So, you think this memo thing has legs?

[Aglaopheme]

Tho one I can't quite figure out is Ohr. He dutifully reports that Steele is a raging partisan with an axe to grind which leads to the FBI's termination of Steele as a credible source. Then proceeds to continue to feed his superiors with information from Steele via the middle agent Fusion GPS. Was he ordered to do so by his superiors? He starts out looking like a squared away agent and then it appears he was compromised somewhere along the way.

That is patently false. Steele was never terminated as a credible source. Can you source that?

We knew that FISA requests had all been turned down before the use of the dossier. The Democrats knew it too, their people got to read the same documents as did Trey Gowdy. They knew what was in it and assumed that it would not see the light of day which is why they are currently scrambling and squawking.




I think by collusion, they mean behind the scenes leaking by the Trump Administration to Nunez because of the White House meeting where Nunez affirmed that there had been a conspiracy between the FBI and Justice to destroy him and his Presidency.

What FISA warrants had been turned down? Can you source that?

 

[Rightguide]

On the one hand, I can see a lot of people now on the government payroll spending time in Club Fed. This could be a significant scandal.
On the other, I can see a lot of nothing coming from this. Maybe I'm misreading the scope of involvement of the people at the top, or maybe they'll just skate like they always seem to. I still can't believe a half-dozen IRS honchos weren't charged - but that was then.
What do you think? Do you care? You want fries with that?

I listened to a radio legal expert, a former prosecutor, claim he could develop a 30 count indictment based on the Memo alone. This memo is only about 10% of what is coming down the pipe.

Three House committees have opened two new investigations regarding the Hillary Clinton affair and Sessions has turned over the accusations in Nunes memo to the Inspector General.

I predict this whole affair will be turned over to either a new Special Prosecutor or a senior Federal prosecutor in the DOJ after the Inspector General's report is released. The IG report will be massive in scale.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

There should be some legs involved but IF any anything substantial will happen remains to be seen. I don't even know how to count the wrongs and laws and regulations broken in this...fucked up shit.

Awww fiddlesticks. And to think you were so giddy a few days ago over that shitshow SOTU and The Wall (That Will Never Be Built.)

The mojo's been sucked outta ya thanks to this lame-o memo. Cheer up, pally!

 

[RobDownSouth]

The password is "cherry-picked."

Exactly. The Nunes Memo (written by Kashyap Patel, who was censured in federal court for ineptitude in 2016), is a cherry-picked, context-free stew of conspiracy theories.

The whole reason for this memo is to give political cover to President Trump so that he may fire Muller's boss. Muller's boss refuses to put fealty to the President above the Constitution.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Exactly. The Nunes Memo (written by Kashyap Patel, who was censured in federal court for ineptitude in 2016), is a cherry-picked, context-free stew of conspiracy theories.

The whole reason for this memo is to give political cover to President Trump so that he may fire Muller's boss. Muller's boss refuses to put fealty to the President above the Constitution.

The Constitution? That old rag? I thought the previous guy tore that thing up.

 

[Rightguide]

That is patently false. Steele was never terminated as a credible source. Can you source that?

You need to read page 4 in the Nunes memo, here:
https://www.scribd.com/document/370599093/FISA-memo-Full-text#fullscreen&from_embed


You need to read the 99 page FISA Court report on illegal activities by the FBI and the DOJ relevant to the matters addressed in the 4 page Nunes Memo here (bet you didn't know of its existence):

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf

And above all Joe DiGenova's (former federal prosecutor and Special Counsel) explanation of both the 99 page Fisa Court report and it's relevance to the the events addressed in the Nunes memo, here:

https://youtu.be/aa95jLxZfc4

You can also view the video here:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...to_exonerate_hillary_clinton_is_a_felony.html

You're welcome

 

[jimd556]

It seems pretty clear that Strzok and Page intended to, and probably did, illegally abuse their positions.

Further, if their texts are accurate, then so did McCabe, Comey, and Lynch.

What bothers me is that the GOP released their memo and suppressed the Dems' response. This is potentially too serious of a scandal to play politics.

Why would you assume anything Nunes produces has a chance of being accurate?

 

[jimd556]

I listened to a radio legal expert, a former prosecutor, claim he could develop a 30 count indictment based on the Memo alone. This memo is only about 10% of what is coming down the pipe.

Three House committees have opened two new investigations regarding the Hillary Clinton affair and Sessions has turned over the accusations in Nunes memo to the Inspector General.

I predict this whole affair will be turned over to either a new Special Prosecutor or a senior Federal prosecutor in the DOJ after the Inspector General's report is released. The IG report will be massive in scale.

Session and Nunes, you mean two guys who had to recuse themselves from all Russian matters due to their deception and corruption? Those two are your great white hopes?

 

[adrina]

Sigh. The Daily Caller. Perhaps Mr. DiGenova would have less credibility problems if he was talking to a "news" group that wasn't so obviously biased and has serious issues with these things we call "facts".

This is like quoting the bible to prove the infallibility of the bible.



After reviewing his videos, the thing that struck me the most was how much he was singing to the choir.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

I listened to a radio legal expert, a former prosecutor, claim he could develop a 30 count indictment based on the Memo alone. This memo is only about 10% of what is coming down the pipe.

Three House committees have opened two new investigations regarding the Hillary Clinton affair and Sessions has turned over the accusations in Nunes memo to the Inspector General.

I predict this whole affair will be turned over to either a new Special Prosecutor or a senior Federal prosecutor in the DOJ after the Inspector General's report is released. The IG report will be massive in scale.

And when nothing happens, what will you say then?

 

[Rightguide]

Session and Nunes, you mean two guys who had to recuse themselves from all Russian matters due to their deception and corruption? Those two are your great white hopes?

Nunes chose to step down when he became the target of a smear campaign by Democrats that would up in the ethics committee where he was totally exonerated. You are misinformed and plain full of shit as well. Nunes is the elected Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, a committee with constitutional oversight on specific departments of the government created by the Congress that conduct intelligence operations for the Government. Show us examples of the corruption and deception you just accused him off.

 

[Rightguide]

And when nothing happens, what will you say then?

I'll say what I said when they covered up Hillary's felonies, the fix is in.

 

[Rightguide]

Why would you assume anything Nunes produces has a chance of being accurate?

Why are you such an idiot? Why wouldn't he be accurate in his findings which were the findings of the committee majority? Outline for us those aspects of the memo that are inaccurate?

 

[Luk]

I listened to a radio legal expert

Rush isn't an expert on anything but scripts and mistresses.

This memo is only about 10% of what is coming down the pipe.

ORLY? Thanks for the keen insight, vette. I'll bump your Billion Dollar a Day thread.

Hillary Clinton

But Hillary!

I predict

Oh, good. NostraDumbass has a "prediction".

 

[Hypoxia]

The Constitution? That old rag? I thought the previous guy tore that thing up.

That's exactly what Dubya said and did. "The Constitution is just a scrap of paper," said GWB. Then he started bogus foreign wars, built the national security state, and gutted the economy. That's what happens when a luzer is installed in the White House.

Another luzer is installed there now, one who got bored with Article I Section 3 and didn't bother hearing about the rest of the Constitution. All he knows is, whatever a POTUS does is Presidential, so he's immune. Fine. You're fired.

 

[Aglaopheme]

You need to read page 4 in the Nunes memo, here:
https://www.scribd.com/document/370599093/FISA-memo-Full-text#fullscreen&from_embed


You need to read the 99 page FISA Court report on illegal activities by the FBI and the DOJ relevant to the matters addressed in the 4 page Nunes Memo here (bet you didn't know of its existence):

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf

And above all Joe DiGenova's (former federal prosecutor and Special Counsel) explanation of both the 99 page Fisa Court report and it's relevance to the the events addressed in the Nunes memo, here:

https://youtu.be/aa95jLxZfc4

You can also view the video here:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...to_exonerate_hillary_clinton_is_a_felony.html

You're welcome

Forgive me is I don’t accept the memo itself as a source to source the memo.

Perhaps you could parse down the 99 pages? I started reading and I’m not seeing what your saying is there.

 

[cowslinger64]

I'll say what I said when they covered up Hillary's felonies, the fix is in.

For as much as she's been scrutinized and investigated, either she's not guilty and/or smarter than the entire republican party and/or you people really are fuckin stupid. Perhaps that explains the hate for her, and Bill.


BTW.. I don't care for her either..

 

[TalkRadio]

Outcry over the Nunes memo is damning for Democrats and FBI

The release of the four-page memo by the House Intelligence Committee has triggered preset responses from both sides. The memo is, in fact, enlightening in a number of respects. However, the most alarming elements may be what it does not contain.

First, it is important to start with what we previously knew. At the heart of this controversy is the dossier that was compiled by Christopher Steele, a former British spy, and Fusion GPS with funding from Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee. Previously, Clinton’s top campaign lawyer, Marc Elias, and former campaign chairman, John Podesta, denied any connection to the dossier. After news stores confirmed the funding, Elias and Clinton herself admitted that they did fund this effort.

The memo states that the applications never mentioned that the dossier was funded in significant part by the Clinton campaign, even though high-ranking officials knew about that funding. That would obviously be highly material to judging the value of the information. To make matters worse, Steele admitted to FBI agent Bruce Orr, who was later demoted, that he hated Trump and was “desperate that Donald Trump not be elected and was passionate about his not being president.”

However, my greatest concern is what is not in the dossier: classified information “jeopardizing national security.” Leaders like Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) declared that the committee had moved beyond “dangerous irresponsibility and disregard for our national security” and “disregarded the warnings of the Justice Department and the FBI.” Now we can read the memo. There is a sharp and alarming disconnect between the descriptions of Pelosi and the House Intelligence Committee’s Ranking Minority Member Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and the actual document. It clearly does not contain information that would reveal sources or methods.

http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciar...e-nunes-memo-is-damning-for-democrats-and-fbi

 

[WoundedKnee]

Tho one I can't quite figure out is Ohr. He dutifully reports that Steele is a raging partisan with an axe to grind which leads to the FBI's termination of Steele as a credible source. Then proceeds to continue to feed his superiors with information from Steele via the middle agent Fusion GPS. Was he ordered to do so by his superiors? He starts out looking like a squared away agent and then it appears he was compromised somewhere along the way.

I think in a recent VDH article, the nail was somewhat hit on the head, in this case maybe obliquely, that for these career bureaucrats, self-preservation is the paramount decision maker, and again, with the knowledge that Clinton was going to win the election (possibly, probably, in landslide) put a lot of integrity on the back burner. Everyone was anticipating a promotion if they protected the next President and retribution (and we all know that Hillary settles old scores) if they did not.

 

[BobBalouski]

So, you think this memo thing has legs?

Doesn't need legs: progressives & their deep state-loving cousin RINOs keep giving it all the knee service it needs. Don't even have to toss the bozos a quarter.

 

[WoundedKnee]

That is patently false. Steele was never terminated as a credible source. Can you source that?




What FISA warrants had been turned down? Can you source that?

http://theweek.com/speedreads/67250...rned-down-fbi-request-monitor-trump-officials

Here and in the reported testimony of the man who was recently fired.

That was just a quick search.

 

[bellisarius]

I think in a recent VDH article, the nail was somewhat hit on the head, in this case maybe obliquely, that for these career bureaucrats, self-preservation is the paramount decision maker, and again, with the knowledge that Clinton was going to win the election (possibly, probably, in landslide) put a lot of integrity on the back burner. Everyone was anticipating a promotion if they protected the next President and retribution (and we all know that Hillary settles old scores) if they did not.

There is that.

The Mueller investigation will continue unabated, this memo really has nothing to do with his investigation. BUT, there is one possible fall out. Mueller has been trying to chase down the "obstruction of justice" mink hole re. Comey's ouster. The memo lays out a strong case that his ouster was 'for cause' even if not addressing the subject directly.

 

[WoundedKnee]

My understanding is that the President did not even need so much as cause. It is clear that he should have had all of the DOJ tender their resignations upon being sworn in.

 

[bellisarius]

My understanding is that the President did not even need so much as cause. It is clear that he should have had all of the DOJ tender their resignations upon being sworn in.

He doesn't.

 

[cleaver]

certainly the memo has legs...

...of the blue smoke and mirror type


the rabble has clamored now for weeks to see this next to nothingness;
focusing not on the bigger picture issues
and having not the time to pull at more viable vapour trails...

the russians were in the campaign...
(if only tangentially ?)

but look at all the spinning plates

please, parse painfully at this latest cliffhanger...
the truth may be out there,
but not necessarily in this latest smoke bomblet...

#ratings=noise