Publishing Work That's NOT Acceptable

[Trinique_Fire]

Not on Lit, obviously.

But let's talk about this. If I have a sexy story (and I do) that features a less than legal teenager who's sexually involved with an older woman, is there even a place or way to publish this? It's not as if I pulled this out of my ass...it's inspired by events that took place when I was a teenager, but still, I can imagine I'm going to face a lot of road blocks.

Does anyone have advice (and no, don't tell me to change the ages. T'ain't happening)?

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

Well... There has always been an underground publishing industry but in terms of actual physical BOOKS maybe less so these days when people use digital words and not paper-and-ink words as much as they once did.

There are numerous mainstream published books that deal with this kind of subject but usually, they are biographical 'truth' books that are published as adult material so that someone can be skewered - often deservedly. I think Siouxsie Sioux is an example of someone who had a book published that covered details of when she was sexually molested or raped at a very young age - and there are others but I can't recall exact titles or people right now off the top of my head unless I pushed my memory.

Fiction, or a fictionalized account of something that actually happened which has a positive spin is almost never accepted in the mainstream publishing world - and that is because society has not advanced much even though CNN wants us all to believe gay marriage/transgender and all of that has made us all oh so 'liberated' and sophisticated and 'advanced...' lol

There are MANY mainstream psychologists who want to talk positively about this area, and of course, there are also academic credentialed anthropologists who write about it all the time, and whether or not their lurid descriptions are being 'covered for' with the academic pretensions I cannot tell; yet these people are often just childish in the way they think they are being 'adventurous' or something. That's what it seems like to me.

I am not personally a fan of censoring of ANY kind when it comes to books but I accept the legal aspects when it comes to the reality of the present day. As an example - not to do with sexuality as far as I could tell anyway- I HATED the movie 'Wolf Creek.' But then, on one level, somebody made that movie, somebody thought that way, and I NEED to know people are around who would even make such a dog of a film!!! I do NOT want to go around, NOT KNOWING there are such lunatics living around me!

It had NO justification for existence, it had absolutely zero rationale and was pretentious if it was being held to 'describe a real serial killer in dramatic form...' Crap. I already know there are lunatics I just don't expect to have my money wasted by lunatic film directors as well!!

So that's the personal price I pay not to support censorship.

My personal stance is that I cannot expect to understand human beings unless I am prepared to at minimum scan, the views and ideas and perspectives of others, especially those I may not agree with. So I don't like censorship at all. Yet there are also other factors that have to be considered - in today's world it is possible for large media organisations to over-hype or manipulate public opinion using propaganda and this is just as easily applied to 'different' sexual practices and ideas as it is to anything else. I think this is in reality one of the reasons for current law as it stands - and I agree with this aspect. But this becomes a judgement call AFTER the work is already available and out there.

I personally don't know where the websites are, but I am absolutely sure they are bound to be 'dark web' sites you can get to via Tor Onion or something that will be like a 'publishing underground.' I'm sure of that. And I'm not intending to encourage or support child sex or anything like that - what I am in favor of is hearing from people with differing views on difficult subjects and 'other' human behaviours. As you say, sometimes the discussion itself, cannot be had through any usual means. And that is wrong; in the sense it is a philosophical mistake to be totally in the dark about these things.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Try [Removed] they take anything.

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Since when is youknowwhat.org a competing site with Lit? That's were all the second class writers go to post their underage and bestiality stories.

 

[sr71plt]

[Removed] probably would publish it.

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[Bramblethorn]

There are numerous mainstream published books that deal with this kind of subject but usually, they are biographical 'truth' books that are published as adult material so that someone can be skewered - often deservedly. I think Siouxsie Sioux is an example of someone who had a book published that covered details of when she was sexually molested or raped at a very young age - and there are others but I can't recall exact titles or people right now off the top of my head unless I pushed my memory.

Fiction, or a fictionalized account of something that actually happened which has a positive spin is almost never accepted in the mainstream publishing world

Maybe not often, but it does happen. For example, the fantasy author Piers Anthony has published more than one book where he attempts to put a positive spin on sex between adult men and pre-teen girls. (See also: why Bramble stopped reading Piers Anthony.)

 

[sr71plt]

All sorts of issues get published in the mainstream (including in fiction, without connecting it to "truth") that aren't permitted by erotica publishers and distributors. It's just the way it is.

 

[Carnevil9]

Well "Lolita" got published. Of course that was a long time ago, but I don't think it was a more permissive time back then than we have now.

 

[sr71plt]

Oh, stuff that's taboo or close to it in the erotica publishing world gets put out in mainstream books and movies at a steady pace. There presumably is a difference between the two locations for--the nature of the arousal the work is going for, I guess.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

Oh, stuff that's taboo or close to it in the erotica publishing world gets put out in mainstream books and movies at a steady pace. There presumably is a difference between the two locations for--the nature of the arousal the work is going for, I guess.

I was thinking about this, and I was thinking that the rules being so stringent in the mainstream world of erotica could have a lot to do with erotica already having a stigma of perversion.

 

[Blind_Justice]

Publishers run away from underage content because they don't want to be lumped in with the dirty pedophiles, despite ages of consent varying wildly around the world. But publishing stories about happily butt-fucking the extended family is a-ok. Happy Hypocrisy, everyone!

 

[Trinique_Fire]

Publishers run away from underage content because they don't want to be lumped in with the dirty pedophiles, despite ages of consent varying wildly around the world. But publishing stories about happily butt-fucking the extended family is a-ok. Happy Hypocrisy, everyone!

I see no lies here.