The EPA is getting rid of 5 scientists and replacing them with energy insiders

[KingOrfeo]

Story.

On Friday, the Environmental Protection Agency fired at least five scientists that sat on the agency’s Board of Science Counselors — a major scientific review board, according to the New York Times. The decision is President Donald Trump’s latest, and perhaps most damning effort to dismantle the EPA, as its administrator Scott Pruitt intends to replace the scientists with fossil fuel industry insiders that could directly benefit the agencies they are supposed to regulate.

J. P. Freire, a spokesperson for the EPA, told the Times that Pruitt believes “we should have people on this board who understand the impact of regulations on the regulated community.” This means that academic scientists will be replaced by “representatives from industries whose pollution the agency is supposed to regulate, as part of the wide net it plans to cast,” the Times reported. Six weeks ago a bill passed the House of Representatives that aims to change another of the agencies scientific review board, hoping to fill the spots with corporate insiders.

NYT source article.

 

[Rightguide]

Probably 5 witch doctors.

 

[SyKoKo]

Story.



NYT source article.

abpout time

 

[SyKoKo]

Probably 5 witch doctors.

http://yourblackworld.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/10/obama-witch-doctor.jpg

 

[Christobal]

So many things to worry about. Not that it will change anything.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Probably 5 witch doctors.

Not even you believe that.

 

[Hard_Rom]

witch doctors or paid flunkies take your pick

 

[Rightguide]

Not even you believe that.

Who else could be so consistently wrong?

Global Quackery: Earth Has Not Warmed For Past 19 Years, New Study FindsGlobal Quackery: Earth Has Not Warmed For Past 19 Years, New Study Finds


We are bombarded with "facts" every day: This is the "hottest [pick a season] ever"; the ice caps are at a record low; we'll all be dead in 10 years.

For former president Barack Obama, the ever-changing and often contradictory "facts" about global warming (which liberals now call climate change because the globe stopped warming) was simply "settled science."

But now it turns out the Arctic sea ice is thicker than ever and, oh yeah, the global temperature trend has not warmed for 19 years. That's right -- 19 years!

The Telegraph newspaper in the UK has published a fascinating article detailing data from the Danish Meteorological Institute (DMI).

Ever since December temperatures in the Arctic have consistently been lower than minus 20 C. In April the extent of Arctic sea ice was back to where it was in April 13 years ago. Furthermore, whereas in 2008 most of the ice was extremely thin, this year most has been at least two metres thick. The Greenland ice cap last winter increased in volume faster than at any time for years.

As for those record temperatures brought in 2016 by an exceptionally strong El Niño, the satellites now show that in recent months global temperatures have plummeted by more that 0.6 degrees: just as happened 17 years ago after a similarly strong El Niño had also made 1998 the “hottest year on record”.

This means the global temperature trend has now shown no further warming for 19 years. But the BBC won’t be telling us any of this. And we are still stuck with that insanely damaging Climate Change Act, which in this election will scarcely get a mention.

​The author then goes on to decry the very real consequences to businesses and citizens from governments continuing to enact ever more stringent regulation to offset this global "warming." But the real findings of the DMI are significant. The liberal media might take issue with a U.S. think tank funding a study that says global warming doesn't exist -- or at least hasn't for 19 years -- but they'll accept the findings from little ol' Denmark, won't they?

But wait, there's more -- much more.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/16154...tm_content=050817-news&utm_campaign=position2

 

[adrina]

Whew. I am so glad we avoided that email server fiasco. What a complete disaster that would have been. We sure dodged a bullet there.

 

[Rightguide]

Whew. I am so glad we avoided that email server fiasco. What a complete disaster that would have been. We sure dodged a bullet there.

Did you protect your furrow while gardening?

 

[adrina]

Did you protect your furrow while gardening?

My furrow and I appreciate your concern. You can rest assured that my furrow was - and is - well protected.

Someone such as yourself needn't ever worry about my furrow - I'm sure there are many gay or transgender furrows you would prefer to pay attention to. That's more your speed.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Who else could be so consistently wrong?

Global Quackery: Earth Has Not Warmed For Past 19 Years, New Study FindsGlobal Quackery: Earth Has Not Warmed For Past 19 Years, New Study Finds

That might be a point against the "science is settled" position on climate change, but it makes no climatologist a witch doctor. Trying to discredit climatologists with a report from the Danish Meteorological Institute is like trying to discredit physicists by pointing to a dissenting minority of physicists (there must be some) who reject the dark matter hypothesis. Just because physicists don't (yet) know everything about physics does not mean they don't know what they're talking about.

Also, it's not clear from the article in the OP that the scientists to be fired are climatologists. All kinds of scientists advise the EPA.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Prove to us that they were "scientists."



I double-dawg dare you...

 

[Hard_Rom]

Climatology (from Greek κλίμα, klima, "place, zone"; and -λογία, -logia) or climate science is the study of climate, scientifically defined as weather conditions averaged over a period of time.[1] This modern field of study is regarded as a branch of the atmospheric sciences and a subfield of physical geography, which is one of the Earth sciences.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatology

*hence someone who studies climatology is a scientist. now industry flunkies need not be real scientists*

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Such a diverse set of approaches...






When was the first doctorate in 'Climatology' awarded?

 

[Hard_Rom]

Chinese scientist Shen Kuo (1031–1095) inferred that climates naturally shifted over an enormous span of time, after observing petrified bamboos found underground near Yanzhou (modern day Yan'an, Shaanxi province), a dry-climate area unsuitable for the growth of bamboo.

Early climate researchers include Edmund Halley, who published a map of the trade winds in 1686 after a voyage to the southern hemisphere. Benjamin Franklin (1706–1790) first mapped the course of the Gulf Stream for use in sending mail from the United States to Europe. Francis Galton (1822–1911) invented the term anticyclone. Helmut Landsberg (1906–1985) fostered the use of statistical analysis in climatology, which led to its evolution into a physical science. Landsberg received his Ph.D. from the University of Frankfurt in Germany,

 

[KingOrfeo]

*hence someone who studies climatology is a scientist. now industry flunkies need not be real scientists*

It's not clear they even intend to nominate fake scientists to the EPA Board of Science Counselors. The nominees could be ExxonMobil execs with no science background at all.

 

[Rightguide]

My furrow and I appreciate your concern. You can rest assured that my furrow was - and is - well protected.

Someone such as yourself needn't ever worry about my furrow - I'm sure there are many gay or transgender furrows you would prefer to pay attention to. That's more your speed.

Ahh, C'mon have a sense of humor.

 

[adrina]

Ahh, C'mon have a sense of humor.

Say or do something humorous.

 

[Rightguide]

Say or do something humorous.

Without you having a sense of humor it would be a waste of time talking to Angry Adrina.

 

[Disgustipated]

Without you having a sense of humor it would be a waste of time talking to Angry Adrina.

You make piss and fart jokes like a prepubescent child with no sense of humor. No adult woman is going to laugh with you. At you, yes.

 

[phrodeau]

Who else could be so consistently wrong?

Global Quackery: Earth Has Not Warmed For Past 19 Years, New Study FindsGlobal Quackery: Earth Has Not Warmed For Past 19 Years, New Study Finds


We are bombarded with "facts" every day: This is the "hottest [pick a season] ever"; the ice caps are at a record low; we'll all be dead in 10 years.

For former president Barack Obama, the ever-changing and often contradictory "facts" about global warming (which liberals now call climate change because the globe stopped warming) was simply "settled science."

But now it turns out the Arctic sea ice is thicker than ever and, oh yeah, the global temperature trend has not warmed for 19 years. That's right -- 19 years!

The Telegraph newspaper in the UK has published a fascinating article detailing data from the Danish Meteorological Institute (DMI).

Ever since December temperatures in the Arctic have consistently been lower than minus 20 C. In April the extent of Arctic sea ice was back to where it was in April 13 years ago. Furthermore, whereas in 2008 most of the ice was extremely thin, this year most has been at least two metres thick. The Greenland ice cap last winter increased in volume faster than at any time for years.

As for those record temperatures brought in 2016 by an exceptionally strong El Niño, the satellites now show that in recent months global temperatures have plummeted by more that 0.6 degrees: just as happened 17 years ago after a similarly strong El Niño had also made 1998 the “hottest year on record”.

This means the global temperature trend has now shown no further warming for 19 years. But the BBC won’t be telling us any of this. And we are still stuck with that insanely damaging Climate Change Act, which in this election will scarcely get a mention.

​The author then goes on to decry the very real consequences to businesses and citizens from governments continuing to enact ever more stringent regulation to offset this global "warming." But the real findings of the DMI are significant. The liberal media might take issue with a U.S. think tank funding a study that says global warming doesn't exist -- or at least hasn't for 19 years -- but they'll accept the findings from little ol' Denmark, won't they?

But wait, there's more -- much more.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/16154...tm_content=050817-news&utm_campaign=position2

Enough with this shit. Your sources are clearly misinforming you.

"Ever since December temperatures in the Arctic have consistently been lower than minus 20 C."

Yes, but that is still well above the normal arctic temperature. Here are the figures, if you really care.

http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

This is from Denmark, so there's no taint of Obama money in it. See the graphs, see the mean line between 25 and 30 degrees below 0 C. See the current average temps well above it. See the past year's graphs and the warmer winter months. See how far back you have to go to find any records below the mean.

 

[renard_ruse]

"Scientists"? You mean like Bill Nye the Fake Science Guy?

 

[renard_ruse]

About time to get some actual energy industry engineers on these boards to provide another perspective besides the liberal academe "scientists" who have never had to make a living in the real world.

 

[phrodeau]

"Scientists"? You mean like Bill Nye the Fake Science Guy?

Bill Nye isn't one of them, sorry.

Trump would probably want to hire him, though. He gets good ratings.