Girls forced to wear boys clothes in name of "gender equality"

[renard_ruse]

More proof that feminazism is NOT about women or girls, its about destroying the differences between the sexes. Its also completely sexist as it only views females as having worth if they act like males or do traditionally male things.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/850764/Gender-neutral-uniform-school-bans-girls-wearing-skirts

 

[renard_ruse]

How does having different clothes for boys and girls impact the so-called "transgendered" in the first place? If they are "transgendered" they would want to wear "gendered" clothes of the opposite sex would they not?

 

[Hypoxia]

Is the school privately or publicly funded? If private, aren't the administrators bound to adopt policies they think best for their students? Wouldn't acting otherwise be irresponsible? And aren't tuition-paying parents entitled to remove students if they disagree with those policies? This hardly seems like a coercive move.

 

[oggbashan]

The problem that occurs in many other UK co-educational schools is that students will always push the boundaries of what is acceptable uniform.

A girls-only school a few miles from me has seen variations in skirt lengths over the last couple of decades. The skirts have been knee-length, calf-length, ankle-length wrap around split to the waist, and frequently shorter than the crutch area. The school rules have consistently said "no shorter than three inches above the knee" but if the skirts are worn above opaque black leggings the rule hasn't been strictly enforced.

But the leggings aren't always opaque; aren't always leggings but pantyhose; and the skirts sometimes don't cover anything except some of the backside.

Boys can be just as awkward about school uniform. Shirts should be tucked in, ties should be worn to a buttoned collar - so shirt tails hang out and tie knots are halfway down the chest.

One of the most consistent signs that a school has a reasonable reputation is that the school uniform rules are consistent and are complied with as a matter of student pride. Enforcing uniform rules is one way to get students to think about how they present themselves - but some will always try to break any rule.

This summer in hot weather some boys at some schools have been complaining that girls are allowed to wear short skirts and no leg coverings while the boys have to wear long trousers, not shorts. Several schools had boys arriving in short skirts to protest the ban on shorts. The school authorities' reaction has been generally mild - allowing the boys to continue to wear skirts - but since only a few did it the impact wore off after a few days.

But 'gender equality' is another issue. Most schools allow girls to wear trousers instead of skirts. A boy who considers himself female could wear trousers too. If he wore a skirt (and was the only boy who did) he/she might be bullied at the school. How the school tackles that? There are no easy answers.

 

[KimGordon67]

Trousers haven't been 'boy's clothes' for quite a while now. You need to catch up with recent shifts in clothing norms ... and when I say 'recent', I mean like in the last century or so.

 

[oggbashan]

Trousers haven't been 'boy's clothes' for quite a while now. You need to catch up with recent shifts in clothing norms ... and when I say 'recent', I mean like in the last century or so.

Despite several attempts by the fashion industry, skirts for boys and men haven't really caught on.

Unless you are Scottish, and even then kilt wearing is only normal in parts of Scotland except for attending sporting events as a Scotland supporter.

 

[jaF0]

A girls-only school a few miles from me has seen variations in skirt lengths over the last couple of decades. The skirts have been knee-length, calf-length, ankle-length wrap around split to the waist, and frequently shorter than the crutch area. The school rules have consistently said "no shorter than three inches above the knee" but if the skirts are worn above opaque black leggings the rule hasn't been strictly enforced.

But the leggings aren't always opaque; aren't always leggings but pantyhose; and the skirts sometimes don't cover anything except some of the backside.

We had one that cut hers to just below where the pleats started.

She was kind a tall too. B-)

 

[KimGordon67]

Despite several attempts by the fashion industry, skirts for boys and men haven't really caught on.

Unless you are Scottish, and even then kilt wearing is only normal in parts of Scotland except for attending sporting events as a Scotland supporter.

... which is clearly why the school didn't make skirts compulsory, rather than pants. In fact, I was looking at a science fair exhibition just the other day that demonstrated that wearing shorts vs skirts (for girls) meant more physical activity during the school day, and hence more exercise, and better health. (Interesting, the student also used the example of the boys in the UK wearing skirts during the heat wave - don't the boys there have shorts as part of their uniform? Here they wear shorts all year, even in the dead of winter.)

 

[oggbashan]

... which is clearly why the school didn't make skirts compulsory, rather than pants. In fact, I was looking at a science fair exhibition just the other day that demonstrated that wearing shorts vs skirts (for girls) meant more physical activity during the school day, and hence more exercise, and better health. (Interesting, the student also used the example of the boys in the UK wearing skirts during the heat wave - don't the boys there have shorts as part of their uniform? Here they wear shorts all year, even in the dead of winter.)

Many UK schools have gym shorts for girls as part of the sports kit.

SOME UK schools don't have shorts for boys as part of the school uniform, only long trousers. That is a change. When I was at school many decades ago only the upper classes were allowed to wear long trousers. Shorts for younger boys - up to about age 16 - were compulsory all year round even in snow and ice.

 

[stickygirl]

Ogg in the dim and distant past, maybe shorts used less fabric and so were cheaper? Kim asked if the school had a shorts for boys and no, they didn't, hence why the boys took to borrowed skirts!
RR asked how this affected the postition of transgender people and it doesn't.
So it's more commonsensienazi, than anything more sinister...

...and why are you grown men looking at how short the skirts are at your local school?

 

[KimGordon67]

Ogg in the dim and distant past, maybe shorts used less fabric and so were cheaper? Kim asked if the school had a shorts for boys and no, they didn't, hence why the boys took to borrowed skirts!
RR asked how this affected the postition of transgender people and it doesn't.
So it's more commonsensienazi, than anything more sinister...

...and why are you grown men looking at how short the skirts are at your local school?

Oh, I knew shorts weren't an option in the specific instance that attracted media attention - I was just wondering if long pants were a universal feature of UK school uniforms. Here, it seems to be universally shorts for everyday boys' uniforms, summer & winter - girls can wear skirts or skorts, (which are just a crime against everything that's right with the world), and tights under them in winter ... I guess the boys could have a go at wearing tights under their shorts?

 

[oggbashan]

Ogg in the dim and distant past, maybe shorts used less fabric and so were cheaper? Kim asked if the school had a shorts for boys and no, they didn't, hence why the boys took to borrowed skirts!
RR asked how this affected the postition of transgender people and it doesn't.
So it's more commonsensienazi, than anything more sinister...

Less fabric? No, but post war fabric was still in short supply and needed clothing coupons. The main reason was that teenage boys in long trousers used to tear them at the knees in normal boyish activities. Bloody knees healed. Torn trousers couldn't be frequently repaired and remain acceptable wear.

The cost of school trousers now, allowing for inflation, is ridiculously low. A couple of months ago I bought many pairs of school trousers for my grandson at £1.97 each (Say two and a half US dollars). The equivalent trousers when I was my grandson's age cost the modern equivalent of £25 ($35).

...and why are you grown men looking at how short the skirts are at your local school?

Because we can't avoid seeing them as they walk past in their hundreds (and I have granddaughters)!

 

[KimGordon67]

Less fabric? No, but post war fabric was still in short supply and needed clothing coupons. The main reason was that teenage boys in long trousers used to tear them at the knees in normal boyish activities. Bloody knees healed. Torn trousers couldn't be frequently repaired and remain acceptable wear.

The cost of school trousers now, allowing for inflation, is ridiculously low. A couple of months ago I bought many pairs of school trousers for my grandson at £1.97 each (Say two and a half US dollars). The equivalent trousers when I was my grandson's age cost the modern equivalent of £25 ($35).



Because we can't avoid seeing them as they walk past in their hundreds (and I have granddaughters)!

God - uniforms here are outrageously expensive AND fugly. I hate paying that much for such unattractive clothing ... but oh well.

 

[Hypoxia]

My former neighbor (a geology professor specializing in vineyard soils) rafted many times down the Green and Colorado rivers in the USA Southwest, above and through the Grand Canyon. He said rafting men commonly wore skirts, called them kilts, and stayed comfy in wet hot conditions. Might see some now wandering around Moab, Utah.

 

[Debbie]

I would have preferred to wear trousers in winter and uniform shorts in summer to school.

Warmer in winter and less likely to have some dickhead college boy play the fun game of let's pull up the girls skirts to see their underwear and make them squeal.

Plus the girls uniforms are ridiculously expensive compared to the boys.

 

[Izadora]

But wait....weren't girls dressing like girls a "distraction" to males?

https://globalnews.ca/news/3503389/...cting-boys-sparks-outrage-in-alberta-village/

Maybe we should focus less on what students are wearing to school and more on the actual education they are receiving.

 

[oggbashan]

But wait....weren't girls dressing like girls a "distraction" to males?

https://globalnews.ca/news/3503389/...cting-boys-sparks-outrage-in-alberta-village/

Maybe we should focus less on what students are wearing to school and more on the actual education they are receiving.

In the UK, enforcing uniform codes is often an early step towards improving the learning environment. It is not that inappropriate dress is distracting, it's about the students' self confidence and community spirit. Breaking uniform rules can be a sign of reluctance to engage in education.

It is a minor issue in the need to value your education but it is very visible to others if the school students wear their uniform correctly.

It also gets over the message that you can be unfairly judged on your appearance, and if you want to be employed after leaving school, how you present yourself matters.

Some versions of breaking school uniform rules are a marker that a student is in a gang or clique. For example one local school, years ago, had to insist that boys either wore both sleeves down or both sleeves rolled up. Why? Because one gang rolled up only their right sleeve and another rolled up only their left and disputed territory in the school grounds. (Reminds me of Gulliver's Travels - Big-enders and Little-enders.)

 

[jaF0]

For example one local school, years ago, had to insist that boys either wore both sleeves down or both sleeves rolled up. Why? Because one gang rolled up only their right sleeve and another rolled up only their left and disputed territory in the school grounds. (Reminds me of Gulliver's Travels - Big-enders and Little-enders.)

When Ivanova attempts to resolve the conflict, she learns that the distinction between the two colors of Drazi is totally random. Right before the brawl, the Drazi draw a colored sash out of a barrel and join that colored faction. One sash of each color has a leader pendant tied to it; whoever draws that pendant becomes the leader of that color of Drazi.

Ivanova is kidnapped by the Green Drazi in order to lure the Purple Drazi into a deadly trap disguised as peace negotiations, but Garibaldi rescues her. While attempting to resolve the dispute again, she casually takes the Green Leader's sash, and notices that the Green Drazi have begun following her orders. According to the Drazi, the existing rules do not address aliens becoming involved and the changes are caught up in committee. The Drazi who are present default to accepting Ivanova as their leader, and she uses her new authority to require all Drazi on the station to dye their scarves purple.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Geometry_of_Shadows


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[oggbashan]

Roman Chariot racing supporters formed factions that caused conflicts:

By 77 BC, the rivalry between the Red and the Whites was already developed, when a funeral for a Red driver involved a Red supporter throwing himself on the funeral pyre. No writer of the time, however, refers to these as factions such as came into existence later, with the factions being official organizations. Writing near the beginning of the third century, he wrote that the Reds were dedicated to Mars, the Whites to the Zephyrs, the Greens to Mother Earth or spring, and the Blues to the sky and sea or autumn. Domitian created two new factions, the Purples and Golds, which disappeared soon after he died. The Blues and the Greens gradually became the most prestigious factions, supported by emperor and populace alike. Numerous occasions occurred when a Blue vs. Green clash would break out during a race. Indeed, Reds and Whites are only rarely mentioned in the surviving literature, although their continued activity is documented in inscriptions and in curse-tablets.

Sounds like modern football team supporters.

 

[fma20fma]

hi

My ex bf is bi and kinky. preferred to treat me as a boy always. he preferred ladyboys and submissive boys most. Where does that fit me in this thread?

 

[oggbashan]

My ex bf is bi and kinky. preferred to treat me as a boy always. he preferred ladyboys and submissive boys most. Where does that fit me in this thread?

Anywhere you want to be. If you were wearing the trousers in the relationship, you ran him even if you were pretending to be submissive.

 

[Hypoxia]

My ex bf is bi and kinky. preferred to treat me as a boy always. he preferred ladyboys and submissive boys most. Where does that fit me in this thread?

If you're an adult, wear whatever you want (if anything) as appropriate to a situation. You'll probably want more than a jockstrap for court appearances, for instance. I recommend wrapping LED lights strings around your body. Set the right flashing pattern and have fun!

Meanwhile, advancing biomedical technology will soon allow almost instant sex changes. Swapping genders every year or so will be common among youths. The fashion industry will boom with all new outfits needed annually. Unless loincloths become a fad...

 

[jaF0]

Meanwhile, advancing biomedical technology will soon allow almost instant sex changes..

So, BB could be Brigitte Bardot and then Billy Barty without being either one forever?

 

[Hypoxia]

So, BB could be Brigitte Bardot and then Billy Barty without being either one forever?

Another week, another body, another sex. BB could be Brendan Behan and Barbara Billingsly and Bootsy Baby and Brigadier Bumbershoot. And a Bald-ass Baboon. Many options there.