Hobby Lobby - Christian values

Comshaw

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So they can't see their way to providing contraception through their insurance because of religious reasons, but have no problem with smuggling artifacts and breaking federal laws? Somebody please quote the bible passage that legitimizes this!
Me thinks perhaps this particular corporate entity is talking out both sides of its mouth. But since it's the main stream news reporting it, it's either fake news or twisited to fit their agenda, right? :rolleyes:


Hobby Lobby fined $3M for smuggling Iraq religious artifacts
Hobby Lobby Stores has agreed to pay a $3 million federal fine and forfeit thousands of ancient Iraqi religious artifacts smuggled from the Middle East that the government alleges were intentionally mislabeled for import, federal prosecutors said.

The Oklahoma City-based craft store chain's devout Christian owners have long shown an interest in the biblical Middle East and started to collect artifacts from the region in 2009, according to a civil complaint filed in New York on Wednesday. Hobby Lobby President Steve Green is the owner of one of the largest collections of religious artifacts in the world and is building a Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C., due to open in the fall.

Green said in a statement that the company cooperated with the government and "should have exercised more oversight and carefully questioned how the acquisitions were handled."

Hobby Lobby executed an agreement to purchase over 5,500 artifacts in December 2010 for $1.6 million, the complaint says. Prosecutors said acquisition of the artifacts "was fraught with red flags" and that packages bore shipping labels that described their contents as "ceramic tiles."

Importing Iraqi cultural property into the United States has been restricted since 1990 and banned outright since 2004, according to the complaint. Under Iraqi law, all antiquities found in Iraq are considered property of the state and private people cannot generally possess them without authorization of the Iraqi government, the complaint says...



More here:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/hobby-lobby-fined-million-smuggled-iraqi-artifacts-48464978




Comshaw
 
What the fuck does the one have to do with the other...?



Just swallow that fucking crow and get the fuck over it.
 
god told the company to buy them. So Man's law does not apply.

Amen.

Maybe the company, and it's not the company, misunderstood the law and was trying to preserve history; the artifacts in question were not acquired for a private collection, but a museum.

Study the issue before popping off and you will look smarter and well-informed.
 
So they can't see their way to providing contraception through their insurance because of religious reasons

That's right.

I know religious freedom sends lefties to the fucking moon....I mean how dare people be allowed to conduct their business in accordance with their religious views!!:mad:

They should only be allowed to run their businesses the way socialist Democrats, hundreds or thousands of miles away see fit!!
 
That's right.

I know religious freedom sends lefties to the fucking moon....I mean how dare people be allowed to conduct their business in accordance with their religious views!!:mad:

They should only be allowed to run their businesses the way socialist Democrats, hundreds or thousands of miles away see fit!!

lol...
 
Maybe the company, and it's not the company, misunderstood the law and was trying to preserve history; the artifacts in question were not acquired for a private collection, but a museum.

Study the issue before popping off and you will look smarter and well-informed.

They understood the law, that's why the artifacts were declared as "ceramic tiles" for customs. And it's still a crime, regardless of the artifacts' ultimate destination.

Study the issue before popping off and you will look smarter and well-informed.
 
Look at AJ rushing to defend criminals and hypocrites. I'm shocked by this occurrence!
 
These were more than likely ISIS looted artifacts. So Hobby Lobby funded ISIS.

Bless their hearts.
 
What the fuck does the one have to do with the other...?



Just swallow that fucking crow and get the fuck over it.

As expected and as intentionally off the mark as usual. What one has to do with the other is the application of their religion to their day to day lives. They chose to apply that religious doctrine to the issue of contraception, but ignored it when it came to honesty and integrity. And in case you can't see the connection with honesty, integrity and Christian religion:

Corinthians 8:21
For we are taking pains to do what is right, not only in the eyes of the Lord but also in the eyes of man.

Proverbs 21:3
3 To do what is right and just is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice



Maybe the company, and it's not the company, misunderstood the law and was trying to preserve history; the artifacts in question were not acquired for a private collection, but a museum.

Study the issue before popping off and you will look smarter and well-informed.

In case you didn't read or couldn't comprehend what was in the article, I'll quote it again:
"...Importing Iraqi cultural property into the United States has been restricted since 1990 and banned outright since 2004, according to the complaint. Under Iraqi law, all antiquities found in Iraq are considered property of the state and private people cannot generally possess them without authorization of the Iraqi government, the complaint says..."


That's right.

I know religious freedom sends lefties to the fucking moon....I mean how dare people be allowed to conduct their business in accordance with their religious views!!:mad:

They should only be allowed to run their businesses the way socialist Democrats, hundreds or thousands of miles away see fit!!

You and AJ really are rather obtuse aren't you? Is that intentional or have you been that way all your life? Aw well on with it....my post wasn't about whether or not they conducted their business under a religious edict, but about being a hypocrite and two faced by running it under their religion ONLY WHEN IT SUITS THEM! If you wish to defend that, please do so, but do try to keep up with the conversation.


Comshaw
 
They understood the law, that's why the artifacts were declared as "ceramic tiles" for customs. And it's still a crime, regardless of the artifacts' ultimate destination.

Study the issue before popping off and you will look smarter and well-informed.

Even if they didn't understand the law, ignorance of the law is not a valid defense.

You don't get to have your birth control cake and illegally-procured artifacts too apparently.
 
Even if they didn't understand the law, ignorance of the law is not a valid defense.

You don't get to have your birth control cake and illegally-procured artifacts too apparently.

Thanks for that, before AJ and BB toss it in as a Hail Mary defense. I tried that a couple of times:" I didn't know the speed limit was 50 officer!" It didn't work for me either.



Comshaw
 
You and AJ really are rather obtuse aren't you? Is that intentional or have you been that way all your life?

You'll have to elaborate on how exactly I'm obtuse.

Otherwise this is just childish shit talking.

Aw well on with it....my post wasn't about whether or not they conducted their business under a religious edict, but about being a hypocrite and two faced by running it under their religion ONLY WHEN IT SUITS THEM!

No shit sherlock.

And in doing so you attack freedom of religion as if it has anything to do with their violating any number of laws regulating the acquisition and importation of stolen artifacts.

If you wish to defend that, please do so,


"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."


but do try to keep up with the conversation.

Comshaw

:rolleyes: You're the one who's having a hard time keeping up.
 
Even if they didn't understand the law, ignorance of the law is not a valid defense.

You don't get to have your birth control cake and illegally-procured artifacts too apparently.

Everyone gets birth control cake (religious freedom) .....because USA .

You just don't get illegally-procured artifacts, freedom of religion doesn't have shit to do with customs violations or illegally procured artifacts.
 
These were more than likely ISIS looted artifacts. So Hobby Lobby funded ISIS.

Bless their hearts.

Quite likely true, but "looted" artifacts not destined for a buyer in that part of the world have been known to be despoiled. Not a lot of interest in preserving Christian Antiquities in that region.
 
Everyone gets birth control cake (religious freedom) .....because USA .

You just don't get illegally-procured artifacts, freedom of religion doesn't have shit to do with customs violations or illegally procured artifacts.

I am choosing to believe perhaps you misread my comment. The point was sometimes the law works in your favor and sometimes it doesn't (as Hobby Lobby likely knows now). But if you're merely wishing to argue with someone, you will need to find someone else to do it with. :rose:
 
Maybe the company, and it's not the company, misunderstood the law and was trying to preserve history; the artifacts in question were not acquired for a private collection, but a museum.

Study the issue before popping off and you will look smarter and well-informed.

They broke the law, they mislabelled historical artifacts, stole them from Iraq for their own gain. How can you be so ill informed and biased when the article is right there? You must be a special kind of stupid. MAGA!
 
About time some one started making money off that fiasco. :)
 
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