Moonbeam Joins The Trump Team

Didn't read the details, did ya? Sad. "By agreeing to the deployment and negotiating rules of engagement for the California National Guard, Brown would remain in command of the troops - rather than ceding that control to Trump should the president seek to federalize the Guard." http://www.capradio.org/112867 Who's the smart one here?

BTW Gov Brown is 'moonbean' because he pushed satellite news broadcasts, an idea Ted Turner picked up and turned into CNN. I guess Gov Brown is thus ultimately responsible for FauxNewz FTW.
 
Well he got himself some federal funding and still thumbed his nose at Trump. The Guard will be on a mission to help with human trafficking, drugs, and other major crimes but will not help with immigration.

Since there is no funding for a major new wall, those ugly prototypes will probably still be standing thirty years from now. Our own version of Stonehenge?
 
I thought Moonbeam was Jared Kushner's Secret Service codename.
 
Since there is no funding for a major new wall, those ugly prototypes will probably still be standing thirty years from now. Our own version of Stonehenge?
You can see a fine reproduction at Maryhill, Washington.
 
Well he got himself some federal funding and still thumbed his nose at Trump. The Guard will be on a mission to help with human trafficking, drugs, and other major crimes but will not help with immigration.

Since there is no funding for a major new wall, those ugly prototypes will probably still be standing thirty years from now. Our own version of Stonehenge?
More like Ozymandias.
 
Didn't read the details, did ya? Sad. "By agreeing to the deployment and negotiating rules of engagement for the California National Guard, Brown would remain in command of the troops - rather than ceding that control to Trump should the president seek to federalize the Guard." http://www.capradio.org/112867 Who's the smart one here?
Not the author of your cite. Well, he may be smart but he's got a hefty dose of ignorance in his implications about Trump being able to perform this mission with federal troops.

There are three ways to activate the Guard. One is state active duty where the troops are both funded and controlled by the state. Title 32 allows the federal government to request a governor activate troops and provide funding. In both those cases the Governor is fully in control as their Command In Chief. Posse Commitatus, which contrains federal troops roles inside the US, does not apply in either of those two cases. The third is to mobilize units onto federal active duty. They are then federal troops and constrained by all the legal limits, including Posse Commitatus.

While there might be some small support pieces that could be legally justified as DSCA (Defense Support for Civil Authorities) the major pieces of the mission requested are clearly illegal for federal troops. That's why both Bush and Obama utilized Title 32 to have the National Guard perform the same tasks. (Bush even used the NG under Title 32 at some Canadian border crossings after 9-11.) Trump couldn't simply federalize the Guard and do those things if Brown said no. Trying would likely present a pretty clear case for tthe troops to reffuse to follow unlawful orders. It's also a pretty easy court case to get stopped.

There's also the simpler argument that even a reporter ignorant of how the military works should have caught. If Trump could have legally performed the mission with federal troops, he still could. Brown's move does not constrain him at all. Trump can still mobilize units of the CA Guard for the mission. He also controls all the current federal forces as well.

The notion that Brown's agreement was to prevent the mission happening under federal control is silly.
 
There has to be some kind of genius at work here. It's more than "reaching across the isle".

It's 1 thing for allies or friends to pair up, but when alleged enemies become a team to combat a common enemy - that can be a very potent and dangerous thing. I mean between Trump and Brown in this scenario.
 
Well he got himself some federal funding and still thumbed his nose at Trump. The Guard will be on a mission to help with human trafficking, drugs, and other major crimes but will not help with immigration.

Since there is no funding for a major new wall, those ugly prototypes will probably still be standing thirty years from now. Our own version of Stonehenge?

Looks like some insightful inner circle stuff going on. Improvising at the highest, or lowest, level(s). It's long been a problem along the border. Any border state can tell us that.

Why should it become so important after dead people start showing up in people's yards? After all the kidnappings, drug deals, immigration issues, and human trafficking?
 
I thought Moonbeam was Jared Kushner's Secret Service codename.
I thought that was 'MoonPie'. :cool:

'Moonbeam' was what Jerry Brown's then-squeeze Linda Ronstadt called him because he was so bright, especially at night. That was before he invented satellite TV news for Ted Turner.
 
I thought that was 'MoonPie'. :cool:

'Moonbeam' was what Jerry Brown's then-squeeze Linda Ronstadt called him because he was so bright, especially at night. That was before he invented satellite TV news for Ted Turner.

Really? I mean, wow. I remember when Turner started out with billboards. Rather I learned so from my mom. I think his dad became a drunk. Turner took over a bankrupt business seriously in debt and turned it around. Turner kept doing that sort of thing until he helped start CNN and was well into a Time Warner merger w/Turner Broadcasting.

People think Turner's wealth was inherited from his dad. He was in debt long before he came out of the gate and turned things around. He and his dad never got along. I think he dabbles in politics in some way.

Turner used to own the Atlanta Braves, but fans didn't like his interference. Turner was so emotional in those days and subject to fits of anger in public. After the divorce from Jane Fonda, Turner's retired somewhere in Montana and doing things with buffalo and some type of farmer's co-op.
 
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