High School Shooting In Florida

[BobBalouski]

The Constitution refers to inalienable rights...

Really? Can you cite literally where it does, as you claim?

 

[coachdb18]

Jefferson, in his multiple drafts of The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, spelled it both "unalienable" and "inalienable", and, of course, his drafts endured further editing by others, too.

As far as I am aware, neither the Constitution for the United States of America or the first 10 Amendments to it mention either "unalienable" or "inalienable".

It goes back to the Federalist papers, and the understandings as they wrote of them at the time of the founding. The Bill of Rights was not included in the main body of the Constitution due to disagreements, as many of the delegates felt they were Natural Law, and framing them in man-made laws and documents then subjected them to some asshole one day trying to do exactly what we face today, to repeal or revise them. Making them amendments was a compromise to these principled stands, and were understood to be Unalienable rights as part of the rationale for their passage.

 

[BobBalouski]

If you are in a building that is on fire and you are equally distant from two rooms. One room has 20 viable fetuses the other room has one five-year-old child.

If you get to either room you can either save the child or all 20 fetuses but you can not save the child in one room and the fetuses in the other.

No cute work-arounds, it's either one room or the other.


I don't know what your answer is, but:

If it is save the one child then:
fetus =/= human life and you are a hypocrite if you still insist it is so.

If it is let the child die and save the fetuses:
well you are not a hypocrite but you are a monster.

I've never been able to reach the rank of expert keyboard wannabe like you, obviously, but, in reality, all I suppose I could possibly hope to do in that exact situation is to instantly act according to my previous training/experience and intuition, totally regardless of your wannabe choices: if I could only save either form of human life, my mind would simply decide which form of human life I'd have the best chance of saving. Reality is simply that simple.

Sorry to pop your wannabe bubble.

 

[Wrong Element]

The Columbine shooting was a gigantic news event in a way that I don't think it's possible for a mass shooting to become anymore. The AP voted it the second-biggest news story of 1999, behind only the Clinton impeachment trial.

More people died today than died at Columbine, and if recent history is any guide, we will have all moved on by next Wednesday.

 

[wickedpanda]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/1...after-reports-shooter-victims-police-say.html

Aww they took him alive, oh well Florida has the Death penalty so hes another Gun Free Zone success story an Antifa member and a registered Democrat that enjoys dressing up in MAGA hats!

 

[jaF0]

and if recent history is any guide, there will have been another one by next Wednesday.

Fixed that for ya.

 

[Adder4321]

You all seem to think that these incident are exclusively caused by either social issues or a lack of gun regulation. I reckon that it's probably a combination of both. After all, there were still mass killings and what not back in the days before guns. I can guarantee you that if we removed all guns from the public we would just have people running around killing each other with knives and home made explosives.

Guns don't kill people, they just make it easier for people to kill people. You can ban guns, but that's just a temporary measure. Humans will never stop killing each other.

 

[butters]

they couldn't even get a ban on bump stock passed

if the parents and other adults won't act to reduce the availability of guns - whether it's those sitting around in houses, under pillows, in cupboards, locked away but with the key in a bedside drawer, or how many can buy guns who shouldn't be anywhere near them - then it has to be down to the traumatised kids to act... over 150,000 children directly exposed to the traumas of gun-events in schools. if the adults fail them, fail to protect them, they will have to make the lawmakers and parents listen through voting, through rejecting guns in their culture.

 

[Super-Surprise]

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[RoryN]

You can ban guns, but that's just a temporary measure.

Would it upset deplorables?

If so, we should do it.

Anything that angers deplorables should always be followed through on. They are un-American and a societal cancer.

 

[BobBalouski]

It goes back to the Federalist papers, and the understandings as they wrote of them at the time of the founding. The Bill of Rights was not included in the main body of the Constitution due to disagreements, as many of the delegates felt they were Natural Law, and framing them in man-made laws and documents then subjected them to some asshole one day trying to do exactly what we face today, to repeal or revise them. Making them amendments was a compromise to these principled stands, and were understood to be Unalienable rights as part of the rationale for their passage.

Again, the neither the word "Unalienable" (why are you capitalizing it, anyway?) or "inalienable" are found in the Constitution.

And, you do understand "The Bill of Rights" weren't "included in the main body of the Constitution" simply because they didn't exist at all when the C was written, passed in convention and then ratified by the States?

And, despite your continued erroneous "Unalienable" insistence, the State debates that did eventually ratify the first 10 Amendments prove that masses of those legislators didn't consider them "Unalienable" at all (by voting against ratifying those Articles).

Plus: there were 12 Articles which were passed out of the 1st Congress to the States for ratification, and Article the first still hasn't been ratified these 227 years later, although it can still be ratified whenever 38 States wish to?

And that Article the second wasn't ratified until 1992 (becoming America's 27th (and last, so far) Amendment), 201 years after it was initially offered up for ratification right along with Article the third through Article the twelfth, which became the first 10 Amendments?

Why all that difficulty, then, if everyone, as you erroneously obviously believe, believed them all to be "Unalienable".

 

[Chivas2infinity]

You're right, American schools need armed guards.

Lock up the fuckin criminals and crazies instead of letting them run loose.

 

[BobBalouski]

they couldn't even get a ban on bump stock passed

if the parents and other adults won't act to reduce the availability of guns - whether it's those sitting around in houses, under pillows, in cupboards, locked away but with the key in a bedside drawer, or how many can buy guns who shouldn't be anywhere near them - then it has to be down to the traumatised kids to act... over 150,000 children directly exposed to the traumas of gun-events in schools. if the adults fail them, fail to protect them, they will have to make the lawmakers and parents listen through voting, through rejecting guns in their culture.

Socialist limey can't quite comprehend that her democratic voting utopia would have to actually conquer the concrete reason why America's founder/framers constituted Amendment II in the first place, COMMANDING any government UNDER IT that it can't do what you - an alien socialist limey now mooching off the greatness of America - are pimping American kids to unconstitutionally do.

You already champion the intentional killing of innocent little American babies simply for convenience; now you're championing American kids unconstitutionally act in such an illegal way that hundreds of thousands of them will die pursuing your criminal advice?

The blood of 750,000 little babies a year on your hands, and now you're advocating young people offering themselves up to your culture of death, too.



Hey, Hairlip! Tell your mail-order twatbucket she should at least try to get her own right to vote in a land not her own before she encourages American kids to die for her socialist, anti-Constitution desires. No vote, no voice!

 

[BobBalouski]

The Columbine shooting was a gigantic news event in a way that I don't think it's possible for a mass shooting to become anymore. The AP voted it the second-biggest news story of 1999, behind only the Clinton impeachment trial.

More people died today than died at Columbine, and if recent history is any guide, we will have all moved on by next Wednesday.

Intentionally & tortuously killing 2,000 little innocent human lives in America everyday has a natural way of making all other intentional killings of innocent human life exactly what it's become today: completely mundane.

You babykiller champions have wrought exactly what you've intentionally sowed. Good job!

 

[jaF0]

Hush Up eyesore.

 

[Luk]

Intentionally & tortuously killing 2,000 little innocent human lives in America everyday has a natural way of making all other intentional killings of innocent human life exactly what it's become today: completely mundane.

You babykiller champions have wrought exactly what you've intentionally sowed. Good job!

Every time you tell us how many "dead children" there are from abortion, I weep. I weep that your merciful god didn't make you another one in the bucket.

 

[Chivas2infinity]

over 150,000 children directly exposed to the traumas of gun-events in schools. if the adults fail them, fail to protect them, they will have to make the lawmakers and parents listen through voting, through rejecting guns in their culture.

Chicago kids exposed to gun violence tend to have higher rates of performing gun violence themselves as they grow older.
It's called the ghetto, baby.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

This will continue to be the problem it is, until there are no longer places that are 'target rich environments', courtesy of so called 'gun free zones', which are just another way of saying 'you're not gonna face anybody shooting back, you've got minutes free reign till the cops show up'. Conceal carry reduces crime, and could put an end to this travesty, if only the bleeding hearts would get over their fears. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. And the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

This was NOT a gun free zone.

 

[RoryN]

Chicago kids exposed to gun violence tend to have higher rates of performing gun violence themselves as they grow older.
It's called the ghetto, baby.

...which were largely created by redlining.

(You don't know what that is because you didn't graduate high school.)

 

[Chivas2infinity]

...which were largely created by redlining.

(You don't know what that is because you didn't graduate high school.)

Actually, I graduated with honors from NIU, which today is celebrating the 10-year anniversary of its own mass shooting.
The "ghetto" today is economic, not racial. Blacks who can afford to live in white neighborhoods can, will, and do move to them.
OTOH, blacks don't want anyone else moving into theirs.

 

[Dribble]

Really? Can you cite literally where it does, as you claim?

It is called English. Get a dictionary...look at the difference between the two. Which is a God given right? Then ask, which is a right determined by man.

 

[phrodeau]

Actually, I graduated with honors from NIU, which today is celebrating the 10-year anniversary of it's own mass shooting.

And they didn't teach you the possessive form of it?

 

[RoryN]

Actually, I graduated with honors from NIU

it's

Sure ya did, snowflake.

 

[Chivas2infinity]

And they didn't teach you the possessive form of it?

Text predictor. Fixed, btw, just like your "dad" was.

 

[RoryN]

Text predictor.

..."text predictor"?

LOL - that's not what it's called, genius.