brother came home from grade school asking all kinds of questions about our sewer system.

After finding out the school required the kids to make a drawing of the sewer systems at home for the school to turn into the state my parents had my brother a little younger them myself set down and draw a first class diagram of the perfect sewer system for living out in the country.

Then the State dispatched people to inspect and fine people who were not in compliance with the state code based on the evidence of the drawings.

Guns?:confused: What Guns?:confused:
 
There's no law says the patient has to answer so don't worry about it. Don't like the questions your doctor asks, see another doctor.
 
Older data but significant:
Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually. In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 U.S. citizens), and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 U.S. citizens). These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides, 21,175 suicides, 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent". Of the 2,596,993 total deaths in the US in 2013, 1.3% were related to firearms...

In 2012, there were 8,855 total firearm-related homicides in the US, with 6,371 of those attributed to handguns. In 2012, 64% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides. In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S. In 2010, 358 murders were reported involving a rifle while 6,009 were reported involving a handgun; another 1,939 were reported with an unspecified type of firearm.

Firearms were used to kill 13,286 people in the U.S. in 2015, excluding suicide. Approximately 1.4 million people have been killed using firearms in the U.S. between 1968 and 2011. This number includes all deaths resulting from a firearm, including suicides, homicides, and accidents.

Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher. Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, the U.S. had 82 percent of all gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed with guns. In 2010, gun violence cost U.S. taxpayers approximately $516 million in direct hospital costs.

Gun violence is most common in poor urban areas and frequently associated with gang violence, often involving male juveniles or young adult males. Although mass shootings have been covered extensively in the media, mass shootings in the US account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths and the frequency of these events steadily declined between 1994 and 2007, rising between 2007 and 2013.
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Suicides account for ~2/3 of USA firearms deaths. USAnians are thus twice as likely to shoot themselves than be shot by another. "Suicide is painless; it brings on many changes." Right.
 
Oh I would NEVER have any of those dangerous things about...they are TERRIFYING!!!


:cool:
 
Hypoxia said:
Older data but significant:
Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually. In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 U.S. citizens), and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 U.S. citizens). These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides, 21,175 suicides, 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent". Of the 2,596,993 total deaths in the US in 2013, 1.3% were related to firearms...

In 2012, there were 8,855 total firearm-related homicides in the US, with 6,371 of those attributed to handguns. In 2012, 64% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides. In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S. In 2010, 358 murders were reported involving a rifle while 6,009 were reported involving a handgun; another 1,939 were reported with an unspecified type of firearm.

Firearms were used to kill 13,286 people in the U.S. in 2015, excluding suicide. Approximately 1.4 million people have been killed using firearms in the U.S. between 1968 and 2011. This number includes all deaths resulting from a firearm, including suicides, homicides, and accidents.

Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher. Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, the U.S. had 82 percent of all gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed with guns. In 2010, gun violence cost U.S. taxpayers approximately $516 million in direct hospital costs.

Gun violence is most common in poor urban areas and frequently associated with gang violence, often involving male juveniles or young adult males. Although mass shootings have been covered extensively in the media, mass shootings in the US account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths and the frequency of these events steadily declined between 1994 and 2007, rising between 2007 and 2013.
Suicides account for ~2/3 of USA firearms deaths. USAnians are thus twice as likely to shoot themselves than be shot by another. "Suicide is painless; it brings on many changes." Right.
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Why is it your figures exclude justifiable shootings, such as in self-defense? :(
 
Paranoid?

FGB said:
I remember when my youngest brother came home from grade school asking all kinds of questions about our sewer system.

After finding out the school required the kids to make a drawing of the sewer systems at home for the school to turn into the state my parents had my brother a little younger them myself set down and draw a first class diagram of the perfect sewer system for living out in the country.

Then the State dispatched people to inspect and fine people who were not in compliance with the state code based on the evidence of the drawings.

Guns?:confused: What Guns?:confused:
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You sound a little paranoid. I have never encountered any such situation, and most septic systems are regulated though the counties or local government, not at the state level. But, who the hell knows, maybe your family was indeed the hapless victim of state-level Gestapo members getting innocent kids to provide "evidence" that their parents are violating poo-poo processing regulations.

Regarding the gun thing, don't sweat it. Suicide, depression, and mental illness mitigation are big health issues right now. Like another poster indicated, you are not required to answer questions. Good doctors would be feeling out mental health problems, not hoping to turn you in to a Gestapo, either real or imagined. However, if you do find yourself drowning in paranoia, consider talking to your doctor or another mental health professional about it.
 
This started about 4 years ago and the backlash was so great, then, they stopped asking.
 
Just a reminder to any and all, before a doctor can ask you about guns in your home, they have to provide you with the Miranda warning, and provide for the presence of a lawyer. Should they fail to do so, you can sue the ever loving shit out of them till they regret the day they were ever born.
 
I won't be surprised. I'm just there for a checkup and to be stuck in the ass w/someone's finger.

"I'm not a Doctor Jim! I'm just a cowboy who happens to have a gun somewhere!"

Saint_Ann said:
They also ask if you feel safe in your home.
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Head docs do that now. I just wanted to know what's in my head, not my house.

Saint_Ann said:
So when they ask Grandma about her AR-15 collection...
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She'll be comin' out w/a double barrelled .12 gauge shotgun. Screaming, "I done told you I don't know how many times, you can't have my AR-15!" "What's that thing ever done to you? It ain't my fault some idiot went off and shot those innocent little children. Those children never hurt a soul. But if you want my AR-15 THAT bad. Well then......" Grandma locks and loads, then aims very carefully at her intended target.
 
I have always been under the impression that conversation between doctors and patients is privileged.
 
coachdb18 said:
Just a reminder to any and all, before a doctor can ask you about guns in your home, they have to provide you with the Miranda warning, and provide for the presence of a lawyer. Should they fail to do so, you can sue the ever loving shit out of them till they regret the day they were ever born.
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Boy, the paranoia is running fast and deep on this thread!

Just a heads-up, Miranda warnings are issued by law enforcement officials when an arrest is being made.
 
Boxlicker101 said:
I have always been under the impression that conversation between doctors and patients is privileged.
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I believe it still is. There's always someone who finds a way to interfere for personal gain only that "someone" can understand.
 
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