Patsy, Nutcase,ISIS convert or Manchurian Candidate?

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I have been following every new report on the Vegas shooting and it's like a jigsaw puzzle where no pieces match.


Paddock bought some 30 guns in the last year spreading the purchases over different shops in various states.
Had bought 50lbs of Ammonium nitrate
Approx. 15lbs of Tannerite used for exploding targets.
Reported his car was parked in the parking lot for 2 days and it rigged as a bomb to go off. Left that for a bomb sniffing dog to find I guess.
He set up cameras in the hallway under a do not disturb sign, to see approaching police , but we're told they did not work so what was the point?
He set up a camera in his room to record the massacre but no recording? Did he forget the batteries? Is there a recording being withheld?
How did he break the hurricane resistant glass windows (using a hammer like tool)when ordinary hurricane windows for homes are rated to withstand impact of objects in 155mph winds? He had to be smacking the shit out of them.

Nobody noticed falling glass from the hotel window as it was broken? Why did he risk breaking open 2 windows and being discovered prematurely?

He had 23 rifles in the room, how did he get them all up there without drawing attention? Housekeeping? Room service? UPS delivery?
Why would he need 23 rifles and thousands of rnds of ammo? Even if he could shoot one in each arm like Rambo, that's a bit much for someone his age, physical condition.

It was reported he took many cruises to Europe and trips to the middle east , did he get converted there?
There were empty shell casings everywhere in the room, everywhere.
Yet when the room was breached his body was on the floor, no blood on any shell casings, hard to believe there was no splatter.

Did anyone even bother to check for a pulse or take the temperature of the body?

There are reports of witnesses swearing there was more than 1 shooter in the windows. Why have we not heard from them? The Sheriff said he believes Paddock had help. That much makes sense.

I have not heard the report of any FBI agent(s) being put in charge of the investigation, why?


So I originally thought Paddock was likely a Manchurian Candidate . The more I hear reported the more I think that's not it.

Next thought, ok maybe he just went nuts? That doesn't seem too likely now.
Parts of his actions sound like he was following a well thought out plan, then other parts seem like he ran out of time to prepare(the hallway cameras not working, no recording of shooting)

Now I'm thinking this was a sting that went bad, he was working with the feds to catch some ISIS wannabes. Maybe the Jihadi showed up unexpectedly, shot him and then waited to shoot up concert and took off. It was reported the Massacre went on for 10 min. It was also reported when the door was breached the shooting had stopped for some time. Timeline conflicts or maybe the explanation doesn't fit the events?

Did the real shooter(s) get away free? Is that why the feds are content to let the Las Vegas Sheriff be the face of the investigation?

None of this makes sense, not the trying to understand crazy person sense, the pieces just don't fit kind of sense.
 
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The valium turned him into a monster. Did you see he had no health insurance? Had to pay full retail for his drugs. Just like 4est.
 
Brian Ross on ABC news reported tonight Paddock's IRS filing for 2015 listed 5 million as income from being a professional gambler. That will buy a lot of pills.

This is going to turn out to be like the Kennedy Assassination. We'll never know the truth outside of many people were killed and wounded.
 
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The asshole was obviously obeying orders from Team Tromp to create a vivid diversion from the actual shit that's flowing down and will soon become apparent. It's a show, folks. Watch the bright objects. Ignore the dark gloved hand approaching the lever...
 
I agree that a lot doesn't add up
Sounds kinda fucked up
Show me a reason
It took too much planning for somebody just gone off the rails
And never trust your government
 
i know, right?

why is it SO impossible to accept a rich white older guy was a fucking murderous bastard? IF he was a genuine psychopath, it's perfectly feasible that no one would know the real him.

Because 58 dead & over 500 wounded, which is not the MO of your average old white fucking murderous bastard. There is more to this, it's as simple as that.
 
Because 58 dead & over 500 wounded, which is not the MO of your average old white fucking murderous bastard. There is more to this, it's as simple as that.
:rolleyes:

well, that remains to be seen.

just because some people (many people!) cannot imagine how it's possible doesn't make it impossible. unlikely, unusual, but certainly not impossible. and IF this murderer acted alone, how much easier his task would be for being white, older, rich, and previously not in trouble with the law? everyone's busy looking for browner-skinned muslim ISISy-looking types!
 
Because 58 dead & over 500 wounded, which is not the MO of your average old white fucking murderous bastard. There is more to this, it's as simple as that.
The only thing above average is the number of dead and wounded, which is all on the bump stock.
 
:rolleyes:

well, that remains to be seen.

just because some people (many people!) cannot imagine how it's possible doesn't make it impossible. unlikely, unusual, but certainly not impossible. and IF this murderer acted alone, how much easier his task would be for being white, older, rich, and previously not in trouble with the law? everyone's busy looking for browner-skinned muslim ISISy-looking types!

If he had ISIS conspirators, I expect them to be converted white Americans or fighters smuggled across the border posing as illegals from central or south America. Either way everything must be explored no matter how unlikely.



The only thing above average is the number of dead and wounded, which is all on the bump stock.

Bump stocks sole purpose is to enable full auto fire in bursts from semi auto rifles. Technically they comply with ATF regulations since they do not alter or replace the internal workings by being an external add on. In reality they have the same result. It needs to be banned.
 
i know, right?

why is it SO impossible to accept a rich white older guy was a fucking murderous bastard? IF he was a genuine psychopath, it's perfectly feasible that no one would know the real him.

he's not just dumb he's dangerously stupid.
 
"Nobody noticed falling glass from the hotel window as it was broken? Why did he risk breaking open 2 windows and being discovered prematurely?"



Because he used a tactical hammer to make a hole and then pulled the window glass into the room...

The 20-20 hindsight game is never a useful tool for prevention.
 
The only thing above average is the number of dead and wounded, which is all on the bump stock.

If he had ISIS conspirators, I expect them to be converted white Americans or fighters smuggled across the border posing as illegals from central or south America. Either way everything must be explored no matter how unlikely.





Bump stocks sole purpose is to enable full auto fire in bursts from semi auto rifles. Technically they comply with ATF regulations since they do not alter or replace the internal workings by being an external add on. In reality they have the same result. It needs to be banned.

Up until a week ago, most of you didn't even know what a bump stock was or that there are other methods to make a semi-automatic weapon fire in bursts. I know this because every time that we have a shooting we get the call for "common-sense gun laws" and never once have I heard the people using that phrase mention bump stocks; because they "hate" guns, they never bother to educate themselves about guns.

But gawd forbid that you halt the importation of people into our country until you can verify that they have not become radicalized because that is tantamount to blaming an entire religion because of the antics of a very tiny minority among them.

See the parallel being drawn here?

;) ;)
 
"Nobody noticed falling glass from the hotel window as it was broken? Why did he risk breaking open 2 windows and being discovered prematurely?"



Because he used a tactical hammer to make a hole and then pulled the window glass into the room...

The 20-20 hindsight game is never a useful tool for prevention.
The valet parking crew went inside to avoid falling glass. (according to an interview on local Vegas TV)

The breaking glass was noticed.
 
Up until a week ago, most of you didn't even know what a bump stock was or that there are other methods to make a semi-automatic weapon fire in bursts. I know this because every time that we have a shooting we get the call for "common-sense gun laws" and never once have I heard the people using that phrase mention bump stocks; because they "hate" guns, they never bother to educate themselves about guns.

But gawd forbid that you halt the importation of people into our country until you can verify that they have not become radicalized because that is tantamount to blaming an entire religion because of the antics of a very tiny minority among them.

See the parallel being drawn here?

;) ;)

Its an ignorant parrallel made by a fool.
 
Up until a week ago, most of you didn't even know what a bump stock was or that there are other methods to make a semi-automatic weapon fire in bursts. I know this because every time that we have a shooting we get the call for "common-sense gun laws" and never once have I heard the people using that phrase mention bump stocks; because they "hate" guns, they never bother to educate themselves about guns.

But gawd forbid that you halt the importation of people into our country until you can verify that they have not become radicalized because that is tantamount to blaming an entire religion because of the antics of a very tiny minority among them.

See the parallel being drawn here?

;) ;)

you're always the smartest one in the room until a mentally challenged toddler walks in.
 
The valet parking crew went inside to avoid falling glass. (according to an interview on local Vegas TV)

The breaking glass was noticed.

That stuff does not shatter. There might have been some pieces from the hammer strikes, but after we learned about high building and wind sucking window panes out, we really altered the construction of them. You can pull them in, but you are simply not going to push them out.
 
I am still waiting for the CCTV footage of this guy entering the hotel, walking around the strip, etc. Until I see it, I will continue to think there is more to the story.
 
I am still waiting for the CCTV footage of this guy entering the hotel, walking around the strip, etc. Until I see it, I will continue to think there is more to the story.

Sheriff David Clark says his 40 years of law enforcement experience tells him the messaging is being controlled and it's causing frustration and dissension in the ranks. The LV Sheriff did seem a bit peeved when in the middle of his news update a special agent of the FBI stepped up to take the microphone and changed the subject.
 
I am still waiting for the CCTV footage of this guy entering the hotel, walking around the strip, etc. Until I see it, I will continue to think there is more to the story.

I should have mentioned Las Vegas is Camera Land when it comes to surveillance and facial recognition technology. There has to be footage of every step he took from the time he got there to the time he entered his room.
 
I should have mentioned Las Vegas is Camera Land when it comes to surveillance and facial recognition technology. There has to be footage of every step he took from the time he got there to the time he entered his room.

Yes I know. That is why I am suspicious about the lack of footage in the news.
 
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