Did Paul truly follow Christ's idea

[EternalFantasies]

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[EternalFantasies]

none?

 

[adrina]

The heretic says ya'll are practicing Paulism. But I delved into this crap ages ago and have the been there, done that t-shirt.

 

[FGB]

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There is no conflict here Jackass.

Nice try I will admit.

 

[pointless]

he did not. also, that whole trinity thing? complete nonsense edited in after the fact.

 

[EternalFantasies]

There is no conflict here Jackass.

Nice try I will admit.

You may wish to notice first that the Paul verses are not accurate; two of them are almost entirely misrepresented and out of context. If it's any consolation, I noticed it after I posted this.

But i'm hoping it helps better identify the jackass among us two.

 

[EternalFantasies]

he did not.

I agree. But not due to this image above.

also, that whole trinity thing? complete nonsense edited in after the fact.

Actually the Trinity is the opposite its an important key.

It's in many places in the OT testament as well, only not at all obvious.

Yes, it was added in the 305 i think at the council of nicea. No foul. It's essential.

 

[sr71plt]

Jesus was a Jew to the end, not "Islam."

 

[Hypoxia]

The torturer and death-squad leader Saul/Paul wasn't much of a follower of Yeshua bir Miriam aka Christ. Followers quote their leaders. Saul/Paul never ever quoted or cited Christ because he had zero idea of Christ's messages, if any. (There's no independent corroboration of the existence of Yeshua bir Miriam.) Saul/Paul spewed a lot of "in Christ's name" without embodying the content. Conclusion: fraud.

 

[sr71plt]

The torturer and death-squad leader Saul/Paul wasn't much of a follower of Yeshua bir Miriam aka Christ. Followers quote their leaders. Saul/Paul never ever quoted or cited Christ because he had zero idea of Christ's messages, if any. (There's no independent corroboration of the existence of Yeshua bir Miriam.) Saul/Paul spewed a lot of "in Christ's name" without embodying the content. Conclusion: fraud.

More of a usurper, brought into the fold by Barnabus. Jesus had left the movement to his brother, James, who wanted to keep it confined to the Jerusalem area within Jewish law.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

More of a usurper, brought into the fold by Barnabus. Jesus had left the movement to his brother, James, who wanted to keep it confined to the Jerusalem area within Jewish law.

The purpose of the meeting, according to Acts, was to resolve a disagreement in Antioch, which had wider implications than just circumcision, since circumcision is the "everlasting" sign of the Abrahamic Covenant (Genesis 17:9–14). Some of the Pharisees who had become believers insisted that it was "needful to circumcise them, and to command [them] to keep the law of Moses" (KJV).[6]

The primary issue which was addressed related to the requirement of circumcision, as the author of Acts relates, but other important matters arose as well, as the Apostolic Decree indicates. The dispute was between those, such as the followers of the "Pillars of the Church", led by James, who believed, following his interpretation of the Great Commission, that the church must observe the Torah, i.e. the rules of traditional Judaism,[1] and Paul the Apostle, who believed there was no such necessity. (See also Supersessionism, New Covenant, Antinomianism, Hellenistic Judaism, Paul the Apostle and Judaism.)

At the Council, following advice offered by Simon Peter (Acts 15:7–11 and Acts 15:14), Barnabas and Paul gave an account of their ministry among the gentiles (Acts 15:12), and the apostle James quoted from the words of the prophet Amos (Acts 15:16–17, quoting Amos 9:11–12). James added his own words[7] to the quotation: "Known to God from eternity are all His works"[8] and then submitted a proposal, which was accepted by the Church and became known as the Apostolic Decree:

It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.[2] For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath. (Acts 15:19–21)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Jerusalem

In short, it would seem the Council of Jerusalem adequately resolved whatever conflict might have initially existed between James and Paul.

 

[richard_daily]

The bible was written by transsexual lizard (illegal) aliens who were on welfare.

Prove me wrong.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

The bible was written by transsexual lizard (illegal) aliens who were on welfare.

Prove me wrong.

Well I'm a Christian and compared to the idiot's proposition who started this thread, I go along with your concept (except for the 'on welfare' bit because they could multiply loaves and fishes and didn't need welfare...)

And why is the idiot's proposition wrong? Because Matthew's text reads (in the Aramaic Greek) 'plerosai' and 'katalysai.' Which does NOT mean 'come to fulfill,' - it means take to/demonstrate (for you) its extreme (or in our modern parlance 'absurb') conclusions' and 'crystallize ('katalysai) or manifest/make concrete, the meaning.'

Muslim bullshit artists appear to be everywhere these days - except thank goodness they are no longer in the WH.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Prove that Islam is not a bastardization of Syriac Christianity.



Much of the Koran is a straight translation into Arabic...

https://www.amazon.com/Did-Muhammad-Exist-Inquiry-Obscure/dp/161017061X

 

[sr71plt]

Prove that Islam is not a bastardization of Syriac Christianity.



Much of the Koran is a straight translation into Arabic...

https://www.amazon.com/Did-Muhammad-Exist-Inquiry-Obscure/dp/161017061X

I'm sure the Muslims consider Islam to be a correction (maybe even a rationalization) of Syriac Christianity.

 

[EternalFantasies]

Well I'm a Christian and compared to the idiot's proposition who started this thread, I go along with your concept (except for the 'on welfare' bit because they could multiply loaves and fishes and didn't need welfare...)

Okey he's joking there
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And why is the idiot's proposition wrong? Because Matthew's text reads (in the Aramaic Greek) 'plerosai' and 'katalysai.' Which does NOT mean 'come to fulfill,' - it means take to/demonstrate (for you) its extreme (or in our modern parlance 'absurb') conclusions' and 'crystallize ('katalysai) or manifest/make concrete, the meaning.'

Which is the same; most bible versions use fulfill....
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Muslim bullshit artists appear to be everywhere these days - except thank goodness they are no longer in the WH.

This guy just said nothing new, called me an idiot, and called me a Muslim.

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[EternalFantasies]

Prove that Islam is not a bastardization of Syriac Christianity.



Much of the Koran is a straight translation into Arabic...

https://www.amazon.com/Did-Muhammad-Exist-Inquiry-Obscure/dp/161017061X

I'm sure the Muslims consider Islam to be a correction (maybe even a rationalization) of Syriac Christianity.

Islam does not come from / is a translation from Christianity. It's its own interpretation of the OT & NT, plus its own directives.

Arabs like to believe its in its original form in Arabic and is the only one as such and will kill you for it. While reality is the original is in Syriac hence why Syriac scholars believe the Quran is misunderstood coz the translation into Arabic was faulty.

 

[Hypoxia]

Arabs like to believe its in its original form in Arabic and is the only one as such and will kill you for it. While reality is the original is in Syriac hence why Syriac scholars believe the Quran is misunderstood coz the translation into Arabic was faulty.

I'll argue that all translations of holy works are faulty because all languages contain unique elements that don't work in other cultures. My favorite example is of a bible society crafting a translation in a Mexican Indian language... that had no concept of 'prayer'. The closest the biblists could come to 'pray' was "to wag one's tail before the Lord". In other words, believers are dogs. I doubt that the language has a Quran translation.

 

[EternalFantasies]

I'll argue that all translations of holy works are faulty because all languages contain unique elements that don't work in other cultures. My favorite example is of a bible society crafting a translation in a Mexican Indian language... that had no concept of 'prayer'. The closest the biblists could come to 'pray' was "to wag one's tail before the Lord". In other words, believers are dogs. I doubt that the language has a Quran translation.

He's not boring: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvhBWRNRbKo

 

[sr71plt]

Islam does not come from / is a translation from Christianity. It's its own interpretation of the OT & NT, plus its own directives.

Oh, I know that, but I think it's too complicated for 4Rest Gump to handle.

 

[EternalFantasies]

Oh, I know that, but I think it's too complicated for 4Rest Gump to handle.

He probably got it all from the back cover of the book he posted




Good morning 4est, all in good humor.