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DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS GIFT OF SALVATION BELIEVING HE DIED N ROSE AGAIN FOR YOUR SINS?

  • YES

    Votes: 48 16.4%

  • NO

    Votes: 148 50.5%

  • I ALREADY ACCEPTED JESUS GIFT OF SALVATION BEFORE

    Votes: 62 21.2%

  • OTHER

    Votes: 35 11.9%
  • Total voters
    293
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Que said:
Other than rudely insisting that others follow your peculiar brand of Christianity what is it that you are willing to do for the Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ?
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By sharing the Gospel I am doing what God wants me to do.
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
By sharing the Gospel I am doing what God wants me to do.
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Is it your understanding of the Gospel is that it's a multi-level marketing plan that your entire job is not to sell the soap for Amway but to sign up other people for Amway?

Signing up recruits was not what Christ spent his time doing.
 
Que said:
Is it your understanding of the Gospel is that it's a multi-level marketing plan that your entire job is not to sell the soap for Amway but to sign up other people for Amway?

Signing up recruits was not what Christ spent his time doing.
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Jesus abd His disciples did spread the gospel. It all they did.
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
Jesus abd His disciples did spread the gospel. It all they did.
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Jehovah commanded all the Hebrews to worship Him, period. Jesus and his team hit people up one at a time and offered them eternal life for their belief. Do you really think those two are related?
 
phrodeau said:
Jehovah commanded all the Hebrews to worship Him, period. Jesus and his team hit people up one at a time and offered them eternal life for their belief. Do you really think those two are related?
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Jesus made it very clear that HE is Jehovah.
 
phrodeau said:
All things dull and ugly,
All creatures short and squat,
All things rude and nasty,
The Lord God made the lot.
Each little snake that poisons,
Each little wasp that stings,
He made their brutish venom.
He made their horrid wings.

All things sick and cancerous,
All evil great and small,
All things foul and dangerous,
The Lord God made them all.

Each nasty little hornet,
Each beastly little squid--
Who made the spikey urchin?
Who made the sharks? He did!

All things scabbed and ulcerous,
All pox both great and small,
Putrid, foul and gangrenous,
The Lord God made them all.

Amen.

---Monty Python
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God made them all, but He didn't create them that way.
 
phrodeau said:
You claim that Jehovah made the sun, moon, stars and everything on earth, and all Jesus made was some wine and a few loaves and fishes.
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Jesus Christ IS Jehovah. The Bible clearly states that all things were created by Him and through Him. The Bible clearly states tgat He is God. Jesus was merely demonstrating who He was by the miracles He performed.
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
Jesus Christ IS Jehovah. The Bible clearly states that all things were created by Him and through Him. The Bible clearly states tgat He is God. Jesus was merely demonstrating who He was by the miracles He performed.
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Really? I thought God needed to be mysterious.

If Jesus really wanted to demonstrate divinity, He'd put another moon in the sky.
 
phrodeau said:
Really? I thought God needed to be mysterious.

If Jesus really wanted to demonstrate divinity, He'd put another moon in the sky.
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He's gonna do things the way that HE wants to do things. He always leaves room for the unbelieving to continue to dismiss.
 
When I see Xfrodos contibutions here, I sympathise with the views of the Christian, Thomas Aquinas and the Jew, Moses Maimonedes, that the ignorant and uneducated like xfrodo need simple belief to support them, whereas the superior scientific explanation of the world, requires a superior and trained mind.

Come to think of it Averroes and Aristotle had already come to the same conclusion.

All these four philosophers and theologians sought to reconcile belief with reason. It's Xfrodo's and his fellow travellers tragedy, that he and they utterly lack the mental capacity to even consider the issue. The apparent conundrum makes them uncomfortable, so they retreat into inane, unreasoning belief. Bit sad really.:)
 
ishtat said:
When I see Xfrodos contibutions here, I sympathise with the views of the Christian, Thomas Aquinas and the Jew, Moses Maimonedes, that the ignorant and uneducated like xfrodo need simple belief to support them, whereas the superior scientific explanation of the world, requires a superior and trained mind.

Come to think of it Averroes and Aristotle had already come to the same conclusion.

All these four philosophers and theologians sought to reconcile belief with reason. It's Xfrodo's and his fellow travellers tragedy, that he and they utterly lack the mental capacity to even consider the issue. The apparent conundrum makes them uncomfortable, so they retreat into inane, unreasoning belief. Bit sad really.:)
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Well I guess being a Christian makes me a fellow traveler. Honestly, your post seems a little bit of a cop out. It's like watching kids on the playground argue and one kid yells "oh yah, I'm smarter than you." Usually that means there's not much of an argument left in the youngster.

I'm not dumb. I am not anti-science.

I like what C.S. Lewis wrote:

… God is no fonder of intellectual slackers than of any other slackers. If you are thinking of becoming a Christian, I warn you you are embarking on something which is going to take the whole of you, brains and all. But, fortunately, it works the other way round. Anyone who is honestly trying to be a Christian will soon find his intelligence being sharpened: one of the reasons why it needs no special education to be a Christian is that Christianity is an education itself. That is why an uneducated believer like Bunyan was able to write a book [The Pilgrim’s Progress] that has astonished the whole world.
 
ishtat said:
When I see Xfrodos contibutions here, I sympathise with the views of the Christian, Thomas Aquinas and the Jew, Moses Maimonedes, that the ignorant and uneducated like xfrodo need simple belief to support them, whereas the superior scientific explanation of the world, requires a superior and trained mind.

Come to think of it Averroes and Aristotle had already come to the same conclusion.

All these four philosophers and theologians sought to reconcile belief with reason. It's Xfrodo's and his fellow travellers tragedy, that he and they utterly lack the mental capacity to even consider the issue. The apparent conundrum makes them uncomfortable, so they retreat into inane, unreasoning belief. Bit sad really.:)
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The actual Scientific evidence supports what I believe. Thomas Aquinas would agree with me. Never heard of Moses Maimonedes. It's too bad that you think I am uneducated. I went to a secular University, so that must be something wrong it Secular Universities I guess? Maybe I should have went to a Christian one and gotten a better education.
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
The actual Scientific evidence supports what I believe. Thomas Aquinas would agree with me. Never heard of Moses Maimonedes. It's too bad that you think I am uneducated. I went to a secular University, so that must be something wrong it Secular Universities I guess? Maybe I should have went to a Christian one and gotten a better education.
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Every single miracle recounted in the Bible is scientifically impossible. They wouldn't be called miracles if they were otherwise.
 
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