Dr David Evans: Global Warming is Manmade?

[trysail]

At least you admit you have no clue how large corporations work, so I'll give you points for that.

You've just leaped to yet another incorrect conclusion.


Been there. Done that. Seen stupid close up.

Not interested in mindless idiots.



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[Conager]

Research and development is a legitimate investment for both private and govt capital and essential for economic growth, at least in the free market consumer society that is the western world. You can argue that this or that R&D is, or is not, worthwhile but you cannot argue that is is bad for economic growth.

Of course I can. How many small business loans could have been granted in lieu of giving all that money to solyndra?

 

[Conager]

Tim Walberg needs to read this

- http://truthbook.com/stories/funny-god/the-drowning-man

I think God should rethink his use of row boats and helicopters. Does he not care about his carbon footprint?

 

[jaF0]

Kirby: Let God fix climate change? Sure - one giant flood, coming up
Salt Lake Tribune - ‎2 hours ago‎

 

[jaF0]

That said, I have no doubt Earth will survive Humans. It may take 100,000 years to recover after our extinction, but it will recover eventually sometime before our Sun goes Nova.

 

[Sean]

There are more yoga instructors in the US than are employed in the entire coal industry.

 

[Conager]

There are more yoga instructors in the US than are employed in the entire coal industry.

How many gigawatts are yoga instructors generating?

 

[jaF0]

How many coal miners could install solar panels?

How many coal miners could be yoga instructors?

How many solar panel installers could be coal miners?

How many yoga instructors could be coal miners?

 

[phrodeau]

How many gigawatts are yoga instructors generating?

You think coal workers are generating gigawatts? Giant hamster wheels, maybe?

 

[Emerson40]

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[KingOrfeo]

Of course I can. How many small business loans could have been granted in lieu of giving all that money to solyndra?

What does it matter? There's no reason to think that would have been a better investment, any or all of those small businesses might have failed.

 

[Conager]

What does it matter? There's no reason to think that would have been a better investment, any or all of those small businesses might have failed.

We know what the failure rate is on small businesses and they will not approach the failure rate of solyndra which was 100%

A five-year-old could have told you that their business plan was going to fail.

 

[Conager]

You think coal workers are generating gigawatts? Giant hamster wheels, maybe?

I think that coal produces gigawatts cheaply and cheap gigawatts powering industtial machinery makes industry more feasible than expensive gigawatts.

Do try to keep up.

No one is even remotely suggesting that the economic losses and the losses (now gains) to the labor market are exclusively coal miner's paychecks.

These calculations are done by actual economists using actual mathematics.

Why is it that your side can jump through fantastically stretched hoops about the possibilities of reducing waste fraud and abuse, no problem counting medicare (fictional) savings twice and has no trouble envisioning the multiplier effect of handing money to welfare recipients but you can't get the basics of how an economy is actually driven?

 

[hobbit.]

There are more yoga instructors in the US than are employed in the entire coal industry.

Good spot!

the coal industry should employ more yoga instructors!

 

[hobbit.]

I think God should rethink his use of row boats and helicopters. Does he not care about his carbon footprint?

personally i dont think he could give a flying fuck, he can part seas why he should he have a problem with sea levels?

get with the programme.

 

[Conager]

personally i dont think he could give a flying fuck, he can part seas why he should he have a problem with sea levels?

get with the programme.

'Twarnt my quote: http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=86028386&postcount=771

By the bye, if you'd drop the extraneous 'U's and the "m-e" at the end of program, you'd reduce your carbon output.

 

[phrodeau]

I think that coal produces gigawatts cheaply and cheap gigawatts powering industtial machinery makes industry more feasible than expensive gigawatts.

Do try to keep up.

No one is even remotely suggesting that the economic losses and the losses (now gains) to the labor market are exclusively coal miner's paychecks.

These calculations are done by actual economists using actual mathematics.

Why is it that your side can jump through fantastically stretched hoops about the possibilities of reducing waste fraud and abuse, no problem counting medicare (fictional) savings twice and has no trouble envisioning the multiplier effect of handing money to welfare recipients but you can't get the basics of how an economy is actually driven?

Coal produces gigawatts too expensively for the US to stay in the Paris Climate Agreement. That's the fact, Jack.

 

[Conager]

Coal produces gigawatts too expensively for the US to stay in the Paris Climate Agreement. That's the fact, Jack.

What?

 

[about_average]

You've just leaped to yet another incorrect conclusion.

ok, maybe you didn't admit you're clueless on how large corporations work.
But your statement that CEO's should be reviewing the work of people way down the food chain certainly proves you are clueless.

 

[phrodeau]

What?

If coal was so cheap, we should be able to afford to reverse the effect of burning coal. Since we can't, that means coal is too expensive to burn.

Honestly, it's like talking to a six-year-old.

 

[KingOrfeo]

A five-year-old could have told you that their business plan was going to fail.

Doubtful.

Between 2009 and mid-2011 the price of polysilicon, the key ingredient for most competing technologies, dropped by about 89%.[22] This precipitous drop in the cost of raw materials for Solyndra's competitors rendered CIGS technology incapable of competing.

Not an easily foreseeable development.

 

[jaF0]

I think that coal produces gigawatts cheaply and cheap gigawatts powering industtial machinery makes industry more feasible than expensive gigawatts.

Coal is far more expensive overall. There is the permanent scar on the Earth from the mining. There is the emissions into the air from burning it. It's very expensive to transport by truck, rail or water. And of course the miner's health. And there is the near constant feeding into the furnaces which has to be monitored..

Power generation by solar, wind and hydro is essentially 'free' once the equipment is manufactured and installed.

 

[HisArpy]

If coal was so cheap, we should be able to afford to reverse the effect of burning coal. Since we can't, that means coal is too expensive to burn.

Honestly, it's like talking to a six-year-old.

What?

 

[phrodeau]

Coal is far more expensive overall. There is the permanent scar on the Earth from the mining. There is the emissions into the air from burning it. It's very expensive to transport by truck, rail or water. And of course the miner's health. And there is the near constant feeding into the furnaces which has to be monitored..

Power generation by solar, wind and hydro is essentially 'free' once the equipment is manufactured and installed.

Ironic that the people who weep for the unfortunate birds caught in windmills have no problem with caging canaries for coal mines.

 

[jaF0]

On the flip side, I really don't know what it takes to mine silicon or whatever other materials are used in solar panels, or how much of a scar that process leaves.

I know mining gold on large scales is somewhat of a horrific process.