Question about "Non Erotic"

[Voboy]

Hi,

I've never posted there nor read anything in there, but I'm curious. The stories there, if I understand it correctly, still have sex in 'em; it's just that sex isn't the main focus? Is that the idea? What do the readers there expect?

My story is developing as a dark-ish tale involving drugs, prostitution, and shredded family dynamics. I'm not sure it even remotely fits any of my usual categories.

The main idea is that a woman is moving back home and trying to cope with her black-sheep sister. Plenty of screwin', but that's not the point of the story and the descriptions are tamer than usual because the narrator's a little shy.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Carnevil9]

I have posted stories in "non erotic" that had absolutely zero sex in them. They were just stories, like you might submit to Readers Digest. I haven't read many others, so I don't know what the "normal" is, but that is my experience. Yours sounds like it would fit there as well.

 

[Handley_Page]

If you think of a well-written story, without any real sex, you'll find a good tale.
Just don't get hung up on the sexy bits.

 

[sr71plt]

I think of nonerotic as whatever sex there is having happened completely off stage and isn't used to titillate sexually. If it's there, it's only used to explain a current situation or relationship.

 

[49greg]

Having the name "non erotic" I've just assumed there was no sex in it. And I did post some stories there with no sex. That didn't stop me from getting a comment from a disgruntled reader complaining about the lack of a sex scene.

 

[sr71plt]

Having the name "non erotic" I've just assumed there was no sex in it. And I did post some stories there with no sex. That didn't stop me from getting a comment from a disgruntled reader complaining about the lack of a sex scene.

Yeah, well, this is an erotica site. I can see why a reader would be confused.

 

[Tio_Narratore]

I always thought that "non-erotic" was for stories that didn't succeed at turning anyone on.

 

[Voboy]

Yeah, well, this is an erotica site. I can see why a reader would be confused.

Yeah, that's what had me wondering.

I'm thinking now that my story is neither fish nor fowl: it might have more sex than a NE readership might expect, but less than say EC. Because there's a good deal of sex, but at the end of the day, the sex moves the story; the story doesn't move the sex.

I'll poke around among some of the NE stories and see what's what. I really do appreciate the responses.

V

 

[sr71plt]

Most readers here aren't attuned to what moves what. If you've got sex acts in it, you probably aren't looking to put it in nonerotic.

 

[Voboy]

Thanks.

 

[_Lynn_]

I have several in NE, including Maggie's Gift, Eileen, and Broken Butterfly. They don't have sex in them.

 

[SamScribble]

I wrote a Non-Erotic story for last year's Halloween Contest. Not even a sniff of sex. It did rather well. Not a lot of readers - but those who did read it seemed to enjoy it.

 

[sr71plt]

I have thirteen stories posted to Nonerotic in this account name, more than half of them with red Hs (which seems a bit of a contradiction), and all of the stories in another account name are in the Nonerotic and nearly all of those have red Hs.

 

[Hypoxia]

Just because there's fucking, doesn't automatically make a story erotic.
Just because there's NO fucking, doesn't automatically make it non-erotic.
What is the emphasis of the story? Here's my triage:

* If sex is not crucial to the story, it's non-erotic.
* If sex is crucial to the story, it's erotic.
* If sex IS the story, it's pr0n.

My one (so far) Non-Erotic story includes reported but not described sex, and the theme is not sexual or romantic -- it's about terrorists. I originally wrote it before LIT existed. Would I post more non-erotic tales? Depends on when and where my lazy muses drive me.

 

[sr71plt]

* If sex is not crucial to the story, it's non-erotic.
* If sex is crucial to the story, it's erotic.

Nope, I don't agree these are axioms. "Erotic" is in the arousal it invokes in the reader. Just because it includes one or more sex act doesn't mean it's erotic (e.g., it could be highly clinical and/or just highly gross).

The sex in a story could very well not be crucial but it could be highly erotic in the sexual arousal invoked in the reader, and that negates it qualifying as nonerotic.

And the story could be full of sex that is described in a way that doesn't arouse (e.g., highly clinical)

"sex" and "erotic" aren't synonyms.

 

[Trumpire]

Nope, I don't agree these are axioms. "Erotic" is in the arousal it invokes in the reader. Just because it includes one or more sex act doesn't mean it's erotic (e.g., it could be highly clinical and/or just highly gross).

The sex in a story could very well not be crucial but it could be highly erotic in the sexual arousal invoked in the reader, and that negates it qualifying as nonerotic.

And the story could be full of sex that is described in a way that doesn't arouse (e.g., highly clinical).

Welcome to tonight's celebration of Sr negating everything everyone else says.

I agree that if it's non-arousing, that also means it may still be erotic. However, if stories include no sex at all, it is highly-likely they are non-erotic (many stories regarded as "classics" historically may fit this description). However, if there is (as it appears you claim) no guaranteed trait that decides if a story is erotic or not (seems to be up to each reader in your post), then why even have it as a category?!

 

[sr71plt]

Welcome to tonight's celebration of Sr negating everything everyone else says.

I agree that if it's non-arousing, that also means it may still be erotic. However, if stories include no sex at all, it is highly-likely they are non-erotic (many stories regarded as "classics" historically may fit this description). However, if there is (as it appears you claim) no guaranteed trait that decides if a story is erotic or not (seems to be up to each reader in your post), then why even have it as a category?!

Let me know if you come up with an English translation for this post. (Sorry that my going after your Trumpian posts on the Political board means you have to bring your hurt over to the AH.)

But, yes, I'll have to say that I just can't believe that something can be erotic to someone if it's not sexually arousing to that someone--by definition.

Since you brought up (and butchered) a Webster's definition on the other board, I'm sure you'll be pleased to look up the definition of "erotic."

"1. of, devoted to, or tending to arouse sexual love or desire. 2. Strongly marked or affected by sexual desire."

Sorry, I don't see how nonarousal fits in there in any way.

It's fine with me if you do, though. It probably goes well with your choice to live in a world of alternative reality.

 

[Trumpire]

Let me know if you come up with an English translation for this post. (Sorry that my going after your Trumpian posts on the Political board means you have to bring your hurt over to the AH.)

But, yes, I'll have to say that I just can't believe that something can be erotic to someone if it's not sexually arousing to that someone--by definition.

Since you brought up (and butchered) a Webster's definition on the other board, I'm sure you'll be pleased to look up the definition of "erotic."

"1. of, devoted to, or tending to arouse sexual love or desire. 2. Strongly marked or affected by sexual desire."

Sorry, I don't see how nonarousal fits in there in any way.

It's fine with me if you do, though. It probably goes well with your choice to live in a world of alternative reality.

Forget definitions & use a thesaurus to look up synonyms if you fail to comprehend my meaning. Regardless, my post is in English. Also, I read your post, but failed to bother remembering any of it when typing this reply after you referenced both our connections/relations in other sections, not to mention discussing an "alternative reality" that does not exist & other off-topic things.

Regarding the successive post, I don't think erotic things need be arousing, but even if that is required, different things have &/or lack that trait/quality for different people.

 

[Voboy]

...uhh, thanks. My question's been answered.