High School Shooting In Florida

[RobDownSouth]

Can someone explain to me why we need semi-automatic weapons in the general public today?

 

[FakeNews]

Does Mueller indictment mean Clinton campaign can be indicted for Chris Steele?

Scared they're getting a little too close to your orange Il Duce?

If Mueller’s theory is correct, three things make Steele a criminal: first, he is a foreign citizen; second, he tried to influence an election, which he received payments to do (including from the FBI itself); and third, he neither registered as a foreign agent nor listed his receipts and expenditures to the Federal Election Commission. Also, according to the FBI, along the way, Steele lied…a lot, while the dossier he disseminated contained its own lies based on bought-and-paid for smears from foreign sources reliant on rumors and innuendo.

If Mueller’s theory is correct, then three things make the DNC a potential target: it knew Steele was a foreign citizen; it knew, and paid, Steele to influence an election; and it knew, and facilitated, Steele neither registering as a foreign agent nor reporting his funding from the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign to the Federal Election Commission, by disguising its payments to Steele as laundered legal expenses to a law firm.

If Mueller’s theory is correct, three things make the Clinton Campaign a potential target: it knew Steele was a foreign citizen; it knew, and paid, Steele to influence an election; and it knew, and facilitated, Steele neither registering as a foreign agent nor reporting his funding from the Clinton campaign to the Federal Election Commission, by disguising its funding of payments to Steele laundered through a law firm as a “legal expense.”

https://lawandcrime.com/opinion/doe...on-campaign-can-be-indicted-for-chris-steele/

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Can someone explain to me why we need semi-automatic weapons in the general public today?

You wanna go bear hunting with a single shot?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Can someone explain to me why we need semi-automatic weapons in the general public today?

Because they are the bar standard in personal armament for almost 200 years.

Look a semiautomatic weapon!!!

http://images.gunsinternational.com/listings_sub/acc_401/gi_100480218/SMITH-and-WESSON-32-DOUBLE-ACTION-4TH-MODEL_100480218_401_AE807D85C09A553C.jpg

 

[RobDownSouth]

You wanna go bear hunting with a single shot?

How many people in America today have EVER gone bear hunting? I suspect less than one percent.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Because they are the bar standard in personal armament for almost 200 years.

Look a semiautomatic weapon!!!

http://images.gunsinternational.com/listings_sub/acc_401/gi_100480218/SMITH-and-WESSON-32-DOUBLE-ACTION-4TH-MODEL_100480218_401_AE807D85C09A553C.jpg

I don't think you could kill 17 people with that single weapon, but I won't be surprised if you believe otherwise.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

I don't think you could kill 17 people with that single weapon, but I won't be surprised if you believe otherwise.

I own a revolver with speedloaders and I'm not a gun nut. They fit in your pocket, take no time to use and gives you just as many rounds as any other gun.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I own a revolver with speedloaders and I'm not a gun nut. They fit in your pocket, take no time to use and gives you just as many rounds as any other gun.

Why do you need so much "personal defense"?

How many times does a gun owner fire his/her weapon in self defense in a lifetime?

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Why do you need so much "personal defense"?

How many times does a gun owner fire his/her weapon in self defense in a lifetime?

Never once used it for self defense. Don't even have immediate access to it at home. I don't worry about that kind of shit.

 

[richard_daily]

How about, it is "all of the above" issue. And time to address each issue.

Great. Where are all of the pro-mental health threads?

All I'm seeing are anti-gun threads from ideologues who hate or are scared of guns.

 

[Dribble]

I own a revolver with speedloaders and I'm not a gun nut. They fit in your pocket, take no time to use and gives you just as many rounds as any other gun.

So do I...but you are simply wrong. I can drop a mag from my 9mm and be reloaded in 3 seconds...maybe 5...and each mag has 9 rounds. So if I am a expert...I can kill 9 people and reload and kill another 9


Using my speed loader on my revolver reloading time goes up to 15 secs easily. And my revolver only holds 5 rounds. Which kills less people in the same amount of time? Which gives people more time to rush the shooter?

 

[richard_daily]

Can someone explain to me why we need semi-automatic weapons in the general public today?

Because I have the right to defend myself.

 

[Dribble]

Meanwhile in ISRAEL their students remain SAFE!

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/84/40/b0/8440b00b4ffd49c6028071642dcbc244.jpg

Been there and seen it in Person! ALL Ex IDF plus trained in Krav Maga !

They also have mandatory military service for all last I heard...

 

[Sean]

They also have mandatory military service for all last I heard...

Also, that isn't an Israeli teacher. Israel schools often hire IDF soldiers or private security when kids go on field trips. Israeli teachers aren't usually armed. Snopes debunked this bullshit years ago, after Sandy Hook IIRC.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Because I have the right to defend myself.

Defend yourself from what? How many people at one time have come after you with bad intent?

 

[richard_daily]

So do I...but you are simply wrong. I can drop a mag from my 9mm and be reloaded in 3 seconds...maybe 5...and each mag has 9 rounds. So if I am a expert...I can kill 9 people and reload and kill another 9


Using my speed loader on my revolver reloading time goes up to 15 secs easily. And my revolver only holds 5 rounds. Which kills less people in the same amount of time? Which gives people more time to rush the shooter?

So if you're attacked, you want to stymie your ability to defend yourself? Great logic.

Let's say you're attacked by 6 people and you have a j frame, would you ask them to please wait until you can reload your revolver?

And if you're able to stop the threat from 9 people with 9 shots, you're pretty lucky or an amazing shot.

If you truly do own a gun, you know that 1 shot is very unlikely to stop an attacker. But the chances are that you don't actually own a gun.

This is from a shootout in Skokie in 2008 where a cop shot a guy 17 times with .45acp, and he kept firing back at him.

"There were 17 total hits on his body including three fatal shots to his head, a couple to his torso, and one to his abdomen," Gramins says. "Which means that even though Maddox was mortally wounded before the head shots, he was still able to engage me.

http://www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/articles/2012/02/shots-fired-skokie-illinois-08-25-2008.aspx


Actual, real world examples of self defense tell us over and over, that you're not going to stop an assailant with one shot. Thinking you can is foolish and stupid.

 

[richard_daily]

Defend yourself from what? How many people at one time have come after you with bad intent?

I have had several incidents where having a gun has saved me from being hurt or possibly killed.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

So do I...but you are simply wrong. I can drop a mag from my 9mm and be reloaded in 3 seconds...maybe 5...and each mag has 9 rounds. So if I am a expert...I can kill 9 people and reload and kill another 9


Using my speed loader on my revolver reloading time goes up to 15 secs easily. And my revolver only holds 5 rounds. Which kills less people in the same amount of time? Which gives people more time to rush the shooter?

Never said they were as fast as a standard magazine and most revolvers hold 6. But they are fast if you practice. 15 seconds is slow btw. It's pretty common to be able to swap out in 5 or 6 seconds. faster for some.

 

[coachdb18]

Meh I'm not into lefty shit holes 1 step above Detroit.

Despite family and pizza, Chicago isn't much of an option.

I'm thinking northern Minnesota sitting on a lake, get a lot more for my $ there than I would handing it all over to the city of Chicago. And it's just nice.

If it were a choice between Chicago and Aleppo, I think I'd have to pack my bags for Aleppo

 

[coachdb18]

You wanna go bear hunting with a single shot?

The term Semi-automatic is to liberals as SQUIRREL is to dogs (See Assault Rifle)

 

[coachdb18]

I don't think you could kill 17 people with that single weapon, but I won't be surprised if you believe otherwise.

12 shots from a revolver in 2.99 seconds ... watch the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FbUMqoyjDw

 

[BotanyBoy]

I don't think you could kill 17 people with that single weapon, but I won't be surprised if you believe otherwise.

You said semi-automatic, now you run around with your goalpost of killing 17 people with it.

Which has been done, with single action revolvers, cowboy guns!

If you think revolvers are somehow less deadly than any other semi automatic weapon than you're more ignorant of the topic than I previously thought.

BTW, fastest shots, even with reloads? DA (semi auto) revolvers.

Most powerful hand cannons out on the market? Revolvers.

Guess what kind gun gets used in more murders than all rifles combined?

Saturday night special is still one of the deadliest guns in the country.
http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Charter-Arms-Bulldog-5.jpg

Revolver.....

If it were a choice between Chicago and Aleppo, I think I'd have to pack my bags for Aleppo

Most of the fun there is over.

 

[HisArpy]

You wanna go bear hunting with a single shot?

Our ancestors did every day. In that tradition, many people still use muzzle loaders for hunting today.

 

[phrodeau]

But a good guy with a gun will stop a bad guy with a gun. No bullets needed.

 

[Que]

Defend yourself from what? How many people at one time have come after you with bad intent?

What sort of gun was the armed security guard carrying when you pushed that unarmed black lady over and ran to hide behind him to get away from her plea for assistance and teh unarmed scary black man with her?