So many of you were too young...
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Not everyone.
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Ken Burns has one of his massively all-encompassing multipart docs coming out on PBS in the Fall on the US involvement in Vietnam.
I just remember calling bullshit on every other tatted up dood in Daytona biker bars Vietnam war stories. Nowadays all the cool kids are Navy SEALS.
I just remember calling bullshit on every other tatted up dood in Daytona biker bars Vietnam war stories. Nowadays all the cool kids are Navy SEALS.
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I remember. I was stationed in Korea at the time.
Did YOU serve in the war? simple question.
Well...yeah. wouldn't it serve us all better to just shake off all the insecurities?
I've never heard of Ken Burns...here in Texas, we have Alex Jones..
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Did YOU serve in the war? simple question.
Well...yeah. wouldn't it serve us all better to just shake off all the insecurities?
I've never heard of Ken Burns...here in Texas, we have Alex Jones..
Nope. And I doubt very many of the "Dooooood, you weren't thereeeee man" types in Daytona bars during bike week in the 80's did either.
Was good to see actual vets hold their heads up a little higher after Desert Storm, you guys got a shitty deal for too long.
Wow...you aren't even a Vet who served this country? You seem to piss on the very men who did.
One of these days I'll tell you about caring for a 100% disabled Vet; totally blind needing dialysis 3 times a week (4 hours it takes).
He's my father. He served in Vietnam.
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No you're just reading it that way.
And I never said I never served, just not in Vietnam, and guys that never did but liked to tell bar stories that they did always irked me. Those guys used to tell stories they were "in 'Nam" are now the guys posting trident tats on Facebook.
Are we on the same page now?
Good on you for taking care of your old man.
I totally gotcha now. Pork, I'm sorry. I'm kinda slumping under the weight of BOTH aging parents.
I'll re-connect with you soon. Thanks and a hug.
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It's fascinating that after twelve years being a member of this forum, your
subject matter always deals with the past.
Interesting.
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So...unless he was stationed at Osan AB and was a cop, I wouldn't know him.
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A few stats for you:
9,087,000 served in the military during the Vietnam conflict.
3,403,100 served in the theater of war.
2,594,000 served within Vietnam
13,853,027 claimed to be Vietnam veterans in the 2000 census
Isn't it amazing how having been in the war went from being a thing where we were spit on when we came home to being a status symbol? Won't of thunk it.
The thing that irritates me is that many agency are starting to lump in country vets and those who served else where as one. I bet it was hell drinking German beer or fucking a Yobo in Korea. Such terribly hard times that must have been. They might even have gotten a scar or two from falling off a bar stool. Yea, them garrison troops are all over the place.
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My Dad served in Nam, but to me it was just stuff happening on TV. The only clear image I recall is of a bunch of peasants in conical straw hats (first time I'd ever seen such hats IRL, though based on children's books and cartoons one iconically associated them with Asians) drinking water.
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Most who went to Vietnam were stupid.
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Forrest? Forrest Gump?
Anyway, bless our veterans. They deserve the best and the States does not do enough for them.
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Only $8,000 a month to pay for the long term effects of the whorers of war!
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I recall that one year (when I was too young to serve) my draft number was 007 a.k.a guaranteed ticket to Vietnam.
I'm inclined to agree, but, for a dissenting opinion, see Vietnam: The Necessary War, by Michael Lind. His thesis is that the Vietnam War was not terribly important in itself, but crucially important as a theater of the Cold War. The Cold War was mainly an American-Soviet competition for prestige in the eyes of the decolonized Third World countries or non-aligned nations; if the Commies ever appeared to be winning it, those countries would climb on board with them in a "bandwagon effect," which at any rate makes more sense than "domino theory." Therefore, it was necessary for the U.S. to fight the Vietnam War even if it had no hope of winning it; anything else would have made the Third Worlders lose confidence in America's determination to honor its commitments.
Of course, all of that raises the question of whether the Cold War itself was a war worth fighting. IMO, the West could have simply left the USSR alone; if so, it probably would still exist today, but Communism would be no step nearer to taking over the world.
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How did you get a draft number if you were too young to serve?
Sounds like you were in Vetteman's unit.
