Will the end of Net Neutrality kill Literotica.com?

[MagnusRichard]

Will Literotica.com and other "adult" sites be able to exist without Net Neutrality?

My first glimpse of a world without strong protections for net neutrality was in 2004, when I was part of the team that created Facebook. Though it’s hard to imagine now, TheFacebook (as it was called at the time) was just a fledgling college social network, growing school by school. Some colleges didn’t like Facebook, and because they functioned as their students’ internet providers, they would simply block the site.

While those blocks were always rolled back — often after sustained student outcry — they acutely demonstrated the power of providers to limit the freedom and openness of the internet at whim. It is not too far-fetched to suggest that had schools been more aggressive and unrelenting in blocking Facebook in those early days, the company might not exist today.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/...lick&contentCollection=Opinion&pgtype=article

 

[Bert Notorius]

Video killed the radio star 1979

 

[BobBalouski]

What is wrong with Internet service providers censoring and throttling whatever content and services they choose? What is wrong with universities and colleges doing the same? What is wrong with this website censoring content any way they wish? This entire net neutrality issue confuses me because the pro-side of it seems to favor government having full power over Internet censorship and throttling rules, yet then they also seem to complain (like in the first post) about providers and websites already exercising their own censorship and throttling rules? If you're truly against censorship and throttling content and services, how could you complain about the latter and not the former, too?

It's like a hundred hamburger joints exist, all offering different burgers at different prices, with maybe dozens of burger Nazis running some of the places. And then government decides it's going to pronounce burger neutralization rules to make everything fair. I'd rather just deal with the burger owners directly - even the Nazis - than also then have to deal with government's even more powerful censorship and throttling rules.

I think this net neutrality issue has only been popular for the last three or four years? The rules themselves I read have only been in effect since 2015? Using the most familiar comparison point, this website, did the lack of net neutrality before 2015 affect it in any way? Have the net neutrality rules in effect the last two years affected it any different? Is there any difference between how this website censors its contents, or chooses to provide or not provide certain services to its users, today compared to five years ago?

Government (and many still do) used to censor and throttle basically everything about sexuality, remember? Then more lenient government came into power and instituted more relaxed rules. So it really depends on which positions the current government in power holds that determines all so-called neutrality or not on basically all issues. Just like ISPs do for themselves, just like colleges and universities do for themselves, just like websites like this one does for itself.

If censorship and throttling is going to exist, and both always do to varying degrees, I prefer it to be applied as close to home as possible. All government, no matter which party is in power, should stay totally out of the Internet business just as naturally as it has no place in anyone's bedroom business.

 

[MagnusRichard]

Does Literotica have a forum for educated people?

 

[Hypoxia]

What is wrong with Internet service providers censoring and throttling whatever content and services they choose?

Common carriers don't enjoy that luxury.

 

[BotanyBoy]

What is wrong with Internet service providers censoring and throttling whatever content and services they choose?

Freedom, liberty, capitalism and the American pursuit of happiness not only offend to no end but terrify the fucking shit out of all the leftist.

That's what is wrong.

Common carriers don't enjoy that luxury.

Sounds like a bad bidnizz model then.

 

[ChadwickDMoss]

This place clearly makes very little demand of Internet bandwidth and as such will be ignored.

 

[MagnusRichard]

They could start updating the posts here what, once a day?

 

[ChadwickDMoss]

They should install clickbait banners; they have captured the perfect audience with which to create that sort of sordid revenue.

 

[WoundedKnee]

Will Literotica.com and other "adult" sites be able to exist without Net Neutrality?



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/...lick&contentCollection=Opinion&pgtype=article

Fucking Billionaires whining about lack of opportunity? Jesus H. Christ, give me a break.

 

[TJX]

Education and intelligence are two different things. It's usually the educated who get confused about this.

 

[te_mp]

Freedom, liberty, capitalism and the American pursuit of happiness not only offend to no end but terrify the fucking shit out of all the leftist.

That's what is wrong.

Sounds like a bad bidnizz model then.

I really don't understand your point, BB.
How can you talk about freedom and liberty when referring to Ajit Pai's proposal? (That internet providers should censor aka speed or delay connection to certain links as they please?)

 

[about_average]

Should phone companies be allowed to prevent 50% of Bill's phone calls from going through but allow all of Mark's go through because he pays for the extra "Premium Call Service"?

This place clearly makes very little demand of Internet bandwidth and as such will be ignored.

^This.
For the most part now.
Though ISP's, knowing how popular porn sites are, could start their own and slow all others.

 

[WoundedKnee]

I really don't understand your point, BB.
How can you talk about freedom and liberty when referring to Ajit Pai's proposal? (That internet providers should censor aka speed or delay connection to certain links as they please?)

Whose freedom are we talking about? The consumer? The business? The shareholder? Are we to dictate to business what they must do for the consumer? Is this a successful business model? Yes, you may own your business, your plant, your equipment, but we will direct/manage your business, services and products.

Said the government to the baker: You must bake theme cakes for same-sex marriages, but we will charge you with hate speech crime if you bake cakes with positive messages for traditional conservative marriages.

 

[Rightguide]

Whose freedom are we talking about? The consumer? The business? The shareholder? Are we to dictate to business what they must do for the consumer? Is this a successful business model? Yes, you may own your business, your plant, your equipment, but we will direct/manage your business, services and products.

Said the government to the baker: You must bake theme cakes for same-sex marriages, but we will charge you with hate speech crime if you bake cakes with positive messages for traditional conservative marriages.

Government controls every aspect of private business.

 

[WoundedKnee]

Should phone companies be allowed to prevent 50% of Bill's phone calls from going through but allow all of Mark's go through because he pays for the extra "Premium Call Service"?

^This.
For the most part now.
Though ISP's, knowing how popular porn sites are, could start their own and slow all others.

So what? ISPs have to make business choices, they have to compete, they have to make salary and in many cases they have to attract investors and answer to them for the price of their stock. Perhaps some enterprising ISP would purchase Literotica and elevate it above all others allowing Laurel and Manu to retire or start a new enterprise. When you dictate winners for fear of creating losers, you mainly get losers and higher prices.

 

[WoundedKnee]

Government controls every aspect of private business.

Every aspect? It tells Nike which shoes and athletes they must produce and endorse?

 

[jaF0]

T'were it up to me, FakeBook and The Twits would be totally blocked, like a bad case of constipation and plugged up crap they are.

Meanwhile, Lit would be the official news source of the US Government.

 

[WoundedKnee]

So, everyone goes back to using MySpace?

 

[MagnusRichard]

Without net neutrality, free porn and amateur porn will be in trouble.
No revenue streams means no distributors.
Yes, some will pay extra for access to a porn bundle on their internet bill.

 

[WoundedKnee]

I don't get that. The revenue stream is me to the ISP. Why would they get rid of the driving innovator of internet technology/viewership?

 

[MagnusRichard]

I don't get that. The revenue stream is me to the ISP. Why would they get rid of the driving innovator of internet technology/viewership?

You know that grocery stores get paid for shelf space, yes?
And that end displays cost more.

Mom and pop soda companies cant afford to sell in grocery stores.

 

[WoundedKnee]

Two differing business models. My television Service Provider used to want me to pay for HBO, but to stay competitive and retain my business, I now get free HBO (a dog with fleas) just the same as my grocery store offers me great bargains on their contracted "value" brands that don't pay for shelf space, don't run commercials, but keep the consumer coming in. Like the scene in My Cousin Vinny, Why not this brand of beans? It's just a few cents more. You're paying for the advertising. If amateur porn keeps viewers paying for your service, you're going to have bargain-basement grainy poor-quality porn right next to the stuff you're willing to pay for, you pervert.

 

[Pacifica112]

Government controls every aspect of private business.

If you mean "controls" through regulation, I will agree to a certain point. I'm a business owner, and work with a lot of other business owners in my area; most of the regulation I see, hear of and abide by relate to consumer safety/protection and fair business practices.

But I'm lucky enough to be in business in a very business-friendly state; I was in the process of starting a business in California, but the amount of hoops I'd have to jump through to even get up and running were just crazy. I wouldn't start or run a business in California for ANY amount of money.

 

[WoundedKnee]

Mom and Pop Soda Companies???


Most value brands are made by the same producers of the shelf-space purchasers. They just have a guaranteed contract and have agreed to eat the cost of return of product. Craft brewers are certainly mom and pop, but sometimes they get so successful (Samuel Adams) and stores pick them up to create consumer choice and increase foot traffic, but don't worry, you'll still be able to get your green Bud Lite at a very low price ya old drunk.