WH budget slashes anti-domestic-terrorism funding

[KingOrfeo]

No, really.

The budget proposal unveiled by the White House on Tuesday cut all funding to a Department of Homeland Security program known as "countering violent extremism," which provides grants to communities to counter radicalism through outreach.

The program, whose roots go back to the Obama administration, has come under scrutiny by the Trump administration and some congressional Republicans who favor law enforcement, rather than community outreach, to fight what they see as a growing Islamic extremist threat.

At the beginning of the administration, some White House and DHS officials considered changing the name of the program to "countering Islamic extremism," and refocusing the funding only on grants that dealt with the Islamic community, not other communities that may have extremist views like white supremacists.

The Trump administration has frozen $10 million in grants allocated at the end of the Obama administration under the countering violent extremism program and has yet to reallocate the funds.

The funding cuts proposed by the budget would reduce the $50 million currently allocated for the program down to zero for fiscal year 2018.

I recall some online discussions of "outrage fatigue" in the later years of the W Admin. In this one I expect it to come on much sooner.

And yes, the thread title gets it right. Violent extremism = domestic terrorism.

 

[Hard_Rom]

No profit in outreach programs. But some one can make a buck militarizing the police, running prisons and doing surgery on terrorist attack victims.

 

[Conager]

Good.

No point spending all that money tracking guys woth gadsden flags and NRA stickers on their pickup trucks.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Good.

No point spending all that money tracking guys woth gadsden flags and NRA stickers on their pickup trucks.

Of course there's a point to that, and it's not what the money is for anyway.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The Trump administration has frozen $10 million in grants allocated at the end of the Obama administration under the countering violent extremism program and has yet to reallocate the funds.

Awwww looks like obama firends won't be getting a funding hook up .

Sucks for them!!

 

[KingOrfeo]

Awwww looks like obama firends won't be getting a funding hook up .

That's some astonishing idiocy even for you.

 

[OldJourno]

This "cut" amounts to a rounding error in the DHS budget.
But if I were you, KO, I'd get my balls in an uproar.

 

[BotanyBoy]

That's some astonishing idiocy even for you.

And again you can't explain why other than the fact that I'm happy some Obama friends didn't get made into 1%'ers.

Which is usually the times when you get pressed into basic name calling...

 

[perturbed]

there is NO such thing as DOMESTIC TERROR

its called a CRIME

 

[Wrong Element]

Just pandering to the base.

 

[Hard_Rom]

What's more fun, saving a young mind from hatred and terror or blasting off Tomahawk cruise missiles?

 

[Rightguide]

No, really.



I recall some online discussions of "outrage fatigue" in the later years of the W Admin. In this one I expect it to come on much sooner.

And, yes, the thread title gets it right. Violent extremism = domestic terrorism.

Most likely too much money being allocated to going after the innocent returning veterans Obama was so scared of.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

What's more fun, saving a young mind from hatred and terror or blasting off Tomahawk cruise missiles?

Ooh, ooh...I know! Killing more brown-skinned people with funny-sounding names on the other side of the planet by remote while pretending a yuuuge wall is going to be built to keep our society pure and your wife is draining the nation's dupes half a million dollars a day living in a glass tower in NYC because she doesn't wanna sleep with you or do her fucking job!

That's oober fun times, y'all!

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[perturbed]

Perturbed Knee Grow^^^^^

 

[OldJourno]

Hey, if they keep the budget intact will DHS have the funds to find out who is hiding behind those black masks while breaking windows at UC Berkley? Will they unmask the fascists in the Antifa?

 

[KingOrfeo]

And again you can't explain why other than the fact that I'm happy some Obama friends didn't get made into 1%'ers.

It's a community outreach program, it has nothing to do with "Obama's friends."

 

[KingOrfeo]

Hey, if they keep the budget intact will DHS have the funds to find out who is hiding behind those black masks while breaking windows at UC Berkley? Will they unmask the fascists in the Antifa?

The money is not for investigative purposes.

 

[KingOrfeo]

This "cut" amounts to a rounding error in the DHS budget.

Most budget cuts do, but they make a real difference in whether what they affect gets funded or not, and this was pretty important.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Most likely too much money being allocated to going after the innocent returning veterans Obama was so scared of.

 

[rocket_surgery]

Dosmestic terrorists don't do what they do because there wasn't an outreach program in their town. I really don't see any problem with losing it.
Terrorists don't give a fuck about community programs no matter where they are from. You can't talk to people like that. Pretending we can is a waste of time and money.
You think Westboro Baptist is going to suddenly stop the hate because Kansas got a new outreach program? Think the Unabomber would have stopped?

Trumps budget sucks hairy ass but some things are just a waste of money.

 

[rocket_surgery]

your wife is draining the nation's dupes half a million dollars a day living in a glass tower in NYC because she doesn't wanna sleep with you or do her fucking job!

The first lady has nothing to do with anything. Hating on her is just being an asshole. And she doesn't have a job unless you count fucking her sugar daddy.
She wants to raise her kid at home and not live with her full time John that's her business. Pretty sure she had no say in anything to begin with.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Dosmestic terrorists don't do what they do because there wasn't an outreach program in their town.

Actually, it might help.

The number of violent attacks on U.S. soil inspired by far-right ideology has spiked since the beginning of this century, rising from a yearly avarage of 70 attacks in the 1990s to a yearly avarage of more than 300 since 2001. These incidents have grown even more common since President Donald Trump’s election.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit that researches U.S. extremism, reported 900 bias-related incidents against minorities in the first 10 days after Trump’s election – compared to several dozen in a normal week – and the group found that many of the harassers invoked the then-president-elect’s name. Similarly, the Anti-Defamation League, a nonprofit that tracks anti-Semitism, recorded an 86 percent rise in anti-Semitic incidents in the first three months of 2017.

Beyond the terror that victimized communities are experiencing, I would argue that this trend reflects a deeper social change in American society.

The iceberg model of political extremism, initially developed by Ehud Shprinzak, an Israeli political scientist, can illuminate these dynamics.

Murders and other violent attacks perpetrated by U.S. far-right extremists compose the visible tip of an iceberg. The rest of this iceberg is under water and out of sight. It includes hundreds of attacks every year that damage property and intimidate communities, such as the recent attempted burning of an African-American family’s garage in Schodack, New York. The garage was also defaced with racist graffiti.

Data my team collected at the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point show that the significant growth in far-right violence in recent years is happening at the base of the iceberg. While the main reasons for that are still not clear, it is important to remember that changes in societal norms are usually reflected in behavioral changes. Hence, it is more than reasonable to suspect that extremist individuals engage in such activities because they sense that their views are enjoying growing social legitimacy and acceptance, which is emboldening them to act on their bigotry.

Outreach programs can spread the message, and foster the general social attitude, that bigotry is not acceptable -- and that is needed now more than ever to counter the Trump Admin's contrary message.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

The first lady has nothing to do with anything. Hating on her is just being an asshole. And she doesn't have a job unless you count fucking her sugar daddy.
She wants to raise her kid at home and not live with her full time John that's her business. Pretty sure she had no say in anything to begin with.

Nah.

The way Michelle got railed on daily for going above and beyond in being a FLOTUS, Melly will be catching all the hands for getting a pass for doing next to nothing and being a colossal money drain in doing so.

Don't like it? Don't care. She's in that seat. She's supporting that fucking blimp. She needs to step up and do that work instead of swatting his hands away.

 

[rocket_surgery]

Nah.

The way Michelle got railed on daily for going above and beyond in being a FLOTUS, Melly will be catching all the hands for getting a pass for doing next to nothing and being a colossal money drain in doing so.

Don't like it? Don't care. She's in that seat. She's supporting that fucking blimp. She needs to step up and do that work instead of swatting his hands away.

So you're hating on someone because someone else hated on a different person? And that makes sense to you?

 

[rocket_surgery]

Actually, it might help.



Outreach programs can spread the message, and foster the general social attitude, that bigotry is not acceptable -- and that is needed now more than ever to counter the Trump Admin's contrary message.

Thinking a bigot is going to change because people are saying it's wrong to be a bigot is beyond naive. Terrorists of all kinds don't give a shit what anyone thinks
You could give the money for more cow fart research and get better results. .