Bergdahl

[Ramone45]

No jail time. He should be hanged. Brave men died for this POS.

 

[BBthrives]

HO-BS packed Court with Leftist Tranz n Gimpz n Fagz n Shit

 

[Ramone45]

Where's he going to live? He should go back to Afghanistan. He's going to have to watch his back.

 

[sr71plt]

I think Bergdahl should get some jail time for the effort that was taken to find and "save" him, but you can thank your moron hero Dump for screwing that up. By publicly saying he should be executed, Dump has screwed up the justice process. It's a slam dunk now for Bergdahl's lawyers to successfully sue that prosecution of Bergdahl is hopelessly prejudiced by Dump--doing yet another thing the president of the United States should never, ever do.

 

[Trigger_Warning]

Every honorably serving veteran, past and present, should be disgusted with the sentencing of Sgt. Berghdal. Every American citizen should be equally pissed. This is beyond absurd. Five violent terrorists back in enemy hands, numerous soldiers killed and wounded looking for his cowardly ass, and NO jail time. This is the definition of a travesty of justice.

 

[RobDownSouth]

It was an unpopular verdict, but it was the correct verdict.

Three words: Undue. Command. Influence.

Because candidate Trump talks, Bergdahl walks.

This is completely on Trump.

Had Trump simply kept his mouth shut, Bergdahl would be doing hard time.

Actions have consequences.

 

[pointless]

this song keeps popping into my head because that's just how my brain works.

 

[sr71plt]

At least Bergdahl made an attempt to serve in the military, something Trump never did.

 

[phrodeau]

Nobody died searching for Bergdahl.

The prisoners exchanged for him are under house arrest in Qatar.

Look things up.

 

[sr71plt]

I don't think people have to die for what they did do and the danger they took on to be factored in. A lot of people put themselves in danger to bring back someone they had no reason to know walked off on his own and without considering the danger he put others in. I think that was worth some more prison time. I think he got punished plenty for the decision to walk off, but I think he should have been given some time to wake him up on what he put his mates through.

I've worked in embassies and have had to expend energy and risk a bit of danger to bring back Americans we repeated told not to go where they went in the first place. I'd give them a bit of prison time too.

But in Dump's moronic response on this, I don't see that it is too late to stick a rifle in his hand and stand him next to a barbed wire fence in Afghanistan for a while and see how well he'd do with the pressure.

And as far as treason is considered, any Bergdahl committed pales in the face of the treason Donald is committing.

 

[Comshaw]

What is forgotten is he has already done time, 5 years as a prisoner of ISIS. I for one think that and a DD is enough punishment. As pointed out during his trial he has mental problems. That should and was factored in to the decision by the judge. No one died searching for him. That was all made up bullshit. There was injuries and wounds, but no deaths. I think the judge made the right call.


Comshaw

 

[sr71plt]

I did take the time in captivity into account. For punishment purposes that gets his attention on his decision to defect. That doesn't bring home to him that he endangered his mates. I think he deserves some separate "and this is for that" judgment for that.

He's just damn lucky the Trump was such a moron about his pronouncements on the case. The judges factored that in too.

 

[Comshaw]

I did take the time in captivity into account. For punishment purposes that gets his attention on his decision to defect. That doesn't bring home to him that he endangered his mates. I think he deserves some separate "and this is for that" judgment for that.

He's just damn lucky the Trump was such a moron about his pronouncements on the case. The judges factored that in too.

He didn't try to defect. He went AWOL, deserted yes, but did not defect or try to. Any time we give him here in our prisons would be like a walk in the park after enduring the time with ISIS. Beating a dead horse isn't going accomplish anything. He has to livewith this the rest of his life too. I think that's enough.



Comshaw

 

[BotanyBoy]

It was an unpopular verdict, but it was the correct verdict.

Three words: Undue. Command. Influence.

Because candidate Trump talks, Bergdahl walks.

This is completely on Trump.

Had Trump simply kept his mouth shut, Bergdahl would be doing hard time.

Actions have consequences.

No, it's on who made the final call on the sentencing.



This is a rather clear case of shitbags covering a buddy fucker.

 

[Dr. Groove]

Do we always sentence jail time when a personal failure costs American lives?

Bergdahl failed significantly, and his error cost lives. Can we not muster any empathy?

There's no evidence of bad intentions or direct causation. No other mistakes or bad decisions ever cost another soldier's life?

Did we shout for hanging or jail time when we found out friendly fire took out Tillman? (I'm asking - but all I found was that we have not released any findings on the specific shooter(s))

The dude did five years as a tortured POW. My guess is he's pretty aware he fucked up.

I have compassion for the losses on our side, but I don't get the venom. We're going to have to hang a lot of motherfuckers if this is all it takes.

We have lost the concept of empathy and likely loyalty as well.

 

[sr71plt]

Do we always sentence jail time when a personal failure costs American lives?

Bergdahl failed significantly, and his error cost lives. Can we not muster any empathy?

What lives did it cost?

And, yes we can muster empathy. As recently as WWII, treason could result in summary execution. Not doing that is mustering empathy.

 

[Dr. Groove]

could have
Do we always sentence jail time when a personal failure ^ costs American lives?

Bergdahl failed significantly, and his error cost lives. Can we not muster any empathy?

What lives did it cost?

And, yes we can muster empathy. As recently as WWII, treason could result in summary execution. Not doing that is mustering empathy.

Good point. He jeopardized lives.

Bergdahl No jail time. He should be hanged. Brave men died for this POS.

I don't know where I got that idea. So calling for his hanging isn't mustering empathy, amirite?

 

[adrina]

An interesting read.

 

[Hypoxia]

An interesting read.

VERY interesting. The Army is hiding the real story.

The Army shares the blame for this tragedy. In 2006, Bergdahl washed out of Coast Guard basic training with a mental breakdown. In 2008, the Army issued him a waiver and deployed him to one of the world’s most dangerous war zones. This, despite the fact that an Army psychiatry board determined that at the time of his deployment he suffered from “a severe mental disease or defect.” In Afghanistan, his superiors ignored a concerned report about Bergdahl’s mental state from a sergeant in his platoon.

Meanwhile, young Bowe Bergdahl is now fully fucked. Staying Stateside, someone will kill him. He'd best disappear into anonymity abroad.

 

[jaF0]

I say run him for President in '20 on the (R) ticket. Hail someone who was willing to stand up against things that were so wrong.

 

[jaF0]

....

With no title or artist, I have no idea what you're referring to. That's how MY brain works.

I'm often reminded of this Floyd line though ....

'Did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?'

 

[Hypoxia]

I say run him for President in '20 on the (R) ticket. Hail someone who was willing to stand up against things that were so wrong.

Dye his hair orange?

 

[phrodeau]

Maybe they can swap Bowe’s sentence with Joe Arpaio’s.

 

[klippert]

once he signs a book/movie deal...every Solider and Marine should sue him into the poor house...

 

[adrina]

VERY interesting. The Army is hiding the real story.

Meanwhile, young Bowe Bergdahl is now fully fucked. Staying Stateside, someone will kill him. He'd best disappear into anonymity abroad.

Also from the Newsweek story:

The Pentagon’s inconvenient problem here is that the Army has never explained why Andrews, or any infantry platoon, was searching for Bergdahl nearly two months after officials believed his captors had moved him to Pakistan. As Newsweek reported in April, elite Army units were waved off the search within a week of his disappearance, and military sources told ABC News on July 20 that Bergdahl was in Pakistan. Pentagon public affairs insisted he wasn’t, and in an interview that day in New Delhi, India, then–Secretary of State Hillary Clinton dodged the question.

It all leads to the troubling question: Why search for Bergdahl in Afghanistan when solid intelligence placed him in another country? Several military sources—enlisted men and officers—tell Newsweek the Army used the Bergdahl crisis to gain a strategic advantage in the war. “It was common knowledge that commanders in the field used searching for Bergdahl as a justification for more aggressive tactics to achieve stability in the area,” the former senior Defense Department official says. “Everyone knew it was going on.”

A former officer who served in the region at the time says the searches were a versatile tactic. “It was a good excuse,” because missions that included “personnel recovery” were granted greater assets and quicker approval for raids on Afghan villages and homes, he says. Some officers “were using that code to request assets months after the fact…. ‘Bergdahl’ became a language tactic to get assets.”