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[hobbit.]

the medical people keep trotting out theoreticlal numbers presumably based on some weird medo-scienctific algorytyhem.. basicaly bullshit.

in terms of units, based on, say a 440cl can, at around 9.5% alochol, what would you suggest prior to, for example driving a train?

 

[oggbashan]

the medical people keep trotting out theoreticlal numbers presumably based on some weird medo-scienctific algorytyhem.. basicaly bullshit.

in terms of units, based on, say a 440cl can, at around 9.5% alochol, what would you suggest prior to, for example driving a train?

A train on a passenger carrying railway?

None. Nothing. Nada. Rein. The driver is responsible for hundreds of passengers.

No alcohol in last 24 hours.

Even if the driver is controlling a freight train, the driver's actions could affect passenger trains on the same railway system.

It should be the same as for Airline Pilots - no alcohol (or drugs) in the system.

 

[MelissaBaby]

I have never driven a train, and it sounds sort of scary, so, without doing the math, I'd say I would have to get pretty shitfaced to try it.

 

[hobbit.]

A train on a passenger carrying railway?

None. Nothing. Nada. Rein. The driver is responsible for hundreds of passengers.

No alcohol in last 24 hours.

Even if the driver is controlling a freight train, the driver's actions could affect passenger trains on the same railway system.

It should be the same as for Airline Pilots - no alcohol (or drugs) in the system.

how do you know how many passengers might be on the train?
who mentioned airline pilots? trains are heavy rail, unlike trams which are lightrail. aeroplanes dont use any rails so your concept is wholly bogus.

I have never driven a train, and it sounds sort of scary, so, without doing the math, I'd say I would have to get pretty shitfaced to try it.

many rail based transport systems are computer controlled, so if google can use cars in which the nominated driver is off his/her head why cant responsible rail operators?

this thread demonastrates a uiversal suspicion of train drivers.

 

[LIVINRFANTASIES]

Denny

It all depends on how fast the train is going from point "A" to point "B". Something to do with relatives and tittie. Ask that old guy with a lot of hair.
There are many math problems about this very thing. Alcohol is not allowed when driving a semi truck, most heavy equipment or choo choo trains.
How difficult is it to steer a train? You can't just make a left while in a tunnel or on a bridge so it must be easy to drive. Even Melissa could do it.

 

[Hypoxia]

Do not bother with a train.

Merely walk across a busy intersection while texting.

The gene pool will thank you.

 

[MelissaBaby]

It all depends on how fast the train is going from point "A" to point "B". Something to do with relatives and tittie. Ask that old guy with a lot of hair.
There are many math problems about this very thing. Alcohol is not allowed when driving a semi truck, most heavy equipment or choo choo trains.
How difficult is it to steer a train? You can't just make a left while in a tunnel or on a bridge so it must be easy to drive. Even Melissa could do it.

I'm willing give it a try.

 

[LIVINRFANTASIES]

Dollie

I'm willing give it a try.

That's a good sport. My hubby wrote that but he's never driven a train either. Most we've been on were at amusement parks and I don't think the drivers were drunk.

 

[oggbashan]

...
many rail based transport systems are computer controlled, so if google can use cars in which the nominated driver is off his/her head why cant responsible rail operators?

this thread demonastrates a uiversal suspicion of train drivers.

Unfortunately, except for the driverless Docklands Light Railway, drivers have a significant role to perform for the safety of the travelling public. Most mainline trains are NOT computer controlled. They should be. They're not. IF the driver does not respond to warning signals and messages eventually the train will stop - if the ancient trackside machinery works properly, but it could be several miles down the line.

I remember the Moorgate underground train crash in which the driver seemed to be totally unaware that he was approaching a station with a dead end immediately beyond the end of the platform - and drove into a solid wall at full speed. It shouldn't have been possible but there was no automatic system to stop a speeding train.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorgate_tube_crash

Or the Addiscombe tram crash when a tram tried to go round a sharp curve at a speed of 70 kmph with a 20 kmph speed restriction. Subsequently passengers had reported tram drivers being asleep on the same system.

https://www.londonreconnections.com/2016/initial-raib-report-on-tram-accident-released/

If train drivers are not alert, awake, and aware - people die.

 

[Saint Peter]

The thing drives itself.

*swig*

 

[La damnee elle la licorne]

 

[hobbit.]

Unfortunately, except for the driverless Docklands Light Railway, drivers have a significant role to perform for the safety of the travelling public. Most mainline trains are NOT computer controlled. They should be. They're not. IF the driver does not respond to warning signals and messages eventually the train will stop - if the ancient trackside machinery works properly, but it could be several miles down the line.

I remember the Moorgate underground train crash in which the driver seemed to be totally unaware that he was approaching a station with a dead end immediately beyond the end of the platform - and drove into a solid wall at full speed. It shouldn't have been possible but there was no automatic system to stop a speeding train.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorgate_tube_crash

Or the Addiscombe tram crash when a tram tried to go round a sharp curve at a speed of 70 kmph with a 20 kmph speed restriction. Subsequently passengers had reported tram drivers being asleep on the same system.

https://www.londonreconnections.com/2016/initial-raib-report-on-tram-accident-released/

If train drivers are not alert, awake, and aware - people die.

Explain the R101 disaster then smart arse.

 

[chillywilly2]

They get paid like 40 0r 50 bucks an hour...drink on your own time, not company time.

 

[hobbit.]

They get paid like 40 0r 50 bucks an hour...drink on your own time, not company time.

to drink AT work could be gross misconduct.

 

[water505]

Based on the spelling in your thread title it looks like you already exceed the limit.

 

[oggbashan]

Explain the R101 disaster then smart arse.

Simple. The R101 was designed by government committee. It was overweight, under-engineered, over budget and carrying politicians.

The R100 was commercially designed and a much better machine but the R101 disaster killed all airship research for decades.

 

[juttjaw]

Not sure what it is in over there, but here in the states, the federal government will only allow .01 blood alcohol content. That equates to accidently swollowing some of your morning mouthwash by Oops. That's only been since the mid 80s though. Before that, alcohol and drugs were rampant in the rail industry. Some jerk had to get drunk at work and slam a passenger trying into the back of a freight train and ruin it for everyone. Now the 'FRA' (federal railroad administration) restricts pretty much everything. Even prescribed medication. No sleeping pills, pain meds, anxiety medications, depression medication, anything that may alter one's mood. Not only are they worried about the lives of passengers, but also the public. A lot of bad shit is shipped by rail. A derailment of chlorine gas in a highly populated area isn't very desirable.

 

[butters]

gonna drive anything? no alcohol, no drugs in your system affecting your reaction/comprehension times

 

[oggbashan]

This is a Spanish High Speed Train crash - the most modern, computer controlled, rail system in Spain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewHNYOVup9Q

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago_de_Compostela_derailment

The train had just left the modern track and entered the older track which only TELLS the driver if the train speed is above the speeding restriction.

 

[Comshaw]

the medical people keep trotting out theoreticlal numbers presumably based on some weird medo-scienctific algorytyhem.. basicaly bullshit.

in terms of units, based on, say a 440cl can, at around 9.5% alochol, what would you suggest prior to, for example driving a train?

Private autos and trucks: most states have a .08 Blood alcohol level.

U.S. CDL (commercial drivers license) standards: a BAL of .02 will remove you from driving for at least 12 hours. A BAL of .04 is enough to receive a DUI (driving under the influence) ticket.

Pilots: maximum BAL .04 to fly

Trains: maximum BAL before being removed from service .02. To be charged with a DUI the BAL must be .04

Ain't it interesting that pilots can fly with twice the BAL that is allowed for trucks or trains? Fucked up that.



Comshaw

 

[hobbit.]

gonna drive anything? no alcohol, no drugs in your system affecting your reaction/comprehension times

so no hormonal non males at home either then.

This is a Spanish High Speed Train crash - the most modern, computer controlled, rail system in Spain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewHNYOVup9Q

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago_de_Compostela_derailment

The train had just left the modern track and entered the older track which only TELLS the driver if the train speed is above the speeding restriction.

he needed an airship.