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melimelissa said:
This is gross and exploitative - sex should be about joy and happiness not inflicting self evident misery - what a shame to post this abuse of a poor, wretched woman.

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Méli Mélo
#metoo
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Okay, let's talk #metoo for a moment. Not going to be a fun post here, tw for discussion of RL abuse.

One of my favourite movies of all time is "Frida". I'll watch just about anything with Salma Hayek in it (maybe not "Sausage Party") but this is maybe her best. Frida Kahlo was bisexual, and there are a couple of scenes in the film which explore that. The sex portrayed in those scenes is completely consensual: no BDSM, no coercion, just consensual passion between two women who are very much into one another. I loved the whole film, I would've loved it without those scenes, but they certainly didn't detract from my enjoyment.

Late last year, I read Salma Hayek's account of making that movie. From that I learned that during the making of that movie she'd been subjected to absolutely vile abuse by Harvey Weinstein, that he had effectively blackmailed her into shooting those scenes, and that she'd been so upset that she was crying and vomiting on set and had to take a tranquilizer to get through them. The sex portrayed was consensual, but the RL story behind why those scenes were filmed was anything but.

When I watched the film, I didn't pick up any of that. Not a trace. Because Hayek is an actress, and feigning emotions (with her director and editor's help) is her job. The whole industry is about creating illusions.

This goes both ways. Scenes that look happy and consensual may have been miserable and exploitative; scenes that look like "self evident misery" may have been happy fun for all concerned. Not every actress who cries on screen is actually sad.

If you want to try to ensure that the porn you watch/buy is ethically produced, and that the performers are all happy consenting adults, that's great. I make a point of subscribing to ethically-produced stuff because I want to support that side of the industry, and because I can afford to do so. But don't assume that the degree of happiness/suffering portrayed on screen is at all reflective of what's actually going on for the performers IRL. There is no "self evident" here.
 
Bramblethorn said:
Okay, let's talk #metoo for a moment. Not going to be a fun post here, tw for discussion of RL abuse.

One of my favourite movies of all time is "Frida". I'll watch just about anything with Salma Hayek in it (maybe not "Sausage Party") but this is maybe her best. Frida Kahlo was bisexual, and there are a couple of scenes in the film which explore that. The sex portrayed in those scenes is completely consensual: no BDSM, no coercion, just consensual passion between two women who are very much into one another. I loved the whole film, I would've loved it without those scenes, but they certainly didn't detract from my enjoyment.

Late last year, I read Salma Hayek's account of making that movie. From that I learned that during the making of that movie she'd been subjected to absolutely vile abuse by Harvey Weinstein, that he had effectively blackmailed her into shooting those scenes, and that she'd been so upset that she was crying and vomiting on set and had to take a tranquilizer to get through them. The sex portrayed was consensual, but the RL story behind why those scenes were filmed was anything but.

When I watched the film, I didn't pick up any of that. Not a trace. Because Hayek is an actress, and feigning emotions (with her director and editor's help) is her job. The whole industry is about creating illusions.

This goes both ways. Scenes that look happy and consensual may have been miserable and exploitative; scenes that look like "self evident misery" may have been happy fun for all concerned. Not every actress who cries on screen is actually sad.

If you want to try to ensure that the porn you watch/buy is ethically produced, and that the performers are all happy consenting adults, that's great. I make a point of subscribing to ethically-produced stuff because I want to support that side of the industry, and because I can afford to do so. But don't assume that the degree of happiness/suffering portrayed on screen is at all reflective of what's actually going on for the performers IRL. There is no "self evident" here.
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Well said, as always.
-Fangirl.
 
Well hell then Meli....

melimelissa said:
This is gross and exploitative - sex should be about joy and happiness not inflicting self evident misery - what a shame to post this abuse of a poor, wretched woman.

Sighs

Méli Mélo
#metoo
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Keep off the thread if you dont like it. Welcome to a site where members take delight in many things.
 
cookiecat said:
https://i.imgur.com/lCXzPx7.jpg
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I simply adore this image. Thank you for sharing it, cookiecat. :rose:

Everything about it is just so mmmmmmm

The lighting and angles are just spot on to me, adding so much to the erotically charged atmosphere; showing just the right amount of his face to see that look he's giving her as he watches her, langourously serving his pleasure.

I love the little bit of fuzz covering his well toned torso and how his muscled arms, subtly show his masculine strength, without the need to be a total muscle-bound hulk.

And then there's his hands. Mmm mmm mmm

Yeah, I know you can only see one, but mmmmm, what those thick, strong, manly fingers are doing on the hand you can't see? It's the not seeing that makes this work so much for me. It gets the mind to thinkin' and the creative juices flowing... :cattail:

And speaking of the mind; that bookshelf in the background? A well-read mind is an extremely sexy thing to me, so that just ties this whole image up in a big ole, deliciously sumptuous bow which perfectly captures the essence of what oral servitude is for me: Total sensual pleasure and devotion.

Sure, serving that pleasure may not always look as pretty or erotic as this; some times it's downright dirty and nasty and in your face but, to me it still amounts to the same thing, however you find your way there.

Oh. Yeah. She's pretty sexy too... :rolleyes:

Btw. Hi! I'm nawty. FABulous thread you guys have got going here. Thank you, cookiecat and Farawyn for making it happen and to all the contributors for making this one of the best threads I've found around these parts!

Now, I'm off to surrender myself to 100 pages of devoted servitude... :cattail:
 
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nawtyally said:
I simply adore this image. Thank you for sharing it, cookiecat. :rose:

Everything about it is just so mmmmmmm

The lighting and angles are just spot on to me, adding so much to the erotically charged atmosphere; showing just the right amount of his face to see that look he's giving her as he watches her, langourously serving his pleasure.

I love the little bit of fuzz covering his well toned torso and how his muscled arms, subtly show his masculine strength, without the need to be a total muscle-bound hulk.

And then there's his hands. Mmm mmm mmm

Yeah, I know you can only see one, but mmmmm, what those thick, strong, manly fingers are doing on the hand you can't see? It's the not seeing that makes this work so much for me. It gets the mind to thinkin' and the creative juices flowing... :cattail:

And speaking of the mind; that bookshelf in the background? A well-read mind is an extremely sexy thing to me, so that just ties this whole image up in a big ole, deliciously sumptuous bow which perfectly captures the essence of what oral servitude is for me: Total sensual pleasure and devotion.

Sure, serving that pleasure may not always look as pretty or erotic as this; some times it's downright dirty and nasty and in your face but, to me it still amounts to the same thing, however you find your way there.

Oh. Yeah. She's pretty sexy too... :rolleyes:

Btw. Hi! I'm nawty. FABulous thread you guys have got going here. Thank you, cookiecat and Farawyn for making it happen and to all the contributors for making this one of the best threads I've found around these parts!

Also, a shout out to tallcajun and vibes, for showing me the way... :kiss:

Now, I'm off to surrender myself to 100 pages of devoted servitude... :cattail:
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Welcome! :cattail:
 
dacoach44 said:
the watermark. Who in hell knew?
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I've seen a few folk on Tumblr do it when they post video captures, so it's something I watch out for. Doesn't always work, but did this time!

BTW, I love Salma Hayek too. For sure Weinstein will rot in hell. I wonder if she didnt know of his reputation before she agreed to work for him. I would die and go to Heaven if she would sit on my face.....
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According to her article, "All I knew of Harvey at the time was that he had a remarkable intellect, he was a loyal friend and a family man." Seems like he was pretty good at silencing people, until the story finally broke last year. I'm sure there were rumours, but not everybody has a good connection to the grapevine.
 
cookie...

We couldn't agree with you more.

As my lady friend and "subject" each other to a variety of sexual demands we know that pleasing one another is the goal. All that you mention is part of the joy.

If it feels good...:D

cookiecat said:
I posted it because I enjoy this kind of oral sex.

Bummer you made it about something else. Virtually every picture in the control or the favorite bdsm thread is about (consensual) exploitation. But because it's all airbrushed and pretty, you don't complain.

If you look at the picture posted above mine, he puts a belt around her neck. He puts his hand on the back of her head and pushes her down on to his cock so she can't breathe. Why no complaint about that picture?

Getting facefucked is messy. Sex is messy. Mascara smears. I enjoy it when he holds my nose, makes me open my mouth wider to get more air which then allows him to put his cock in my throat even deeper.

D/s is - for me - getting on my knees and saying yes, I consent to this kind of sex. I want him to be in control. I want to cry. I want to gag, pee, cum.

I want it dirty, messy, sometimes gross, often times uncomfortable. It's not always pink and pretty and comfortable, with me getting exactly what I want when I want it. That - for me - is not submission.

To each his/her own. You don't like the picture, that's fine. If its a trigger, being in the bdsm threads is a tricky place to be, but it's a great place for a discussion.

However, you made a lot of assumptions about this picture and that's an even trickier place to be.
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Bramblethorn said:
http://kiqx.tumblr.com/post/162722289723#notes

(found by searching on the watermark)
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Thank you, Bramblethorn! To be honest, I never even saw the watermark.

Apparently it must be true what they say about going blind if you do to much... um... never mind :eek:

Farawyn said:
Welcome! :cattail:
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Thank you, Farawyn :)

dacoach44 said:
the watermark. Who in hell knew?
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Must have had my focus on something else when I was looking at those gifs, dacoach. Can't for the life of me thing what it was though... :rolleyes:
 
melimelissa said:
This is gross and exploitative - sex should be about joy and happiness not inflicting self evident misery - what a shame to post this abuse of a poor, wretched woman.

Sighs

Méli Mélo
#metoo
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I'm sorry, I know the folks on this thread are more than capable of defending themselves but I've never been one to turn down a good fight, even if I am new here (apologies to the hosts of this amazing thread. Long time lurker, first time poster, love every bit of it).

Dear sweet Meli..... I am genuinely sorry that you find this to be so repugnant. I mean that in all sincerity. I'm sorry you came to a thread, aptly titled "Oral Servitude", and expected to find 5,000 posts of women who love having a cock in their mouth. Clearly, the hosts here have fallen well short of your expectations.

Is it reasonable on your part, though, to visit a website dedicated to all aspects of sex, and hope to be pleased with everything you find? I think most would argue that is certainly not the case. Visit here long enough and you're bound to find something that turns your stomach or makes you never want to be naked again. Guess what? That's ok. Not everything here is for everybody. I don't care to be pissed on, but there's entire threads of people who dig it. That's them. Have at it. Similarly, the people on this thread are clearly into oral. Every aspect of it, whether it's traditional college-girl-on-frat-boy or D/s.

I think it's commendable that the posters here dare to share what they like, even at the risk of offending some delicate wallflower but I digress....

You're always welcome in any thread. That's what makes Lit beautiful. Everyone is free to explore at will. Find something you don't like? Just keep scrolling and nobody will give a care in the world. Find something you do like? Make a positive comment and be guided to even more treasures. It's the way it works.

Please don't spout that #metoo bullshit in these parts. Nobody in this alternate universe wants to talk about it. It's fine in real life, but here it has no place.

Thanks for letting me rant, I'm off to look at more of this thread:rose:
 
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islandjoe2 said:
I think it's commendable that the posters here dare to share what they like, even at the risk of offending some delicate wallflower who has apparently only had missionary style with her high school boyfriend one time and was so repulsed when he came on her thigh she swore off sex for life. But I digress...
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I disagreed with Méli's post, and have said so, but that was uncalled for.
 
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