Why does anyone NEED an assault rifle?

[BotanyBoy]

They provide a definition of the CLASS OF WEAPONS ("ARMS") they are prohibiting the manufacture and sale of (i.e. BANNING).

Based upon features (accessories) not by action or actual class of weapons (single action, Semi-Auto, select fire, full auto) because you can't do that.

. They banned SOME guns. Not unconstitutional.

No they banned some features.

Leaving all the semi-auto NOT *assault* rifles (AR15's without the accessories) legal.

Because banning guns is unconstitutional, if you want to have the effect you're looking for then you'll have to ban all semi-autos.

Best of luck with that!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Meanwhile, there are teens and first graders who ARE getting shot and murdered right now, in the present, and they want to do nothing.

Wong, they do want to do something, just not ban guns.

That is why it is perfectly appropriate to call them child-killers and selfish assholes, and to wish a pox upon their houses, ie. that their own precious hides get caught up in a shooting spree.

No, that's just you being an over emotional jerk.

 

[My I]

A point about gun nuts.

They whine and complain about needing guns to 'defend' themselves for their own precious protection, just in case some day in the future, a black man in a hoodie breaks into their sacred home.

Meanwhile, there are teens and first graders who ARE getting shot and murdered right now, in the present, and they want to do nothing.

MY paranoia about what could possibly happen to ME is more precious than the reality of what IS happening to THOSE people.

That is why it is perfectly appropriate to call them child-killers and selfish assholes, and to wish a pox upon their houses, ie. that their own precious hides get caught up in a shooting spree.

First of all what is a "Gun Nut"? Is that like a pistachio? Or more like a pecan?

Second, gun OWNERS do not whine and cry. That's the Libs you're thinking of where everything is based on "visceral emotional response" instead of anything resembling rational or reasonable.

The last part just shows how delusional and unstable you are. Seek help for the good of society.

Oh,... The whole child killers thing was worn out it the 70 and 80s. I know, before you were born but still it went out of fashion with your grandparents because it was only making them look stupid. Do you really want to make the same mistake?

 

[coachdb18]

Wong, they do want to do something, just not ban guns.



No, that's just you being an over emotional jerk.

If they want to go the ‘child killer’ namecalling route, we may need to post more of those abortion clinic photos again... or do they just wish to concede the point that, having killed a few MILLION babies, it’s not much in dispute who can wipe kids out faster than a Nazi holocaust.

 

[phrodeau]

Maryland HS shooting

1. Maryland has STRICT gun control.

2. NO "Assault Weapons" used.

3. One dead. (The Shooter), Two injured.

4. Good guy with a gun in the school stopped the shooter.

Report today says that the shooter killed himself. So I guess he was the good guy you referred to.

 

[Tigersman]

Based upon features (accessories) not by action or actual class of weapons (single action, Semi-Auto, select fire, full auto) because you can't do that.



No they banned some features.

Leaving all the semi-auto NOT *assault* rifles (AR15's without the accessories) legal.

Because banning guns is unconstitutional, if you want to have the effect you're looking for then you'll have to ban all semi-autos.

Best of luck with that!

The federal government has banned successfully one type of gun, the Thompson sub machine gun and the Uzi.

 

[coachdb18]

As long as we’re stripping the Bill of Rights, why don’t we begin by stripping people (libtards, since they don’t cherish their rights anyway, after all it’s just some old outdated document, right?) of their FIRST amendment rights FIRST, and watch every cretinous treasonous libtard that ever slithered out from under his rock to threaten banning guns to wish for the day he had a gun to defend his right to speak freely!

 

[BotanyBoy]

The federal government has banned successfully one type of gun, the Thompson sub machine gun and the Uzi.

LOL no they didn't, my dad has a mil spec M1928 SMG, I've fired about 4,500 rounds through it in his back yard.

Here is a fully transferable NFA Thompson for 22,500$ starting bid...

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/759816978

Oh and Uzi's....even cheaper.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/760476119


And GBroker isn't the only spot with them for sale, a google will find you several other sites.

Where do you people come up with this shit??

 

[BotanyBoy]

As long as we’re stripping the Bill of Rights, why don’t we begin by stripping people (libtards, since they don’t cherish their rights anyway, after all it’s just some old outdated document, right?) of their FIRST amendment rights FIRST, and watch every cretinous treasonous libtard that ever slithered out from under his rock to threaten banning guns to wish for the day he had a gun to defend his right to speak freely!

They are already on board with that, haven't you been paying attention?

Hate speech (shit progressive (D)'s don't like) isn't free speech!!!

In the UK they prosecute people for being offensive, we can do it too, it's PROGRESS.

 

[coachdb18]

The government’s dirty little secret when it comes to gun sales, is the same as with cigarettes (remember, this is ALL under ATF), they don’t WANT the gun sales to stop any more than they want people to stop smoking, because the government takes in TAXES on every sale! In the case of cigarettes, it’s about 50% taxes and 50% product when you buy a pack). So do they want to ban guns? No they don’t, any more than the Surgeon General and ObamaCare give a shit about your cancer. The government ONLY cares about taxation, and if you don’t understand that’s how we’ Gotten the bloated beast of a government we have, you haven’t been paying attention. Here’s a shocker, Libs. The government you trust so completely to ‘do the right thing’ thinks only of cancer and bullet holes as collateral damage for the taxes it collects. It could really not give less of a fuck about you if it tried.

 

[JackLuis]

The issue is why do we have the size firearms industry we have now? I mean with 300 million guns in the country now, how many more do we really need?

The AR-XXX family has been a successful design after being modified to correct some issues in the original Armlite AR-16. John Browning would have been proud of it. It is reasonably easy to manufacture and inexpensive compared to other designs of similar quality. It has low recoil and good ergonomics and enough power to be lethal.
However:
All the performance comes with the responsibility to not abuse the power, with any firearm. And since any asshole can shoot it easily it needs to be kept out of the reach of real assholes.

I propose that the sentence for use of a firearm that causes loss of life, to be shot in the back of the head, twice with the firearm that was complicit in the offense and then the body and the gun be deep six'd beyond the Continental shelf on the coast closest to the state of the offense.

Arms dealers found at odds with the law should get their ass handed to them. This shit is serious folks!

 

[coachdb18]

The issue is why do we have the size firearms industry we have now? I mean with 300 million guns in the country now, how many more do we really need?

The AR-XXX family has been a successful design after being modified to correct some issues in the original Armlite AR-16. John Browning would have been proud of it. It is reasonably easy to manufacture and inexpensive compared to other designs of similar quality. It has low recoil and good ergonomics and enough power to be lethal.
However:
All the performance comes with the responsibility to not abuse the power, with any firearm. And since any asshole can shoot it easily it needs to be kept out of the reach of real assholes.

I propose that the sentence for use of a firearm that causes loss of life, to be shot in the back of the head, twice with the firearm that was complicit in the offense and then the body and the gun be deep six'd beyond the Continental shelf on the coast closest to the state of the offense.

Arms dealers found at odds with the law should get their ass handed to them. This shit is serious folks!

The US government is itself the biggest arms dealer in the world. Period. Or didn’t you watch ‘War Dogs’?

 

[Carnal_Flower]

How many times can it be stated?

Could you buy (x,y,z) before the Assault ban? Yes

Could you buy the same gun after the assault ban? No.

-----> Gun Ban not ruled unconstitutional. Not in violation of the 2nd Amendment. The Assault Weapons Ban Banned Some Guns.

Based upon features (accessories) not by action or actual class of weapons (single action, Semi-Auto, select fire, full auto) because you can't do that.



No they banned some features.

Leaving all the semi-auto NOT *assault* rifles (AR15's without the accessories) legal.

Because banning guns is unconstitutional, if you want to have the effect you're looking for then you'll have to ban all semi-autos.

Best of luck with that!

 

[coachdb18]

Bottom line, the US government makes a shitload on taxes through gun sales, and the entire ATF isn’t going to be less of a government cash cow any time soon. It’s more likely the ATF will take on the abortion industry as one of its regulatory responsibilities, and funnel tax dollars from Planned Parenthood to the NRA, than that the government would end the Second Amendment. You want Big Government, just remember it has a big appetite, and it doesn’t care what or who it eats.

 

[BotanyBoy]

How many times can it be stated?

Could you buy (x,y,z) before the Assault ban? Yes

Could you buy the same gun after the assault ban? No.

That's just it, you can buy the same gun.
https://ii.cheaperthandirt.com/fcgi-bin/iipsrv.fcgi?FIF=/images/cheaperthandirt/source/2-fmkgar1ede_1.tif&wid=575&cvt=jpeg

^^ 50 state legal...because 2A says you can't ban it.

You can ban accessories for it...but not the actual gun itself.

I even brought one of my AR's from Texas to California despite their "assault" weapons ban... just had to change the accessories on it to be complaint with their "assault weapons ban" .....that bans features, not guns.

-----> Gun Ban not ruled unconstitutional. Not in violation of the 2nd Amendment. The Assault Weapons Ban Banned Some Guns.

For the umpteenth time, it's because it doesn't ban guns.

It just bans certain accessories.

Because banning guns violates the 2nd Amendment.

That's why despite California's best attempts....laws after piles of laws....still got (not)AR-15's here.

Like the ones I linked....every bit as dangerous as the "assault" version with the banned accessories, because it's still a mag fed semi-automatic .223cal/5.56NATO rifle.

 

[coachdb18]

That's just it, you can buy the same gun.
https://ii.cheaperthandirt.com/fcgi-bin/iipsrv.fcgi?FIF=/images/cheaperthandirt/source/2-fmkgar1ede_1.tif&wid=575&cvt=jpeg

^^ 50 state legal...because 2A says you can't ban it.

You can ban accessories for it...but not the actual gun itself.

I even brought one of my AR's from Texas to California despite their "assault" weapons ban... just had to change the accessories on it to be complaint with their "assault weapons ban" .....that bans features, not guns.



For the umpteenth time, it's because it doesn't ban guns.

It just bans certain accessories.

Because banning guns violates the 2nd Amendment.

That's why despite California's best attempts....laws after piles of laws....still got (not)AR-15's here.

Like the ones I linked....every bit as dangerous as the "assault" version with the banned accessories, because it's still a mag fed semi-automatic .223cal/5.56NATO rifle.

So at least when a snowflake takes a round in the ass from a ‘not an assault rifle ‘, they won’t have that terrified look in their eye LOLOL

 

[Hypoxia]

First of all what is a "Gun Nut"?

I think people who wish to and / or do assemble working arsenals for their own satisfaction qualify.

I own many lutes, cameras and lenses, and Indian pots. I would like to own many zithers, synthesizers, and boots. None of that stuff was or are vital for our survival; they're all for satisfaction, for fun. I'm not ashamed to be called a music-photo-pottery-footwear nut. I revel in LAS (lens acquisition syndrome), MAS (mandolin acquisition syndrome), and being a pothead.

We thinned our firearms stash a few years back because we're not gun nuts and they weren't necessary. My partner's dad owned an extensive arsenal. He was not a gun nut. He was a cop. He had justification and training for those weapons. Most civilians don't.

Gun nuts, guitar nuts, camera nuts, shoe nuts, own and feel emotionally tied to unneeded guns, guitars, cameras, shoes . That's the diagnostic.

 

[Captainnumnuts]

I think people who wish to and / or do assemble working arsenals for their own satisfaction qualify.

I own many lutes, cameras and lenses, and Indian pots. I would like to own many zithers, synthesizers, and boots. None of that stuff was or are vital for our survival; they're all for satisfaction, for fun. I'm not ashamed to be called a music-photo-pottery-footwear nut. I revel in LAS (lens acquisition syndrome), MAS (mandolin acquisition syndrome), and being a pothead.

We thinned our firearms stash a few years back because we're not gun nuts and they weren't necessary. My partner's dad owned an extensive arsenal. He was not a gun nut. He was a cop. He had justification and training for those weapons. Most civilians don't.

Gun nuts, guitar nuts, camera nuts, shoe nuts, own and feel emotionally tied to unneeded guns, guitars, cameras, shoes . That's the diagnostic.

I agree and believe that.

Amazing what I learn and take away from your posts. Confusing to some, but not to me.

But don't get your hopes up - the comical, witty, narcissism award goes to me.

 

[Hypoxia]

Amazing what I learn and take away from your posts. Confusing to some, but not to me.

I may aim for clarity and/or absurdity and/or insight but I'm satisfied with orthography.

 

[Captainnumnuts]

... orthography.

I had to look that up. I should know it well by now. Don't shoot me.

 

[My I]

I think people who wish to and / or do assemble working arsenals for their own satisfaction qualify.

I own many lutes, cameras and lenses, and Indian pots. I would like to own many zithers, synthesizers, and boots. None of that stuff was or are vital for our survival; they're all for satisfaction, for fun. I'm not ashamed to be called a music-photo-pottery-footwear nut. I revel in LAS (lens acquisition syndrome), MAS (mandolin acquisition syndrome), and being a pothead.

We thinned our firearms stash a few years back because we're not gun nuts and they weren't necessary. My partner's dad owned an extensive arsenal. He was not a gun nut. He was a cop. He had justification and training for those weapons. Most civilians don't.

Gun nuts, guitar nuts, camera nuts, shoe nuts, own and feel emotionally tied to unneeded guns, guitars, cameras, shoes . That's the diagnostic.

Wow. You not only said something rational and reasonable, but I actually agree with it. (I'm assuming by "pothead" you meant your Indian/Native American pottery)

This is something I have said for a long time. I don't judge women who collect Barbie dolls, nor men who collect Hot Wheels cars. I am personally not much of a collector. I keep things because I need them or they have sentimental value.

I BUILD guitars. I do not have a collection. I have built somewhere around 70 of them, I have kept two.

I BUILD knives. I do not have a collection. I have about a dozen, some were knives my Dad built, some are my own, some are prototypes from other companies like Benchmade or Darrell Ralph.

I BUILD guns. Mostly 1911 pistols for competition. I do not have an "arsenal". I have 3 rifles, none of them semi-auto. Two of them are 1898 Mausers that my Dad and I built and customized together. I have 5 handguns. 3 I built myself, and 3 I use for competition only.

But I am not a collector. I do not judge those who collect anything. (ok, used condoms, maybe) Everyone needs a hobby. Something they can put time, focus and money into. For if we live a totally utilitarian lifestyle, we are not "Living" any more than a mule.

I like to shoot. Especially in competition. It recenters me and keeps my anger and aggression in check. NO. It is not from the big boom and the power and ego trip all the other liberal horeshit I hear. It's the mental and physical discipline and mental focus required to shoot well in a match that pushes everything thing else out of my head for a while and lets me slowly filter it back into a clear head that helps me deal with it. I get a HUGE amount of satisfaction when I do well in a match. Because it was the culmination of my shooting skills, my craftsmanship building the gun and making the ammo. I won that match.

Let me ask you: Does that sound like I'm crazy or unstable? Homicidal? Psychotic?

Guns fascinate me. The people who designed some of them were absolute genius in the literal sense of the word. I think the ARs are a brilliant design, as are the AKs. Do I need one? Nope. If I shot 3-gun competitions I might but I don't. I still appreciate them. And I understand the people who own them and why.

So, collect what you want. Be proud of your collection, no matter WHAT it is. But for God's sake don't go around judging people because you don't like their hobby. There are a hell of a LOT of things in this world I don't like. But I'm not out to ban them. It's their business, not mine.

 

[phrodeau]

Some people collect child porn for its historic and cultural value. Doesn’t mean they should be allowed to.

 

[coachdb18]

I agree and believe that.

Amazing what I learn and take away from your posts. Confusing to some, but not to me.

But don't get your hopes up - the comical, witty, narcissism award goes to me.

Justification is not a necessity to own a gun in America. The SCOTUS made that very clear by reversing some ‘show me why you need it’ laws. Bout damned time!

 

[Hypoxia]

Wow. You not only said something rational and reasonable, but I actually agree with it. (I'm assuming by "pothead" you meant your Indian/Native American pottery)

Bingo. At least I'm not a bottom-feeder. Those folks, first thing, pick up a pot and flip it over to read the price tag and signature. I fondle a bit first, THEN flip it.

Let me ask you: Does that sound like I'm crazy or unstable? Homicidal? Psychotic?

I've said nothing against folks privately possessing firearms. Be a gun nut at home. See if I care. But carrying in public is another matter and MUST be strictly regulated. And alas, weapons kept at home are too likely to be used by and on someone in the home. Unsecured weapons kill the innocent. Must society tolerate this?

Some people collect child porn for its historic and cultural value. Doesn’t mean they should be allowed to.

I'm suspicious of anyone stashing old NatGeo's. All those topless natives...

Justification is not a necessity to own a gun in America. The SCOTUS made that very clear by reversing some ‘show me why you need it’ laws. Bout damned time!

Oh fuck, it's the Kim-sucking traitor again.

So SCOTUS has never reversed or altered its rulings? And things will never change, until your master Kim nukes L.A.? Sorry, reality ain't like that. You should take refuge in DPRK before your fantasies totally disable you.

 

[Captainnumnuts]

Justification is not a necessity to own a gun in America. The SCOTUS made that very clear by reversing some ‘show me why you need it’ laws. Bout damned time!

Oh yeah. I agree w/that too. At least you took time to check it out for yourself. Which is more than one can say for most folks. Even those kids victimized by the Parkland school shooting in Fla. understand that.