High School Shooting In Florida

[RoryN]

I agree. With a pathway to regain the right. People can change.

After conviction for domestic abuse?

What would be the benefit to letting such a person re-gain that particular right?

 

[Dribble]

After conviction for domestic abuse?

What would be the benefit to letting such a person re-gain that particular right?

Sure...just as a person w a felony can regain this right. It isn't easy...but it can happen.

 

[BobBalouski]

No, the most absurd argument is when people try to claim a bunch of cells is a person. By that logic, an acorn is an oak tree.

A=A

human life = human life

Why do you champion the intentional & tortuous killing of completely innocent & totally defenseless little human life...

...and then whine and moan when your culture of death offspring emulate you so very, very aptly?

 

[KrazieKat69]

So sad, thoughts and prayers to all the families!! God bless them...

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Imvestigators now confirming shooter pulled the fire alarm to get students to come into the hallways.

And thus today will mark the end of school fire drills as we know them.

Yep. No more surprise ones that's for sure.

 

[BobBalouski]

It's so hilarious listening to all these adults try their damnedest to somehow get all these kids to spill-out the same childish, hyperbolic emotionalism they're so embarassingly good at...



Hate to break it to you, sleepers: kids today are cold steel-hardened by the culture of death you've passed-on to them - you made these 10-years olds pros about it, now.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

It's so hilarious listening to all these adults try their damnedest to somehow get all these kids to spill-out the same childish, hyperbolic emotionalism they're so embarassingly good at...



Hate to break it to you, sleepers: kids today are cold steel-hardened by the culture of death you've passed-on to them - you made these 10-years olds pros about it, now.

I'd bet a dollar that you aren't allowed to buy guns.

 

[RoryN]

Yep. No more surprise ones that's for sure.

Exactly.

 

[someoneyouknow]

A=A

human life = human life

Why do you champion the intentional & tortuous killing of completely innocent & totally defenseless little human life...

...and then whine and moan when your culture of death offspring emulate you so very, very aptly?

Nice to see you're ignoring the argument. If a bunch of cells is a person than an acorn is a tree.

I don't really care if a woman has an abortion. It's not my decision to tell her how to live her life or what she should do.

Further, since you're not the one who's going to be paying for the upkeep of the kid, you have no say in the matter. And before you say anything on that point, that's why we have hundreds of thousands of kids waiting to be adopted because people like you don't want anything to do with the kid once they're born. If you did, you'd step up and start adopting.

All you care about is if something pops out. Once that happens, you turn your back and then whine and moan if the mother asks for help raising the kid.

 

[coachdb18]

Your problem is you don't understand what the Second Amendment says...It says nothing about a right to own a gun. It says EVERYTHING about the Gov't not interfering w that right. I wish I could expect more from you...but I know you have limited reading and comprehension skills.

And with that, your ignore status is restored, bye...

 

[RoryN]

I lost the debate.

FYP...

 

[coachdb18]

FYP...

And for faking a quote and attributing it to me, you too are restored to ignore status... bye

 

[Dribble]

And with that, your ignore status is restored, bye...

LOL...doesn't change the facts moron. Read it sometime...or you can have someone read it to you. The Supreme Court clearly stated that the right to own a gun "pre-existed" the Constitution. The Amendment prevents the Federal Govt from limiting that pre-existing right.

 

[RoryN]

*triggered by the truth*

I win.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

I gotta say I like guns. I have some, my son has a couple, I grew up with them. They're very useful and lots of fun without having to kill people. Altho there's much to be said for that under the right circumstances. We've all been there, we all know no jury would ever convict us.

 

[Hypoxia]

I just got back and TL/DR but fuck it. Schools must not be free-fire zones. A non-cop carrying a loaded firearm onto or near a school campus should be executed on sight. Any person not in a well-regulated militia, carrying a firearm in public, should be tortured and exiled to a rattlesnake den. The "right to bear arms" to defend the nation doesn't allow going rogue.

A supposed 'inalienable' right to life, liberty, etc as a person born, is bullshit when unregulated firearms infest the public realm. Face it: you have the freedom to kill or be killed. All else is delusion. You don't like that prospect? Then fucking REGULATE fucking FIREARMS. Now.

Controlling firearms production and possession is impossible. That cat is out of the barn. Controlling firearms in public is quite possible. Get regulated, or leave your guns home, or die.

BTW I got quite good with pistols, rifles, and grenade launchers during my Army years. There's a trophy around here somewhere. I have no problem with weapons used with discipline. But gunpowder addicts are sick fucks. The NRA and its minions bear direct blame for every school shooting.

 

[coachdb18]

A supposed 'inalienable' right to life, liberty, etc as a person born, is bullshit when unregulated firearms infest the public realm.

In the case of the Bill of Rights, they are Unalienable, not Inalienable... they are God given rights which the government promised, and promises, not to mess with. To try and reverse the laws of nature such as these is akin to trying to repeal the law of gravity.

 

[jaF0]

Dude ... like what?

God is man made and conjured, just like the Constipitutions.

 

[Hypoxia]

The Supreme Court clearly stated that the right to own a gun "pre-existed" the Constitution. The Amendment prevents the Federal Govt from limiting that pre-existing right.

Why does that divinely-ordained right exists nowhere else on Earth? Why did it pre-exist only in these rebel British colonies? Sounds like legal BS to me.

Reality: Rights are not holy. Rights (and responsibilities) are not granted, but only seized. You possess no rights that haven't been struggled for. Colonists fought against Crown restrictions on WHO could bear arms in defense. Once gained, right (and responsibilities) are regulated by law. Laws say arms you may bear don't include switchblades, grenades, and nukes. Too bad.

Sure, you have the freedom (not the right) to kill and/or be killed. Have fun.

 

[BobBalouski]

If a bunch of cells is a person than an acorn is a tree.

Yes, I fully understand you don't value human life any more than a fucking tree. And all the Cruzs of the world prove every single day how very much they share your murderous outlook.

 

[AngeloMichael]

A=A

human life = human life

Why do you champion the intentional & tortuous killing of completely innocent & totally defenseless little human life...

...and then whine and moan when your culture of death offspring emulate you so very, very aptly?

If you are in a building that is on fire and you are equally distant from two rooms. One room has 20 viable fetuses the other room has one five-year-old child.

If you get to either room you can either save the child or all 20 fetuses but you can not save the child in one room and the fetuses in the other.

No cute work-arounds, it's either one room or the other.


I don't know what your answer is, but:

If it is save the one child then:
fetus =/= human life and you are a hypocrite if you still insist it is so.

If it is let the child die and save the fetuses:
well you are not a hypocrite but you are a monster.

 

[Dribble]

In the case of the Bill of Rights, they are Unalienable, not Inalienable... they are God given rights which the government promised, and promises, not to mess with. To try and reverse the laws of nature such as these is akin to trying to repeal the law of gravity.

No...

The Declaration of Independence has unalienable rights...those that cannot be taken away...such as life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

The Constitution refers to inalienable rights...those that cannot be repealed by human law.

 

[Dribble]

Why does that divinely-ordained right exists nowhere else on Earth? Why did it pre-exist only in these rebel British colonies? Sounds like legal BS to me.

Reality: Rights are not holy. Rights (and responsibilities) are not granted, but only seized. You possess no rights that haven't been struggled for. Colonists fought against Crown restrictions on WHO could bear arms in defense. Once gained, right (and responsibilities) are regulated by law. Laws say arms you may bear don't include switchblades, grenades, and nukes. Too bad.

Sure, you have the freedom (not the right) to kill and/or be killed. Have fun.

Those rights, pre-existing rights, are dictated by society...and will be changed only by society.

 

[BobBalouski]

In the case of the Bill of Rights, they are Unalienable, not Inalienable... they are God given rights which the government promised, and promises, not to mess with. To try and reverse the laws of nature such as these is akin to trying to repeal the law of gravity.

Jefferson, in his multiple drafts of The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, spelled it both "unalienable" and "inalienable", and, of course, his drafts endured further editing by others, too.

As far as I am aware, neither the Constitution for the United States of America or the first 10 Amendments to it mention either "unalienable" or "inalienable".

 

[BoyNextDoor]

You commit a felony, and you already lose your right to own and carry. Should be true of voting as well as holding office, but Hillary was allowed to shoot and kill Vince Foster.... Oh, wait, that was the suicide where there was a .38 caliber bullet in his head, and a .22 caliber pistol in his hand

I heard she ran a sex trafficking ring under a pizza shop too, ya nutbag.