Republicans locking Democrats out of the process

[gotsnowgotslush]

Republican senators are privately crafting a health care bill, raising alarm from Democrats

June 12, 2017


"We have no idea what’s being proposed. There’s a group of guys in a backroom somewhere that are making these decisions. There were no hearings in the House. I mean, listen, this is hard to take, because I know we made mistakes on the Affordable Health Care Act, Mr. Secretary."

"And one of the criticisms we got over and over again, that the vote was partisan. Well, you couldn’t have a more partisan exercise than what you’re engaged in right now. We’re not even going to have a hearing on a bill that impacts one-sixth of our economy."

Senate Republicans have indicated they may send their health care bill straight to the Senate floor with little, maybe no chance to amend it. And they have held no hearings on the bill so far.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/repu...ing-health-care-bill-raising-alarm-democrats/

Explaining the reasoning behind the Senate’s lack of transparency, one of the aides remarked, “We aren’t stupid.”


June 12, 2017

In an act of secrecy denounced by one commentator as “an insult to Americans and our democratic process,” two GOP aides told Axios on Monday that although the Senate will soon complete its version of the widely panned American Health Care Act—also known as TrumpCare—the bill will be withheld from the public indefinitely.

Andy Slavitt, who served as acting administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services from 2015 to 2017, also took aim at the GOP’s tactics in a Washington Post op-ed published over the weekend, accusing Senate Republicans of using “three tools” to ram through their wildly unpopular health care plan: “sabotage, speed, and secrecy.”

https://enewspf.com/2017/06/12/sacrificing-democracy-senate-gop-plans-hide-trumpcare-us-public/

Republican Opposition to Healthcare Reform

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell had warned both Grassley and Enzi that their futures in the Senate would be much dimmer if they moved toward a deal with the Democrats that would produce legislation to be signed by Barack Obama. They both listened to their leader.

09/04/09

Gang of Six

Democrats say the Gang of Six negotiations are all but dead and they are ready to move ahead with only Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) when the Finance Committee hits a deadline at the end of next week.


Members of the gang, who all sit on the Finance Committee, have negotiated for months to reach a bipartisan agreement, delaying healthcare reform in the Senate beyond a deadline set by President .

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/the-real-story-of-obamacares-birth/397742/

Republicans do not want Democrats to delay the process, like the Republicans did to the Democrats ?

 

[adrina]

Republicans do not want Democrats to delay the process, like the Republicans did to the Democrats ?

Pretty much. It's all become a partisan game. Playing to the extremes. Somewhere between party of country and being beholden to the super rich/corporations...

 

[handysr]

Republican senators are privately crafting a health care bill, raising alarm from Democrats

"We have no idea what’s being proposed. There’s a group of guys in a backroom somewhere that are making these decisions. There were no hearings in the House. I mean, listen, this is hard to take, because I know we made mistakes on the Affordable Health Care Act, Mr. Secretary."

In an act of secrecy denounced by one commentator as “an insult to Americans and our democratic process,” two GOP aides told Axios on Monday that although the Senate will soon complete its version of the widely panned American Health Care Act—also known as TrumpCare—the bill will be withheld from the public indefinitely.

Republicans do not want Democrats to delay the process, like the Republicans did to the Democrats ?

It's OK when democrats do it to republicans but not the other way around.
But... but... but... Now the liberals are upset, so now it means something

I mean, it's fine when one elected "female" says that you have to vote to approve of the law to see what's in it, but once the D faces opposition from R, suddenly its catastrophic. Oh my goodness they sky is falling.

It's official. There's nothing that will make liberals happy unless everything goes their way. I've seen better cooperation in a fucking day care.

 

[Iceprincess12]

Crafting beer or cheese? If it's gorgonzola the dems should count their lucky stars.

 

[adrina]

It's OK when democrats do it to republicans but not the other way around.
But... but... but... Now the liberals are upset, so now it means something

I mean, it's fine when one elected "female" says that you have to vote to approve of the law to see what's in it, but once the D faces opposition from R, suddenly its catastrophic. Oh my goodness they sky is falling.

It's official. There's nothing that will make liberals happy unless everything goes their way. I've seen better cooperation in a fucking day care.

Oh give me a break you one sided broken record.

Mitch McConnell and the republicans locked themselves out of the process of governance when they decided the answer to every question was "no". Always playing the damn victim and never taking responsibility. Easier to blame someone else, blame the woman, blame the other party... but it's never ever the republican's responsibility. Pretty fucking hypocritical for a party that harps on about personal responsibility.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

June 13, 2017

Sessions was talked into a corner a few times when it came to the actual legal basis for the argument, by Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif

http://www.npr.org/2017/06/13/53282...e-5-highlights-from-sessions-senate-testimony

Jeff Sessions wastes time by answering questions that were not asked- used up "full five minutes of Harris’ allotted time." How much time did Sessions, McCain, and Burr waste, responding to Session's complaint and "distress" ?

http://www.latimes.com/politics/was...s-and-sessions-face-1497387259-htmlstory.html


When Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., asked about Sessions' recollection of meetings with Russian officials or businessmen, he complained, "I'm not able to be rushed this fast. It makes me nervous."

http://www.npr.org/2017/06/14/53285...lective-silence-deafens-senate-russia-inquiry

Kamala Harris Got Shut Down After Asking an Incredibly Important Question. Again

June 14, 2017
On Tuesday, attorney general Jeff Sessions also tried to filibuster the former California attorney general’s questions without properly answering them. And again, the same two white male Senators essentially shushed her.


Jeff Sessions and Burr share a smile, after Burr and McCain help Sessions run out the clock, and evade Kamala Harris's pointed questions

Kamala Harris wants a yes or no answer on the DOJ policy from Jeff Sessions


Harris: So did you not consult it before you came before this committee knowing we would ask you questions about it?
Sessions: Well, we talked about it. The policy is based --
Harris: Did you ask that it would be shown to you?
Sessions: The policy is based on the principle that the president --

Harris: Sir, I'm not asking about the principle. I'm asking --
Sessions: I'm not able to answer the question.

Harris: When you knew that you would be asked these questions and you would rely on this policy, did you not ask your staff to show you the policy that would be the basis for refusing to answer the majority of the questions that have been asked of you.

McCain: The attorney general should be allowed to answer the questions.
Burr: Senators will allow the chair to control the hearing. Sen. Harris let him answer.

Harris: Please do.
Sessions: We talked about it. And we talked about the real principle that is at stake is one that I have some appreciation for as having spent 15 years in the department of justice, 12 as United States attorney. And that principle is that the Constitution provides the head of the executive branch certain privileges. And that members—one of them is confidentiality of communications. And it is improper for agents of any of the department of any departments in the executive branch to waive that privilege without a clear approval of the president.
Harris: Mr. Chairman, I have asked—
Sessions: That's the situation—

Harris: Mr. Sessions, I asked for a yes or no.

Sessions: So the answer is, yes, I consulted.

Harris: Did you ask staff to see the policy?
Burr: The senator's time has expired.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto..._asking_an_incredibly_important_question.html

Harris's questioning of Sessions occurred six days after she was reprimanded by Burr for what the chairman said was a lack of “courtesy” in her and other senators’ questions to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

USA Today columnist Kirsten Powers, who was also on CNN’s panel Wednesday, interjected after Miller said Sessions "knocked away some of the hysteria from Kamala Harris and some of the Democrats who wanted to make this a big partisan show."

Powers asked: "Can I just go back to something [Miller] said? How was Senator Harris ‘hysterical’? I don’t really understand that. I mean, she was asking some tough questions."

I think she was hysterical," Miller repeated, before attempting to move on to discuss Harris’s male colleagues. "I don’t think that Senator Wyden was really trying to get to the bottom of answers either."

"But he (Which he? Jeff Sessions ? "Wahhhh, the mean lady is asking a yes or no answer, and bringing up the DOJ policy, that I am using to stonewall the investigation! Republicans come to my aid!")
"He (Wyden) wasn’t hysterical, and she was," Powers quipped. "OK, I just wanted to clear that up. Got it."


http://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-jeff-sessions-russia-probe-questions-donald-trump-putin-625679


Senator Kamala Harris, on twitter

"It was a simple question. Can Sessions point to the policy, in writing, that allows him to not answer a whole host of our questions today."

https://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeednews/jeff-sessions-testimony?utm_term=.ewWxQYZ0Y#.orjkZlq7l


Sen. Kamala Harris and Sessions got into a tense back-and-forth on whether Sessions had reviewed the longstanding Justice Department policy he has repeatedly cited as the reason he cannot answer questions regarding his conversations with Trump.

 

[sr71plt]

Locking Democrats out of the health-care bill process just means it's all on the Republicans when it hits even their base that they are screwing everyone but the superrich. I'm fine with it being wholly a Republican bill. They've already shown that they are totally incompetent in delivery workable plans that aren't going to screw their own base.

 

[sr71plt]

The Democrats got the most votes in the last presidential election--despite the combined efforts of Russia and Putin's puppet, Trump.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Democrats ought to win elections if they want to be part of the process. The fact that they're in the minority is no one's fault but their own. Faced with the biggest dumbass ever to run for president...and they still lost.

How the F***k do you lose to Trump?

It's a question Democrats should be trying to answer. Doesn't seem like they are though...

Democracy isn't winner take all. This GOP congress is a disgusting group of people.

 

[JackLuis]

Democracy isn't winner take all. This GOP congress is a disgusting group of people.

Considering the 'Leadership' of both parties and their priorities as shown by their actions over the last ~16 years, neither party has much appeal.

 

[adrina]

Considering the 'Leadership' of both parties and their priorities as shown by their actions over the last ~16 years, neither party has much appeal.

At least one has a specific interest in performing the acts of governance however. That's kinda big with me.

 

[ChloeTzang]

How the F***k do you lose to Trump?.

That is sooooo easy that even Trump got it right.

You lose by completely losing touch with your electorate, screw them six ways to Sunday for twenty years, get rid of their jobs, flood the country with illegal aliens that'll take what low paid jobs there are for half the money, outsource as much of the skilled work as you can either overseas or to workers on temp visas who'll do it for less coz that's still way better than what they were doing, repeatedly tell the major ethnic group within the country that they're racist assholes, pander to every minority group with some grievance, go so pc that half the country is convinced you're clinically insane, make sure there's very little difference between either of the two major political groupings that pass as parties, then stand a collection of career incompetents and outright assholes (or bitches) as candidates.

End result: Trump stands up there and says what the rest of us think and we all give you the middle finger and vote for him. Of course he frigging won. Coz between the Democrats and the RINOs this country has been completely fucked over for the benefit of corporate elites and the left wing liberals and the rest of us are now getting pretty fucked off.

And Trump articulates that fucked-offed-ness so very well. There's very little thought needed to vote for him. He's a master of gut level emotional messages that resonate with his audience. Make a note here children. YOU are, by and large, not his audience. You listen, you laugh, you mock but you don't understand the people he's talking too. He does. Hillary 100% does not. Bill and Bernie have an inkling but they're history.

Take me (and I know most of you would prefer not too coz hey, I'm a psychopathic cunt, right. Lol). Don't particularly like Democrats or most Republicans. Small c conservative. Got no time for all the liberal pc bs, Blm or any other acronym. Didn't vote for Romney coz he's a dipshit and I can't stand politicians like him or those Bush assholes. As far as I'm concerned they're only marginally better than the Klintons, Pelosi's and Pocahontii of our world. Trump stands up and more or less says fuck them all and I'm, like "fuck, yeah, I'm voting for him."

And that, boys and girls, is how you lose to Trump. You speak to people who think like me. Worried? I would be if I was you. Coz there's a lot of fucked off people out there waiting for Trump to deliver. And if he doesn't.... which he probably won't be able to do because of all the obstructionism from both sides of the House, we all probably have an inkling from history as to what comes next in the cycle when the middle class is destroyed and the working class is driven to desperation.

Hope that helps.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Considering the 'Leadership' of both parties and their priorities as shown by their actions over the last ~16 years, neither party has much appeal.

Not just a pretty face, are you, Jack?

 

[phrodeau]

I sure am glad to see all those white middle-class poorly-educated people going back to work and getting off of Welfare.

 

[ChloeTzang]

I sure am glad to see all those white middle-class poorly-educated people going back to work and getting off of Welfare.

I'm sure a lot of them will be glad if that happens to.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

LMFAO

I will never stop laughing at how all the Dumb Fucks in this country believe the billionaire con man is their working class hero.

Bwa ha ha ha ha

 

[Bigspurt]

Republican senators are privately crafting a health care bill, raising alarm from Democrats

June 12, 2017


"We have no idea what’s being proposed. There’s a group of guys in a backroom somewhere that are making these decisions. There were no hearings in the House. I mean, listen, this is hard to take, because I know we made mistakes on the Affordable Health Care Act, Mr. Secretary."

"And one of the criticisms we got over and over again, that the vote was partisan. Well, you couldn’t have a more partisan exercise than what you’re engaged in right now. We’re not even going to have a hearing on a bill that impacts one-sixth of our economy."

Senate Republicans have indicated they may send their health care bill straight to the Senate floor with little, maybe no chance to amend it. And they have held no hearings on the bill so far.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/repu...ing-health-care-bill-raising-alarm-democrats/

Explaining the reasoning behind the Senate’s lack of transparency, one of the aides remarked, “We aren’t stupid.”


June 12, 2017

In an act of secrecy denounced by one commentator as “an insult to Americans and our democratic process,” two GOP aides told Axios on Monday that although the Senate will soon complete its version of the widely panned American Health Care Act—also known as TrumpCare—the bill will be withheld from the public indefinitely.

Andy Slavitt, who served as acting administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services from 2015 to 2017, also took aim at the GOP’s tactics in a Washington Post op-ed published over the weekend, accusing Senate Republicans of using “three tools” to ram through their wildly unpopular health care plan: “sabotage, speed, and secrecy.”

https://enewspf.com/2017/06/12/sacrificing-democracy-senate-gop-plans-hide-trumpcare-us-public/

Republican Opposition to Healthcare Reform

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell had warned both Grassley and Enzi that their futures in the Senate would be much dimmer if they moved toward a deal with the Democrats that would produce legislation to be signed by Barack Obama. They both listened to their leader.

09/04/09

Gang of Six

Democrats say the Gang of Six negotiations are all but dead and they are ready to move ahead with only Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) when the Finance Committee hits a deadline at the end of next week.


Members of the gang, who all sit on the Finance Committee, have negotiated for months to reach a bipartisan agreement, delaying healthcare reform in the Senate beyond a deadline set by President .

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/the-real-story-of-obamacares-birth/397742/

Republicans do not want Democrats to delay the process, like the Republicans did to the Democrats ?

Let's see here, what did she say? Something like, "We will find out what's in it after we pass it".

What goes around comes around!

 

[ChloeTzang]

LMFAO

I will never stop laughing at how all the Dumb Fucks in this country believe the billionaire con man is their working class hero.

Bwa ha ha ha ha

You know what tho. The real issue is that things are so bad and issues have so divided us that someone like Trump won. Coz the alternative candidates were and are so much worse. Think about it. All those voters in the swing states who were absolutely desperate enough that they grasped at a straw like Trump in the hope that he could change things. That's how desperate a lot of people are. It's ok sitting in NYC or SF or LA and laughing but out in a lot of industrial and farming states it's, to be blunt, fucking desperate for way to many people. I see that all the time in my job coz ER is last resort medical care for a lot of people who won't get it any other way. Hillary wasn't going to change a thing, she was just one more elitist who didn't give a crap and the people she didn't give a crap for heard that and saw that. Trump got out there and said he cared and he'd do something and people are so desperate that they voted for him on sheer hope that he could do something. Anything. People like you laughing at that despair is just, I'm sorry, plain sick. And a lot of the root cause for someone like Trump emerging from the morass of our political system.

And at the very least, he's trying to do something different, he's trying to create jobs for Americans, he's listening to the people and he's trying to move us away from the lawlessness of the wasted Obama years.

 

[sr71plt]

It was the voters who were worse than the candidates. And Trump didn't win the majority vote.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

The Undead Creation of Conservatives, continues to walk the Earth

(False equivalent, anybody ?)

January 6, 2017

You’ve heard about the controversies within the bill, the process about the bill, one or the other. But I don’t know if you have heard that it is legislation for the future, not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America, where preventive care is not something that you have to pay a deductible for or out of pocket. Prevention, prevention, prevention — it’s about diet, not diabetes. It’s going to be very, very exciting.

"But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.”

Conservatives made a part of the last sentence — “we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it” — famous, possibly the most famous line from the entire health-care debate. Conservatives turned that sentence fragment into an emblem for their claim that Obamacare was passed in the dead of night through a secretive, rushed, undemocratic process.


"...a bill that spent a year working through Congress, eventually passing numerous committees, two full House majority votes, one Senate supermajority vote and, in fact, many, many, many hearings. While the law did use a budget-reconciliation bill to enact minor fiscal adjustments, a maneuver that Republicans decried as akin to a death blow to the Republic, in fact its major provisions all received 60 votes in the Senate. The bill was evaluated by the independent Congressional Budget Office, and the projected premium levels in the new exchanges turned out to be accurate, and its predictions of overall federal health spending turned out to be too pessimistic, as the federal government is now spending less on health care with Obamacare than it was projected to spend without it. The bill was enacted in a democratic, deliberate, transparent, and excruciatingly slow fashion."

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...t-passing-obamacare-is-true-about-repeal.html

 

[ChloeTzang]

It was the voters who were worse than the candidates. And Trump didn't win the majority vote.

Doesn't matter about the numbers. It was those swing states that swung and Trump nailed the issues their. And I don't think it's a question of voters being worse than the candidates. It's more how did we get the candidates we got. Clinton for example, being as reprehensible as they get and what was the democrat alternative? And almost the only one. Look at the republicans. Who'd of though it'd boil down to Trump vs Cruz? In the end, what was the choice? And what do those two choices say about our political system? That Trump turned out to be the best choice is not the best of all outcomes, it's just the least worse and all it's doing is postponing the almost inevitable restructuring that's needed coz right now it's an impasse and getting worse and more hostile all the time. I have no idea what's better, I just think Trumps the least worse right now. Coz Clinton would have sparked something off and there's a lot of people out there just frothing at the mouth. On both sides. I dunno, I just don't see things improving and some nutjob on either side will do something crazy. I hope not but we've already seen one whacko out there.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

The Dumb Fucks who chose him want to have it two contradictory, illogical ways.

On the one hand, they're proud to say they know he's horrible, and a stupid, idiotic, imcompetant Dumb Shit who makes a mockery of American politics. That's what they voted FOR, to "give the middle finger" to all the elites by crowning a piece of shit as King. They love it. It gives them a big thrill. And they won. They crowned a Dumb Shit King. They gave the middle finger to people who don't know or care.

On the other hand, now that the Dumb Shit is in office, they want him to magically transform overnight into something they know very well (See: 1) he is not and will never be: a smart, competent person. But I thought he was a Dumb Shit and you were reveling in that? And yet you ALSO want him to be your savior and to deliver you?

You can't give the finger and get a deliverer in the same person. You put a piece of shit in power, all you're going to get is shit, by any logical reasoning process.

It's your own inherent contradiction. You want to claim Well, we knew he was horrible all along, that was the point. But also, He's going to deliver on his promises and give us everything we want. Nope. You're stuck with a smelly incompetent fool sitting in the Oval Office.

That's why they keep attacking "liberals" on chat boards: to remind themselves of why they're stuck with an incompetent fool. Let's relive the moment of saying Fuck you again and again! Er, when are we going to get our wall and beautiful, wonderful healthcare? Where are the jobs?????

Of course, the ever-shrinking "base" when confronted with their own utter stupidity, cannot admit they're victims of their own incompetence. Of course not. So, here come the rationales. If he can't deliver, it will be x,y, and z's fault, not OURS.

One of these days, they'll just have to wake up to the fact that they're standing all alone in front of a mirror giving themselves the middle finger. Whoo hoo!!

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18740068_1354298051327871_4542284793152941127_n.jpg?oh=507cce5ae4968b6bb46d0c49e68973e4&oe=599D519B

 

[phrodeau]

Let's see here, what did she say? Something like, "We will find out what's in it after we pass it".

What goes around comes around!

Nope.

 

[HisArpy]

The Dumb Fucks who chose him want to have it two contradictory, illogical ways.

On the one hand, they're proud to say they know he's horrible, and a stupid, idiotic, imcompetant Dumb Shit who makes a mockery of American politics. That's what they voted FOR, to "give the middle finger" to all the elites by crowning a piece of shit as King. They love it. It gives them a big thrill. And they won. They crowned a Dumb Shit King. They gave the middle finger to people who don't know or care.

On the other hand, now that the Dumb Shit is in office, they want him to magically transform overnight into something they know very well (See: 1) he is not and will never be: a smart, competent person. But I thought he was a Dumb Shit and you were reveling in that? And yet you ALSO want him to be your savior and to deliver you?

You can't give the finger and get a deliverer in the same person. You put a piece of shit in power, all you're going to get is shit, by any logical reasoning process.

It's your own inherent contradiction. You want to claim Well, we knew he was horrible all along, that was the point. But also, He's going to deliver on his promises and give us everything we want. Nope. You're stuck with a smelly incompetent fool sitting in the Oval Office.

That's why they keep attacking "liberals" on chat boards: to remind themselves of why they're stuck with an incompetent fool. Let's relive the moment of saying Fuck you again and again! Er, when are we going to get our wall and beautiful, wonderful healthcare? Where are the jobs?????

Of course, the ever-shrinking "base" when confronted with their own utter stupidity, cannot admit they're victims of their own incompetence. Of course not. So, here come the rationales. If he can't deliver, it will be x,y, and z's fault, not OURS.

One of these days, they'll just have to wake up to the fact that they're standing all alone in front of a mirror giving themselves the middle finger. Whoo hoo!!

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18740068_1354298051327871_4542284793152941127_n.jpg?oh=507cce5ae4968b6bb46d0c49e68973e4&oe=599D519B

You're mischaracterizing.

Trump voters voted because the alternatives were worse. Trump voters voted the way they did because at least Trump was TALKING TO THEM.

The other campaigns were all about how they were going to help the downtrodden but in the end, it was revealed that they were only all about themselves.

Hillary's collapse didn't help her either. We don't need a sick or infirm President. Especially not right now.

Trump MAY NOT help, but at least we have a chance. Not much chance and it's getting slimmer due to the obstruction by the left, but there's still a chance. And you know what? It seems to be happening.

Yeah, it's slow. And yeah, it's not pretty to look at. And yeah, a lot of people aren't very happy. But you know what I see when I look out of the window in MY town? Grocery stores opening. Other businesses hiring. And more people not looking so stressed or worried about their futures.

Could this have happened under Hillary? Maybe. But, given her track record of failures and blunders it is more likely that it wouldn't. And if it didn't we'd be much worse off than we were last November.

And if Hillary couldn't cut it because of her age or if the perceived medical issues turned out to be real, we'd have been left with Kaine leading the way. And THAT would have been a disaster.

Elections have consequences. One of the consequences is that the Dems lost. The Left in this case still can't understand why they lost legislative seats. Losing the White House was one thing, but losing Congressional AND State legislative seats should be telling them something. The PEOPLE weren't happy under their leadership. Until the Left understands that lesson, they will continue to try to delegitimize the Trump presidency out of nothing but sheer pique.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

LMFAO

Trump is the most conflicted President in history. Him and his family are making bucks off his presidency. He's being sued for so many things. He tweets and brags and bloviates about nothing but himself. He's the most narcissistic egomaniac on the planet. It's ONLY about himself. Me, me, me

Did you know he had the biggest crowds and the biggest electoral victory EVER? It's only about him. He never had the slightest intention of helping you, he's only in it for his giant, huge, fat ego.

Trump has not passed a single piece of legislation, much less tax reform. He hasn't DONE anything to radically change the economy. Job growth is down, not going up.

What I see is a President getting fatter and angrier, under investigation by a Special Counsel, being sued by some major lawsuits, losing his Travel Ban, not building his wall, unable to pass Healthcare, his agenda run into the ground, chaos and confusion in the White House, not able to corral a REPUBLICAN Congress, plummeting approval (just went down 14% for Republicans in one month), embarrassing the US all over the world.

On the one hand, you point out how Dems are completely out of power; on the other, you give them ALL the power to be stopping his agenda. LMAO. How? He has a Republican Congress. Trust me, if he can't do anything now, what will you say when Dems actually do take control of the House?

And, for someone so concerned about health, you elected the oldest President in history. He just keeps getting fatter, hates exercise, obviously looks like he's going to have a stroke any second.

But just keep dreamin' your dream

You're mischaracterizing.

Trump voters voted because the alternatives were worse. Trump voters voted the way they did because at least Trump was TALKING TO THEM.

The other campaigns were all about how they were going to help the downtrodden but in the end, it was revealed that they were only all about themselves.

Hillary's collapse didn't help her either. We don't need a sick or infirm President. Especially not right now.

Trump MAY NOT help, but at least we have a chance. Not much chance and it's getting slimmer due to the obstruction by the left, but there's still a chance. And you know what? It seems to be happening.

Yeah, it's slow. And yeah, it's not pretty to look at. And yeah, a lot of people aren't very happy. But you know what I see when I look out of the window in MY town? Grocery stores opening. Other businesses hiring. And more people not looking so stressed or worried about their futures.

Could this have happened under Hillary? Maybe. But, given her track record of failures and blunders it is more likely that it wouldn't. And if it didn't we'd be much worse off than we were last November.

And if Hillary couldn't cut it because of her age or if the perceived medical issues turned out to be real, we'd have been left with Kaine leading the way. And THAT would have been a disaster.

Elections have consequences. One of the consequences is that the Dems lost. The Left in this case still can't understand why they lost legislative seats. Losing the White House was one thing, but losing Congressional AND State legislative seats should be telling them something. The PEOPLE weren't happy under their leadership. Until the Left understands that lesson, they will continue to try to delegitimize the Trump presidency out of nothing but sheer pique.