Howard Dean suggests Elizabeth Warren is too old to be president

[james_1957]

If the Dems agree with Mr. Dean's age-based requirement for president, then....

There will be no Bernie, no Liz, no Hillary & no Uncle Joe.

Former Democratic National Committee Chair Howard Dean didn’t seem to thrilled by the idea of Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) being the Democratic Party’s 2020 presidential nominee, citing her age as the reason why during an interview on MSNBC on Sunday.

MSNBC’s Joy Reid asked Dean if Warren should run to be the Democratic Party’s nominee in 2020, and if he thinks she would be a viable candidate.

“She’d certainly be viable. I believe strongly that my generation needs to step into a coaching role, and that we need to have much younger people running for president,” Dean told Reid.

Dean noted how the party had gone back a generation. “Barack Obama was a new generation now, then we went back because Hillary Clinton was the overwhelming favorite for the nomination among Democrats.”

“I’d like to see somebody between the ages of 40 and 55 run for president,” Dean concluded.

Warren will be 70 years old in 2020, making her about 15 years outside Dean’s ideal age range.

http://ntknetwork.com/howard-dean-suggests-elizabeth-warren-is-too-old-to-be-president/

 

[water505]

A full fledged hypocritical liberal. What were the odds?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Agism?


From a Democrat?


How deep does their hypocrisy go???

 

[LincolnDuncan]

If the Dems agree with Mr. Dean's age-based requirement for president, then....

There will be no Bernie, no Liz, no Hillary & no Uncle Joe.



http://ntknetwork.com/howard-dean-suggests-elizabeth-warren-is-too-old-to-be-president/

He's right.They have image problems. He's not saying that he personally thinks they are too old, he is talking about the perceptions of the electorate. I'd vote for Bernie or Liz in a heartbeat but I know that Bernie is perceived as an old liberal Jew and I think that Warren will be perceived as too old and too much of a gurlie girl.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You didn't post that!



The DNC did!

 

[contrifan32]

You didn't post that!



The DNC did!

Snort

Only he would consider Warren a "girlie girl"

 

[KingOrfeo]

Warren has already said she won't run in 2020.

I'm hoping for Franken.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I'm hoping you are joking.

What? Franken is smart, he's sophisticated, he's honest, his heart is in exactly the right place, he has a sense of humor, he represents Minnesota so he knows all about "Real Americans," and yet he remains a smartass New York Jew -- he would make the best POTUS since Truman!

 

[BotanyBoy]

What? Franken is smart, he's sophisticated, he's honest, his heart is in exactly the right place, he has a sense of humor, he represents Minnesota so he knows all about "Real Americans," and yet he remains a smartass New York Jew -- he would make the best POTUS since Truman!

No and wrong.

 

[KingOrfeo]

No and wrong.

He is a sound progressive and left-populist -- a bit right of Sanders, perhaps, but certainly left of Hillary -- and that is exactly where every American's political heart should be.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Well, he might not be quite as far left as Sanders, but he is a sound progressive and left-populist, and that is exactly where every American heart should be.

Why should every American heart turn it's back on the basic principals upon which it was founded?

Since when should every American be anti-freedom on the most fundamental of levels?

 

[KingOrfeo]

Why should every American heart turn it's back on the basic principals upon which it was founded?

Since when should every American be anti-freedom on the most fundamental of levels?

Left-populist progressive politics are not anti-freedom and, more importantly, are the most publicly beneficial politics for these times.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Left-populist progressive politics are not anti-freedom.

Explain how giving up more of my rights, wealth and highly restricting my choice in lifestyle is not anti-freedom.

Seriously in what universe does that make sense to you...I'm genuinely honest what your thought process behind such an absurd notion is.

Explain how the nanny state controlling my life cradle to grave and charging me the majority of my lifetime production for the privilege = increased freedom.

and, more importantly, are the most publicly beneficial politics for these times.

Publicly beneficial =/= American .

 

[KingOrfeo]

Explain how giving up more of my rights, wealth and highly restricting my choice in lifestyle is not anti-freedom.

Progressives do not want to infringe on your rights, except perhaps worse than pointless ones like gun rights; they might raise your taxes but probably not, it's the superrich progressives really want to target; and what's this about "lifestyle"? The word is usually applied to LGBT and drug-user lifestyles,.

Explain how the nanny state controlling my life cradle to grave and charging me the majority of my lifetime production for the privilege = increased freedom.

It would not control your life, it would be a set of public services available to you. That's how it works in social democracies, and the people are free.

Publicly beneficial =/= American .

Lie. Damned lie.

 

[water505]

He is a sound progressive and left-populist -- a bit right of Sanders, perhaps, but certainly left of Hillary -- and that is exactly where every American's political heart should be.

Exactly where every American's political heart should be.

Zelig heil, motherfucker.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Exactly where every American's political heart should be.

Zelig heil, motherfucker.

Would not anyone who has any definite political views say the same thing about them?

 

[HisArpy]

Progressives do not want to infringe on your rights, except perhaps worse than pointless ones like gun rights; they might raise your taxes but probably not, it's the superrich progressives really want to target; and what's this about "lifestyle"? The word is usually applied to LGBT and drug-user lifestyles,.



It would not control your life, it would be a set of public services available to you. That's how it works in social democracies, and the people are free.



Lie. Damned lie.

:facepalm: (LAUREL! WE REALLY NEED a smilie for this!!!!)

Honestly, you REALLY need to read up on the stated goals of the progressive/liberal/Democratic party.

Let's take your "they don't want to take away your Rights" line. The only valid response is YES, they do.

They want to take away my guns. They want to take away my freedom to express my opinion if it's different. They want to take away MY MONEY that I worked HARD for and GIVE IT to someone else. They have ALREADY taken away my privacy.

Yet you would vote for more of this. And worse. :Where IS that facepalm smilie when you need it?:

Let's move on to the "it's not control of your life" thing. IF the only option is to accept the "set of public services" or emigrate, what CHOICE to I have to make my own decisions?

it comes down to mandatory this, and mandatory that or go to jail AND pay a ridiculous fine with "administrative fees". (Unless you're poor or a minority, then you don't do either.)

Ok, now the "super rich" thing.

I WANT TO BE "SUPER RICH!" I work hard. I save. I skimp. I go without. I do all I can to make my savings and investments grow. And what I see is that YOU want to get your sticky fingers on it after doing NOTHING to help make it grow. Just so YOU can have a piece of it too.

Thief. Plain and simple, no more - no less. Thief. And your tool of choice to steal from me with is the power and weight of the government.

But it's to be expected. A big chunk of America is lazy, shiftless, ignorant, and unable to figure out how to navigate the drive thru lane without fucking up the order OR hitting the side of the building or menu signboard with the car.

It used to be Americans were self sufficient. Now they cry, need anxiety meds, and a safe space when the phone/internet goes out and they can't order a pizza. It doesn't get much more pathetic than that.

 

[contrifan32]

:facepalm: (LAUREL! WE REALLY NEED a smilie for this!!!!)

Honestly, you REALLY need to read up on the stated goals of the progressive/liberal/Democratic party.

Let's take your "they don't want to take away your Rights" line. The only valid response is YES, they do.

They want to take away my guns. They want to take away my freedom to express my opinion if it's different. They want to take away MY MONEY that I worked HARD for and GIVE IT to someone else. They have ALREADY taken away my privacy.

Yet you would vote for more of this. And worse. :Where IS that facepalm smilie when you need it?:

Let's move on to the "it's not control of your life" thing. IF the only option is to accept the "set of public services" or emigrate, what CHOICE to I have to make my own decisions?

it comes down to mandatory this, and mandatory that or go to jail AND pay a ridiculous fine with "administrative fees". (Unless you're poor or a minority, then you don't do either.)

Ok, now the "super rich" thing.

I WANT TO BE "SUPER RICH!" I work hard. I save. I skimp. I go without. I do all I can to make my savings and investments grow. And what I see is that YOU want to get your sticky fingers on it after doing NOTHING to help make it grow. Just so YOU can have a piece of it too.

Thief. Plain and simple, no more - no less. Thief. And your tool of choice to steal from me with is the power and weight of the government.

But it's to be expected. A big chunk of America is lazy, shiftless, ignorant, and unable to figure out how to navigate the drive thru lane without fucking up the order OR hitting the side of the building or menu signboard with the car.

It used to be Americans were self sufficient. Now they cry, need anxiety meds, and a safe space when the phone/internet goes out and they can't order a pizza. It doesn't get much more pathetic than that.

But..but..but... you didn't make that money!

 

[water505]

Would not anyone who has any definite political views say the same thing about them?

Speaking for myself...he'll fucking no.

It wasn't enough that you can read the minds of millions of people. Now you've decided what they should think. What's next...forcing people to believe?

 

[Libsam]

What? Franken is smart, he's sophisticated, he's honest, his heart is in exactly the right place, he has a sense of humor, he represents Minnesota so he knows all about "Real Americans," and yet he remains a smartass New York Jew -- he would make the best POTUS since Truman!

Did you intend for people to read that with Stuart Smalley's voice in their head?
"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me."

 

[OldJourno]

He's right.They have image problems. He's not saying that he personally thinks they are too old, he is talking about the perceptions of the electorate. I'd vote for Bernie or Liz in a heartbeat but I know that Bernie is perceived as an old liberal Jew and I think that Warren will be perceived as too old and too much of a gurlie girl.

I don't perceive Bernie as an old liberal Jew. I think of him as a man with a Ph.D in idiot economics who honeymooned in Moscow. In other words, this world class dumbass thought the hellhole that was the Soviet Union was good for the general population.
And he'd happily put you in it, Lincoln Duncan.
Perceptions aside, Bernie Sanders is a fucking idiot.

 

[Libsam]

Does Minnesota still have lead water problems?

 

[HisArpy]

Does Minnesota still have lead water problems?

No, but the Vikings still suck anyway.

 

[KingOrfeo]

They want to take away my freedom to express my opinion if it's different.

No, they don't; nothing more than time, place and manner restrictions -- hate speech will never be an actual crime here as it is in some countries.

They want to take away MY MONEY that I worked HARD for and GIVE IT to someone else.

Every government does that and always will.

They have ALREADY taken away my privacy.

No, technological progress did that, neither left nor right is particularly to blame.

IF the only option is to accept the "set of public services" or emigrate, what CHOICE to I have to make my own decisions?

What on Earth are you talking about? Just because UHC, etc., is there does not mean you are obliged to use it.

Ok, now the "super rich" thing.

I WANT TO BE "SUPER RICH!"

So do I. That does not make their existence tolerable. They leverage their economic power into political power far out of proportionate to their numbers, which they wield in their own class interests to the detriment of everyone else's. That needs to change.

Thief.

Lie.

A big chunk of America is lazy, shiftless, ignorant . . .

Not so many are lazy, and the ignorant are more likely to have voted for Trump.

It used to be Americans were self sufficient. Now they cry, need anxiety meds, and a safe space when the phone/internet goes out and they can't order a pizza. It doesn't get much more pathetic than that.

More lies.

 

[water505]

I don't perceive Bernie as an old liberal Jew. I think of him as a man with a Ph.D in idiot economics who honeymooned in Moscow. In other words, this world class dumbass thought the hellhole that was the Soviet Union was good for the general population.
And he'd happily put you in it, Lincoln Duncan.
Perceptions aside, Bernie Sanders is a fucking idiot.

He's led such an accomplished life!