High School Shooting In Florida

[Hypoxia]

Meanwhile in ISRAEL their students remain SAFE!

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/84/40/b0/8440b00b4ffd49c6028071642dcbc244.jpg

Been there and seen it in Person! ALL Ex IDF plus trained in Krav Maga !

Q: Is This an Armed Teacher Protecting Students at an Israeli School?
A: No. She's a security guard, such as Parkland had one of.

Want more security at schools? Hire many many more trained, armed guards. Build many many secure fences around campuses. Arm teachers and janitors so kids can steal their firearms and shoot each other. Right.

Or declare that possession of a firearm on or near a campus by any other than members of a well-regulated militia in authorized situations is a capitol offense. Non-militia carrying elsewhere in public would only be a torture-and-exile offense. Don't tolerate rogues.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I have had several incidents where having a gun has saved me from being hurt or possibly killed.

Did you fire your weapon? Did you require all six (or more bullets)? How many people were threatening you at one time?

I'm not saying handguns aren't a deterrent. I'm willing to stipulate that.

I'm wonder about the necessity of having, say, six or more bullets....are you that poor a shot? Do you really require more than six opportunities to hit a target? The purpose of an auto-loading semiautomatic rifle is to acquire as many targets in the shortest possible amount of time. I cannot think of a civilian situation that would require more than six shots fired in the shortest amount of time, save to commit mass murder.

 

[HisArpy]

Q: Is This an Armed Teacher Protecting Students at an Israeli School?
A: No. She's a security guard, such as Parkland had one of.

Want more security at schools? Hire many many more trained, armed guards. Build many many secure fences around campuses. Arm teachers and janitors so kids can steal their firearms and shoot each other. Right.

Seems to work well for Israeli schools. Not many mass school shootings there and they've got all kinds of bombing and shooting problems we don't have.

Or declare that possession of a firearm on or near a campus by any other than members of a well-regulated militia in authorized situations is a capitol offense. Non-militia carrying elsewhere in public would only be a torture-and-exile offense. Don't tolerate rogues.

Because, you know, defenseless victims need protection AFTER the bad guy has killed them all.

Another law to make murder illegal won't stop a criminal bent on murder. Laws designed to prevent good guys from stopping the bad guy don't stop murder either.

The rest of your statements show how far off the deep end you've gone - advocating torture?

 

[Dribble]

So if you're attacked, you want to stymie your ability to defend yourself? Great logic.

Let's say you're attacked by 6 people and you have a j frame, would you ask them to please wait until you can reload your revolver?

And if you're able to stop the threat from 9 people with 9 shots, you're pretty lucky or an amazing shot.

If you truly do own a gun, you know that 1 shot is very unlikely to stop an attacker. But the chances are that you don't actually own a gun.

This is from a shootout in Skokie in 2008 where a cop shot a guy 17 times with .45acp, and he kept firing back at him.



http://www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/articles/2012/02/shots-fired-skokie-illinois-08-25-2008.aspx


Actual, real world examples of self defense tell us over and over, that you're not going to stop an assailant with one shot. Thinking you can is foolish and stupid.

Try to stay in the conversation...I know it is hard. But try...

 

[BobBalouski]

Can someone explain to me why we need semi-automatic weapons in the general public today?

"we", wannabe?

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Paul Ryan greeting campaign donors at the Key Biscayne fundraiser

Woo-hoo! Dead students and funerals for teens. Republicans party on Friday.

Protesters are escorted out of a Republican fundraising event Friday night, Feb. 16, 2018, at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Key Biscayne. The protesters confronted House Speaker Paul Ryan about guns in the wake of a mass shooting at a Parkland high school.

The National Republican Congressional Committee — the national fundraising arm for House Republicans — lists a 2018 Winter Meeting held in Key Biscayne this weekend.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article200663374.html


Thorne said she found Ryan in the middle of the room — “I shook his hand and everything,” she said — and introduced herself as a teacher and Key Biscayner.

“Nice,” the Republican congressman replied.

“Nice?” Thorne said. “You’re here celebrating the death of 17 children.”

At that, Thorne said, Ryan told her he “didn’t want to talk politics” or argue. When Thorne tried to continue, security escorted her out. She chanted “No more guns!” on her way out.

MIAMI — Hundreds gathered at the fairgrounds here for a major gun show held just three days after the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, less than 50 miles north.

Prices on AR- 15 death machines might skyrocket! Buy now!

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...hundreds-attend-nearby-gun-show-miami-n849066

The AR-15 was already incredibly popular and breaking through records before it was used in the shooting at Sandy Hook that made it infamous. But since then it has gone on to see huge sales, with rumours that it could be banned driving sales to unbelievable levels.

The US armed forces use a fully automatic gun called the M16, which is actually just a redesigned version of the original AR-15. Though the two guns have different internal features, they are nearly identical to look at.


http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...s-sandy-hood-weapon-gun-killers-a8211821.html

 

[Dribble]

Doesn't surprise me one bit.

One of the survivors said the gun used was an automatic...which means...bump stock. Now she could be wrong...but I bet she isn't. And still, republicans don't even want to talk about outlawing that.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I cannot think of a civilian situation that would require more than six shots fired in the shortest amount of time, save to commit mass murder.

Not at all shocking.

More than one or just an armed assailant.

Doesn't surprise me one bit.

One of the survivors said the gun used was an automatic...which means...bump stock. Now she could be wrong...but I bet she isn't. And still, republicans don't even want to talk about outlawing that.

Because outlawing that is dumb, unless you're also willing to outlaw belts and belt loops on jeans.

 

[BobBalouski]

Hoping something is true to sate your very own bigotry/prejudices is totally different than actually understanding that a bump stock isn't needed at all to make a semi-automatic rifle fire faster than average, but a semi-auto still can't fire automatically.

Ok, sorry for that factual interruption...

Back to you being a hysterically emotional, little cyber fem b!tch about it all.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Doesn't surprise me one bit.

One of the survivors said the gun used was an automatic...which means...bump stock. Now she could be wrong...but I bet she isn't. And still, republicans don't even want to talk about outlawing that.

You really don't know shit about guns do you? You want people to have a real discussion about it you have to be honest not make up shit and use buzz words.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Did you fire your weapon? Did you require all six (or more bullets)? How many people were threatening you at one time?

I'm not saying handguns aren't a deterrent. I'm willing to stipulate that.

I'm wonder about the necessity of having, say, six or more bullets....are you that poor a shot? Do you really require more than six opportunities to hit a target? The purpose of an auto-loading semiautomatic rifle is to acquire as many targets in the shortest possible amount of time. I cannot think of a civilian situation that would require more than six shots fired in the shortest amount of time, save to commit mass murder.

Even cops fire insane numbers of rounds because almost nobody is accurate in those situations. Watch footage of any gunfight or read about the number of rounds used in most. It's not a movie. People don't always go down when hit once and they certainly don't hit center mass on the first shot when under that stress. Not even when trained for it.

 

[St_mAnn]

Even cops fire insane numbers of rounds because almost nobody is accurate in those situations. Watch footage of any gunfight or read about the number of rounds used in most. It's not a movie. People don't always go down when hit once and they certainly don't hit center mass on the first shot when under that stress. Not even when trained for it.

So higher capacity cartridges for all guns is the solution. Make it so.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

So higher capacity cartridges for all guns is the solution. Make it so.

Way to make shit up. Good job.
And a cartridge is part of the ammo. If you have no clue why are discussing it?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Even cops fire insane numbers of rounds because almost nobody is accurate in those situations. Watch footage of any gunfight or read about the number of rounds used in most. It's not a movie. People don't always go down when hit once and they certainly don't hit center mass on the first shot when under that stress. Not even when trained for it.

Even when trained for it you're taught to keep firing until they stay down because 1 round, unless from a higher caliber rifle is rarely enough.

 

[BotanyBoy]

So higher capacity cartridges for all guns is the solution. Make it so.

What the fuck is that?

You mean higher capacity magazines?

And no not for all guns, just ones you intend on getting into a gunfight with.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

What the fuck is that?

You mean higher capacity magazines?

They don't know shit from shinola but want to be experts on what should or shouldn't be banned.

 

[BotanyBoy]

They don't know shit from shinola but want to be experts on what should or shouldn't be banned.

Usually the case for prohibitionist.

 

[coachdb18]

Our ancestors did every day. In that tradition, many people still use muzzle loaders for hunting today.

Haven’t seen ‘The Revenant’, have you!

And just for reference, here’s 12 shots from a revolver in 2.99 seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FbUMqoyjDw

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Haven’t seen ‘The Revenant’, have you!

To be fair that was a big ass bear.
I liked the dumb stories that came out before the movie that the bear raped Leo. People believed that shit. People are stupid. But I don't need to tell you that, I've seen your posts, you're a dumb motherfucker.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Haven’t seen ‘The Revenant’, have you!

And just for reference, here’s 12 shots from a revolver in 2.99 seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FbUMqoyjDw

That's a world record thing, not fair to compare. However 15 seconds is just lazy. l It's a googled number for one thing and for another it's people taking their sweet ass time on the range. A decent person with a pistol could reload by hand in around 15 seconds much less with a speedloader.

 

[coachdb18]

Our ancestors did every day. In that tradition, many people still use muzzle loaders for hunting today.

That's a world record thing, not fair to compare. However 15 seconds is just lazy. l It's a googled number for one thing and for another it's people taking their sweet ass time on the range. A decent person with a pistol could reload by hand in around 15 seconds much less with a speedloader.

True, that’s record. But the point was, and is, even a revolver HAS THE CAPABILITY of being fired EVERY BIT AS FAST as a full auto ‘assault rifle’! Tell me you could distinguish between that revolver and the sound of an automatic weapon! And there are a lot of people who can shoot very fast, accurately.

 

[St_mAnn]

Way to make shit up. Good job.
And a cartridge is part of the ammo. If you have no clue why are discussing it?

I didn't make anything up and I'm not discussing what you numpties are blabbing about either, I summarized.

You're right, I misspoke, I meant magazines, but you knew that. That's why you answered, then edited to try and look clever.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

True, that’s record. But the point was, and is, even a revolver HAS THE CAPABILITY of being fired EVERY BIT AS FAST as a full auto ‘assault rifle’! Tell me you could distinguish between that revolver and the sound of an automatic weapon! And there are a lot of people who can shoot very fast, accurately.

It's not even close to full auto. A whole magazine at full auto sounds like a loud burp. Takes about a second or two. It's why nobody uses it or even wants it. It's pointless and a waste of ammo.

 

[St_mAnn]

What the fuck is that?

You mean higher capacity magazines?

And no not for all guns, just ones you intend on getting into a gunfight with.

Of course I meant that. I ate some triple dose gummies. Get over yourselves.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

I didn't make anything up and I'm not discussing what you numpties are blabbing about either, I summarized.

You're right, I misspoke, I meant magazines, but you knew that. That's why you answered, then edited to try and look clever.

I edited because I first said bullet but that wasn't accurate and didn't feel like having that discussion.
Yes you are making shit up. I didn't say anything about high cap mags. You made it that because you want to argue something you're ignorant about.