So, you think this memo thing has legs?

If I were Trump, I’d go ahead and pardon Hillary for Treason and Obstruction of Justice. That automatically assumes her guilt, but says ‘we won’t put you in prison, and there won’t be a trial’. It’s following the lead Comey and the Dems set in motion, and let’s her suffer the verdict of the court of public opinion, the same as OJ.
 
Her trial and conviction were the election. Even, though she has been been convicted electorally, if she just buys a house, she's a lock for the governorship in California.
 
The memo fizzled like a Trumpublican's date rape drug in a 19-year old's lemonade.

There are no good large-scale scenarios for Conservatives this year. Gonna be a shitshow.
 
Her trial and conviction were the election. Even, though she has been been convicted electorally, if she just buys a house, she's a lock for the governorship in California.

with out question your first part is the truth...
hillary is not an issue - except as more sleight of hand...
barnum had nothing on the 45 apparatus...

as to the second part... yeahhhhh-no
but, interesting to ponder...
how many times (in a political lifetime)
can one carpetbag an electorate?

the viewing public is not always savvy quick
but once they finally fully grok the gimmickry,
they will drop a once beguiling show
for the next entertainment...

the key is to keep the suckers clamoring for more...

the checkers and balancers are so close to the xenon lights
that they cannot discern the flames...

the ones who do are dropping out of washington like flies...

drain the swamp? incineration from within...

even if clumsy and ham handed...
(perhaps clumsily and ham handedly illicit)
this administration will change washington forever...
which will...?

in hindsight, be the lasting (positive?) legacy
 
There is that.

The Mueller investigation will continue unabated, this memo really has nothing to do with his investigation. BUT, there is one possible fall out. Mueller has been trying to chase down the "obstruction of justice" mink hole re. Comey's ouster. The memo lays out a strong case that his ouster was 'for cause' even if not addressing the subject directly.

Except the premise of the Mueller Investigation, "collusion with the Russians" put forth and supported by the now disparaged dossier is no more. There is no evidence of Trump illegal "collusion." Remember Rosenstein's charge to Mueller contains no specified statute violation of law:

“In my capacity as acting attorney general I determined that it is in the public interest for me to exercise my authority and appoint a special counsel to assume responsibility for this matter. My decision is not a finding that crimes have been committed or that any prosecution is warranted. I have made no such determination. What I have determined is that based upon the unique circumstances, the public interest requires me to place this investigation under the authority of a person who exercises a degree of independence from the normal chain of command.”

Which in and of itself is a bit strange.
 
My understanding is that the President did not even need so much as cause. It is clear that he should have had all of the DOJ tender their resignations upon being sworn in.
No, a POTUS needs no cause to fire those serving at his pleasure. But firing an investigator probing you IS obstruction of justice. Tromp has admitted that crime already.

And firing everyone in DOJ would leave prosecutions rather short-handed, eh?

If I were Trump, I’d...
You'd surrender to Kim. You know you would, traitor.
 
Trump’s White House Goes Weirdly Silent on the Nunes Memo

A scandal that was supposed to be bigger than Watergate goes almost unmentioned by the president’s team after it breaks.
The release of the so-called Nunes memo on Friday was hyped in conservative circles—and by those close to the White House—as the next Watergate, only, well, bigger. It was a scandal that would rock American politics and law enforcement to its core and, at a minimum, raise serious questions about the integrity of the investigation into Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election.

The memo was released on Friday afternoon. And the White House’s reaction to its release has been conspicuously muted.
The shit got stuck in the fan. Sad.
 
The White House is silent on this like a matador standing back after piercing the bulls' heart with a final clean stroke, while the bull wanders groggy for a second before realizing its fatal wound, stumbling, falling, and dying on the ground. This investigation, if you can call it one, more like a witch hunt, is similarly dead.
 
The damage being done to the country isn't the memo or the acts behind the memo. It is in the division being felt in every corner of the nation by Republicans and Democrats, conservatives and liberals, those who vote and those who sit home on election day. I am a liberal who has most often registered as Democrat but who, until recently, voted for the best person on the ticket, not for the party that person belonged to. Now we find ourselves divided along party lines, many of us forced to support ideologies and people we find onerous. When will the American public wake up and realize that they are not being served by those elected to represent us, that public service, an oxymoron if I ever heard one, has become just another way for the rich and powerful to garner favor, power and more riches? They are pitting us against each other while their hands are in all our pockets and we bicker among ourselves while they get away with it. Fuck them ALL. Send the ALL packing. I don't care who ends up in jail or whose career is ended forever. Break the whole thing wide open and let the chips fall where they may. We will rebuild and, please god, let us do it in a way that benefits the people, not the aristocracy.
 
We knew that FISA requests had all been turned down before the use of the dossier.

This is a complete lie. There has been a FISA warrant on Carter Page since 2013. This hearing was just to extend an already existing warrant.
 
It is looking more and more like the Russians didn't particularly care WHO won the election, they just wanted to de-stabilize the political process as a whole. They wanted us pointing fingers at each other, pre-occupied with finding fault and assigning blame while they went out and increased their influence in the world.

Trump's glaring lack of experience was icing on the cake.
 
The damage being done to the country isn't the memo or the acts behind the memo. It is in the division being felt in every corner of the nation by Republicans and Democrats, conservatives and liberals, those who vote and those who sit home on election day. I am a liberal who has most often registered as Democrat but who, until recently, voted for the best person on the ticket, not for the party that person belonged to. Now we find ourselves divided along party lines, many of us forced to support ideologies and people we find onerous. When will the American public wake up and realize that they are not being served by those elected to represent us, that public service, an oxymoron if I ever heard one, has become just another way for the rich and powerful to garner favor, power and more riches? They are pitting us against each other while their hands are in all our pockets and we bicker among ourselves while they get away with it. Fuck them ALL. Send the ALL packing. I don't care who ends up in jail or whose career is ended forever. Break the whole thing wide open and let the chips fall where they may. We will rebuild and, please god, let us do it in a way that benefits the people, not the aristocracy.

Nice post but you offer no solution other than decay and anarchy. Points, though.
 
The White House is silent on this like a matador standing back after piercing the bulls' heart with a final clean stroke, while the bull wanders groggy for a second before realizing its fatal wound, stumbling, falling, and dying on the ground. This investigation, if you can call it one, more like a witch hunt, is similarly dead.

Lol... This investigation is anything but over... Unless your God captain cheeto decides to start firing people, such as Mueller. Then, who knows.

In which you'll all cheer him on for taking a stand against them picking on me!

:rolleyes:

Lmao on the first part of your post. Jeezus
 
Yes, the fake memo will have legs with the uneducated because they'll accept it blindly even though it was deliberately written to leave out the facts.

According to an official cited in the Post on Friday, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter's sensitivity, the Justice Department presented "ample disclosure of relevant, material facts," to the FISA court, including that "the research was being paid for by a political entity."

The New York Times also reported Friday that the FISA court was told about political motivations behind the dossier. A Democratic memo written to rebut the allegations in Nunes' document said the FBI did, in fact, tell the court that the information in the Steele dossier was politically motivated, even if the bureau didn't mention that research that went into the dossier was paid for by Democrats, the Times reported, citing two people familiar with the Democratic memo.

The Wall Street Journal further reported that, according to a person familiar with the matter, the FISA application disclosed that Steele was paid by a law firm working for a major political party,​

"I don't find these reports at all surprising, because it would've been the responsible thing for the government to say, especially if, as appears to be the case, there was a lot of additional evidence not derived from the dossier that was part of the underlying application," [Steve Vladeck, a CNN legal analyst and professor at the University of Texas School of Law] Vladeck later said in an email. "It all just further undermines not just the specific conclusions of the Nunes memo, but the larger point it's being invoked by the President and his supporters to make."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/03/politics/memo-dossier-christopher-steele-carter-page/index.html
 
Awww fiddlesticks. :( And to think you were so giddy a few days ago over that shitshow SOTU and The Wall (That Will Never Be Built.)

The mojo's been sucked outta ya thanks to this lame-o memo. Cheer up, pally! :(

Well THIS pile is likely to splash high and wide! I don't see how it could not splash on several different Departments, Agencies and both parties!
 
Nobody is much interested in your bullshit, traitor. Turn yourself in now.
The White House blah blah witch hunt blah blah...
The witches have outed themselves. Collusion with Russians and obstruction of the probe have already been openly confessed. Now it's a matter of tracking the money paid to traitors. What is Kim paying you?
 
There will be no quick solutions and I fear what we will see is a mass coverup with the excuse used that the country can't bear up under the truth. The only way forward for us, and by us I mean the people, not the government, is to band together and give power to our voices through sheer volume. In order for that to happen, however, we'll have to stop sniping at each other and address the real villains, those with enough money to buy judges, Presidents, law enforcement, Congressmen and outcomes. I have little hope of that happening.
 
It is looking more and more like the Russians didn't particularly care WHO won the election, they just wanted to de-stabilize the political process as a whole. They wanted us pointing fingers at each other, pre-occupied with finding fault and assigning blame while they went out and increased their influence in the world.

Trump's glaring lack of experience was icing on the cake.

They paid good money to the Clinton Foundation for a reason, and they were expecting a reasonable return on their investments. They cared!
 
A scandal that was supposed to be bigger than Watergate goes almost unmentioned by the president’s team after it breaks.[/B] The shit got stuck in the fan. Sad.


It's time to sit back and listen to the death rattle of the Democrat Party.
 
They paid good money to the Clinton Foundation for a reason, and they were expecting a reasonable return on their investments. They cared!
Did Kim pay you enough, traitor? Have you provided a good return on his investment?

Meanwhile, I've seen no reports that any court in any USA or foreign jurisdiction has convicted the Clinton Foundation of misdeeds. Thus they're either smarter than everyone else in the world, or they aren't crooks. Unlike Tromp, who has bragged of bribery and done more than a bit of skimming.
 
Did Kim pay you enough, traitor? Have you provided a good return on his investment?

Meanwhile, I've seen no reports that any court in any USA or foreign jurisdiction has convicted the Clinton Foundation of misdeeds. Thus they're either smarter than everyone else in the world, or they aren't crooks. Unlike Tromp, who has bragged of bribery and done more than a bit of skimming.

You don't think the Clintons are crooks?
 
Yes, the fake memo will have legs with the uneducated because they'll accept it blindly even though it was deliberately written to leave out the facts.

According to an official cited in the Post on Friday, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter's sensitivity, the Justice Department presented "ample disclosure of relevant, material facts," to the FISA court, including that "the research was being paid for by a political entity."

The New York Times also reported Friday that the FISA court was told about political motivations behind the dossier. A Democratic memo written to rebut the allegations in Nunes' document said the FBI did, in fact, tell the court that the information in the Steele dossier was politically motivated, even if the bureau didn't mention that research that went into the dossier was paid for by Democrats, the Times reported, citing two people familiar with the Democratic memo.

The Wall Street Journal further reported that, according to a person familiar with the matter, the FISA application disclosed that Steele was paid by a law firm working for a major political party,​

"I don't find these reports at all surprising, because it would've been the responsible thing for the government to say, especially if, as appears to be the case, there was a lot of additional evidence not derived from the dossier that was part of the underlying application," [Steve Vladeck, a CNN legal analyst and professor at the University of Texas School of Law] Vladeck later said in an email. "It all just further undermines not just the specific conclusions of the Nunes memo, but the larger point it's being invoked by the President and his supporters to make."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/03/politics/memo-dossier-christopher-steele-carter-page/index.html

So the same team that found it abhorrent to release the memo which has no National Security secrets in it is now leaking National Security secrets to the Press, anonymously. Sounds legit.

Did you guys get whiplash from screaming about how this would be the end of the world at the memo is released and now claiming it's a nothingburger?

guess you can't expect logic out of the team that both claims Trump had no interest in winning the election and he conspired with the Russians to win the election that he had no intention of winning.
 
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