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water505

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Losing sleep, lack of libido or appetite, depression, or any other snowflake malady doesn't count.

If you believe Lit leftists acid rain is coming back, Roe v. Wade will overturned, black people will be enslaved again, Hitler will rise from the dead, Lit and any and all porn will become illegal, people whose names end in a vowel will be deported, gay people will be rounded up, put in jail, or murdered, the occurrence of rape will climb by 3,000%, women's salaries will be cut in half, babies who need heart surgery will be thrown out of the hospital into the snow if they don't have insurance, all trees will be cut down, and our water will be poisoned.

That's just for starters.
 
Not mine, I'm white, but many people who aren't have had to put up with some nasty shit lately.
 
I've had to read your drivel, but otherwise no effects here.
 
You for the last 8 years;
Obama will take our guns and implement death panels!

STFU, miles.
 
water505 said:
When I saw SPLC, I closed the page immediately.

You believe absolutely everything that comes out of the mouths of leftists.

The SPLC is a fucking joke that prey upon naive goobers like you.
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The SPLC is not leftist -- anti-hate is not left or right -- and it has considerable and deserved credibility, unlike say, Fox News or Newsmax or Breitbart or the New York Post or the Washington Times or . . .
 
The SPLC is a fucking joke. It's a slime ball, race baiting, whore of an organization that doesn't accomplish a damn thing aside from making their leaders filthy rich. Groups and individuals who don't buy into the Big Lies and Myths of the left are branded as hate groups. They're despicable. I'm surprised Al Sharpton isn't a major player. Maybe they're so sleazy even he won't have anything to do with them.

There is nothing anyone can say or do to make you even consider you might be wrong about anything. Having a discussion with you is like trying to reason with a toddler.
 
water505 said:
The SPLC is a fucking joke. It's a slime ball, race baiting, whore of an organization that doesn't accomplish a damn thing aside from making their leaders filthy rich. Groups and individuals who don't buy into the Big Lies and Myths of the left are branded as hate groups. They're despicable. I'm surprised Al Sharpton isn't a major player. Maybe they're so sleazy even he won't have anything to do with them.

There is nothing anyone can say or do to make you even consider you might be wrong about anything. Having a discussion with you is like trying to reason with a toddler.
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Shut the fuck up, Miles.
 
water505 said:
The SPLC is a fucking joke. It's a slime ball, race baiting, whore of an organization that doesn't accomplish a damn thing aside from making their leaders filthy rich. Groups and individuals who don't buy into the Big Lies and Myths of the left are branded as hate groups. They're despicable. I'm surprised Al Sharpton isn't a major player. Maybe they're so sleazy even he won't have anything to do with them.
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All lies.
 
Rightguide said:
You should read about its history.
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SPLC:

The Southern Poverty Law Center was founded by civil rights lawyers Morris Dees and Joseph J. Levin Jr. in 1971 as a law firm originally focused on issues such as fighting poverty, racial discrimination and the death penalty in the United States. The SPLC's first president was Julian Bond, who served until 1979 and then remained on the board of directors until his death in 2015. In 1979, Dees and the SPLC began monitoring far-right groups such as the Ku Klux Klan, sharing their observations with law enforcement agencies (which, after the COINTELPRO program was revealed, were forbidden from monitoring such groups without evidence of criminal activity).[11] They initiated civil suits against KKK chapters and similar organizations for monetary damages to gain justice on behalf of their victims.[11] In 1981, the Center began its Klanwatch project to monitor the activities of the KKK. That project, now called Hatewatch, has been expanded to include seven other types of hate organizations.[12]

In 1986, the entire legal staff of the SPLC, excluding Dees, resigned as the organization shifted from traditional civil rights work toward fighting right-wing extremism.[11]

In 1989, the Center unveiled its Civil Rights Memorial, which was designed by Maya Lin.[13] The Center's "Teaching Tolerance" project was initiated in 1991.

In 2008, the SPLC and Dees were featured on National Geographic's Inside American Terror explaining their litigation against several branches of the Ku Klux Klan.[14]
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Nothing alarming about that. Now this, OTOH, is alarming:

In July 1983, the SPLC headquarters was firebombed, destroying the building and records.[15] As a result of the arson, Klansmen Joe M. Garner and Roy T. Downs Jr., along with Klan sympathizer Charles Bailey, pleaded guilty in February 1985 to conspiring to intimidate, oppress and threaten members of black organizations represented by SPLC.[16] The SPLC rebuilt its headquarters building from 1999 to 2001.[17][18]

In 1984, Dees became an assassination target of The Order, a revolutionary white supremacist group.[19] By 2007, according to Dees, more than 30 people had been jailed in connection with plots to kill him or to blow up SPLC offices.[20][self-published source?]

In 1995, four men were indicted for planning to blow up the SPLC.[21] In May 1998, three white supremacists were arrested for allegedly planning a nationwide campaign of assassinations and bombings targeting "Morris Dees, an undisclosed federal judge in Illinois, a black radio show host in Missouri, Dees's Southern Poverty Law Center in Alabama, the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, and the Anti-Defamation League in New York."[22]
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BotanyBoy said:
There goes KO lying to himself again...LOL
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It might have been founded by leftists, but that does not make it leftist. SPLC has a definite agenda which cannot be fairly described as left, or right, or in any way objectionable.
 
KingOrfeo said:
It might have been founded by leftists, but that does not make it leftist. SPLC has a definite agenda which cannot be fairly described as left
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Again with the lying to himself LOL

Why is that lie so important to you KO?
 
KingOrfeo said:
It might have been founded by leftists, but that does not make it leftist. SPLC has a definite agenda which cannot be fairly described as left, or right, or in any way objectionable.[/QUOTE

Oh please. They are left of center. Its ok to own that.
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KingOrfeo said:
Because it is the truth.
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No, it's not.

They were founded by leftist have a leftist history and currently push a leftist agenda.

They are the left, maybe not a social justice marxist, but not far off and still solidly left of center.
 
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Christobal said:
KingOrfeo said:
It might have been founded by leftists, but that does not make it leftist. SPLC has a definite agenda which cannot be fairly described as left, or right, or in any way objectionable.
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Oh please. They are left of center. Its ok to own that.
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Which carries a far different connotation than "leftist." Even an establishment neoliberal like Hillary could arguably be labeled "left of center," at least on social/cultural issues. It doesn't matter, I'm sure its members almost always vote D, but the SPLC's agenda is not left or right, merely enlightened.
 
This is also interesting:

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is an American legal advocacy organization for civil rights causes. Fundies and Paulbots hate this about as much as they hate Jimmy Carter.

It is headquartered in Montgomery, Alabama. Attorneys Morris Dees and Joseph J. Levin Jr. founded the SPLC in 1971 while arguing a desegregation case involving the YMCA. After the case ended, future ACLU president Julian Bond was hired as the SPLC's president.

The SPLC originally focused on racist groups, most notably the KKK. Their Klanwatch program has since been expanded into Hatewatch, which keeps track of all forms of American hate groups. Their website is a fantastically useful resource collection. In what we're all sure is a complete coincidence, presence of SPLC listed hate groups in a county is a strong predictor of far-right violence.[1]

The SPLC and Christian hate groups

The SPLC releases an annual list of what they consider to be currently active hate groups. They have recently, during the last few years, added a few Christian fundamentalist and evangelical ministries to the list, which espouse homophobia, anti-Catholicism, and/or hatred against Muslims. Examples are the Family Research Council, Chick Publications, Traditional Values Coalition, Power of Prophecy, Parents Action League, and the American Family Association.

Anyone who ever got involved in born again Christianity has known about these groups for years; although some, like Jack Chick, are bona-fide cranks, many have been around for decades and are hardly "fringe" within American evangelicalism. Two questions come to mind:

1. What took the SPLC so long to add them to their list?
2. Why just these few token groups, and why are so many other obvious ones missing? One searches in vain for any of Pat Robertson's groups, Liberty University and anything else associated with the Falwells, the Scottsdale, AZ Spiritual Freedom Church, Bob Jones University, Sword of the Lord, or any of the big megachurches, but they are nowhere to be found. Give the SPLC credit for at least adding a few such groups, but it's so much easier to just top-load the list with "groups" that are just some 18 year old skinhead with a post office box and web page, isn't it?

This latter issue may be far more damaging to their mission than it seems, as it makes their addition of a few Christian extremists here and there look like targeted axe-grinding instead of a result of the application of a broad, consistent standard. The fact that they do not present their criteria for inclusion furthers this effect, unfortunately. However, given the raging persecution complex and political and media influence of the likes of Robertson or Falwell, their absence is understandable, if lamentable. Likewise, there is probably a very practical reason for the SPLC not to publish their evaluation standards, namely the extremely legalistic and litigious nature of the U.S. political field in which they operate.[2]

Ben Carson

Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson wound up on the SPLC's list of extremists in October 2014. In February 2015 this came to the conservative media's attention, they covered this months-old happening as news for a while, and the SPLC eventually removed his profile, apologized, but then fired quite the Parthian shot.[3] Effectively, the SPLC buckled under the scrutiny of the Fair and Balanced media and admitted that its original profile of Carson was sloppy, while simultaneously highlighting examples of Carson's statements that would merit his inclusion on the list, given a better researched profile.

Progressive Criticism

The progressive Mother Jones magazine, on the other hand, has criticized them for casting their net too wide and including activists motivated primarily by civil liberties or libertarian issues, whose views have been construed by others to support racist ideologies (for example, state's rights advocates whose statements might fall in line with Confederate sympathizers).[4] Some more notable selections include the Ludwig von Mises Institute, dedicated to worshipping the corpses of Murray Rothbard and other Austrian economics superstars, as well as factions of the Tea Party that insist they do in fact need that many guns.

It should also be noted that not only has the SPLC never added any TERF groups to their list of hate groups, but have even worked with infamous transphobic hatemonger Cathy Brennan (which isn't the same as saying they haven't taken any transgender-centered cases[5]).

In 2000, Ken Silverstein of Harper's magazine accused the SPLC of using intolerance as a fundraising mechanism.[6]

On October 25, 2016 the SPLC profiled a number of "Anti-Muslim Extremists" which included Ayaan Hirsi Ali[7] and Maajid Nawaz (a Muslim himself),[8] sparking criticism from Sam Harris,[9] Hemant Mehta of the Friendly Atheist blog[10] and Sarah Haider of Ex-Muslims of North America.[11]

The SPLC has been accused of very zealous fund raising.

"What the Center’s other work for justice does not include is anything that might be considered controversial by donors. According to Millard Farmer, the Center largely stopped taking death-penalty cases for fear that too visible an opposition to capital punishment would scare off potential contributors. In 1986, the Center’s entire legal staff quit in protest of Dees’s refusal to address issues-such as homelessness, voter registration, and affirmative action-that they considered far more pertinent to poor minorities, if far less marketable to affluent benefactors, than fighting the KKK. Another lawyer, Gloria Browne, who resigned a few years later, told reporters that the Center’s programs were calculated to cash in on “black pain and white guilt.” Asked in 1994 if the SPLC itself, whose leadership consists almost entirely of white men, was in need of an affirmative action policy, Dees replied that “probably the most discriminated people in America today are white men when it comes to jobs. (...) A National Journal survey of salaries paid to the top officers of advocacy groups shows that Dees earned more in 1998 than nearly all of the seventy-eight listed, tens of thousands more than the heads of such groups as the ACLU, the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, and the Children’s Defense Fund. The more money the SPLC receives, the less that goes to other civil rights organizations, many of which, including the NAACP, have struggled to stay out of bankruptcy. Dees’s compensation alone amounts to one quarter the annual budget of the Atlanta-based Southern Center for Human Rights, which handles several dozen death-penalty cases a year. “You are a fraud and a conman,” the Southern Center’s director, Stephen Bright, wrote in a 1996 letter to Dees, and proceeded to list his many reasons for thinking so, which included “your failure to respond to the most desperate needs of the poor and powerless despite your millions upon millions, your fund-raising techniques, the fact that you spend so much, accomplish so little, and promote yourself so shamelessly.” Soon the SPLC will move into a new six-story headquarters in downtown Montgomery, just across the street from its current headquarters, a building known locally as the Poverty Palace."[12]
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Of course, any organization dedicated to fighting intolerance will use intolerance as a fundraising mechanism, and should.
 
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