Do You Know When You Cant Go Further?

[NOIRTRASH]

My latest is 35,000 words, starts with a mugging and ends with a hanging. It includes all the racism, misogyny, homeopathy, etc I love. Its as far as I can go as a writer. Its ny BLOOD MERIDIAN.

What about you? You wanna crank out the same thing 1000 times?

 

[Areala-chan]

It includes all the racism, misogyny, homeopathy, etc I love.

Homeopathy? Oh dear god, no...

Racism and misogyny are one thing, but a belief in using acupuncture and Quigong to overcome illness? That's just a bridge too far, Noir! Say it ain't so!

 

[LIVINRFANTASIES]

Denny

My latest is 35,000 words, starts with a mugging and ends with a hanging. It includes all the racism, misogyny, homeopathy, etc I love. Its as far as I can go as a writer. Its ny BLOOD MERIDIAN.

What about you? You wanna crank out the same thing 1000 times?

Sounds like a love story.

 

[ElectricBlue]

What about you? You wanna crank out the same thing 1000 times?

Still cranking. I'll never get close to a thousand, though, not even if they lock me in a cell on a high mountain.

My latest is mixing it up some, but I've got to get the whole damn thing written before I submit Chap 1. That's not like me.

It will either be a spectacular fail, or a failed spectacular - I'm entering into a hubris zone on this one, but hey, I'm game. Those jokers who reckon I'm an ok writer better be right (this set excludes you, Noir, obviously).

If you're going to fly like an eagle, better start flapping, I say; otherwise you're always gonna be a turkey on the ground.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Homeopathy? Oh dear god, no...

Racism and misogyny are one thing, but a belief in using acupuncture and Quigong to overcome illness? That's just a bridge too far, Noir! Say it ain't so!

I typed HOMOPATHY and Laurel changed the spelling with her 2ND GUESSER SPELL CORRECTOR. She does it all the time. Manu musta invented it.

PS I invented HOMOPATHY as a slice worse than HOMOPHOBIC. homophobic is for twisted snowflakes like you.

 

[Areala-chan]

I typed HOMOPATHY and Laurel changed the spelling with her 2ND GUESSER SPELL CORRECTOR. She does it all the time. Manu musta invented it.

PS I invented HOMOPATHY as a slice worse than HOMOPHOBIC. homophobic is for twisted snowflakes like you.

Buddy, if you're afraid of lesbians, it's not me you need to be apologizing to, it's your psychiatrist, your pastor, and god.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Buddy, if you're afraid of lesbians, it's not me you need to be apologizing to, it's your psychiatrist, your pastor, and god.

I live next door to one. Known her 35 years. I call her Psycho Squirrel. She makes me cuss her out. Ty[ica; lesbian, she 4 foot tall and 4 foot wide. Its amazing how many ugly women she knows.

Youll like this. A woman explains why women like to hang out with fags.

"No other kind of man wants to be me; others want part of me, but the gay wants to be me!"

 

[jomar]

I guess I don't get Cormac McCarthy...The Road won a Pulitzer, which I think was a body of work win, like Traing Day was a Denzel Washington academy award win though it's easy to be bad and angry, acting-wise.

But Blood Meridian? Maybe I need to go back and get an English degree so I can see what the critics are seeing...view it from 30,000 feet and realize a sunset means death is coming, a storm means trouble and a loose saddle cinch means other shit.

So, put it out there and we'll check it out. FWIW, other stuff of yours I've read is punchy and gritty and fine as it goes, but at times seems to be trying too hard to be so...kind of like you're trying to be a noir Raymond Carver...which, I suppose, is not a bad aspiration, though his editor certainly was a thing.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

I guess I don't get Cormac McCarthy...The Road won a Pulitzer, which I think was a body of work win, like Traing Day was a Denzel Washington academy award win though it's easy to be bad and angry, acting-wise.

But Blood Meridian? Maybe I need to go back and get an English degree so I can see what the critics are seeing...view it from 30,000 feet and realize a sunset means death is coming, a storm means trouble and a loose saddle cinch means other shit.

So, put it out there and we'll check it out. FWIW, other stuff of yours I've read is punchy and gritty and fine as it goes, but at times seems to be trying too hard to be so...kind of like you're trying to be a noir Raymond Carver...which, I suppose, is not a bad aspiration, though his editor certainly was a thing.

here is my best writing ever,
https://www.literotica.com/s/occurrence-at-palmetto-county

The score is mediocre but it does what I want.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

The term NOTHING BURGER is what I mean. I heard it today. Writers who stay yoo long write NOTHING BURGERS.

 

[jomar]

here is my best writing ever,
https://www.literotica.com/s/occurrence-at-palmetto-county

The score is mediocre but it does what I want.

Nicely done! The sparse style seems to swell some in the middle before contracting again, but maybe that was intentional. Some interesting thoughts expressed.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Nicely done! The sparse style seems to swell some in the middle before contracting again, but maybe that was intentional. Some interesting thoughts expressed.

The story is factual and a blend of 3-4 hangings that occurred in Florida around 1900. The real Abner was 14, the real Carissa was 12. New York papers went nuts for Florida hanging a kid. In those days Florida put its orphans in prisons and brothels. Marriage was legal for children and adults, and I mean young kids. In 1926 we drew a line at 11...no younger. Erskine Caldwell featured young boys and their mature wives in his TOBACCO ROAD novel. Also in it a 12 year old girl runs away to become a hooker rather than marry an old man.

 

[ChloeTzang]

What about you? You wanna crank out the same thing 1000 times?

LOL. Well, I think one of my reader's comments on "Fingerprints" kind of says it all.

You really shine in the first time genre, and as far as I'm concerned, you can keep getting your cherry popped over and over for my reading pleasure.

Love it! I like writing the same types of stories right now, but who knows. I've only been doing this for a year and a half. In time I'm sure I'm going to write something different, but for now, I'm good cranking out the same thing in different variations and working to get better at it with every iteration.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

LOL. Well, I think one of my reader's comments on "Fingerprints" kind of says it all.

You really shine in the first time genre, and as far as I'm concerned, you can keep getting your cherry popped over and over for my reading pleasure.

Love it! I like writing the same types of stories right now, but who knows. I've only been doing this for a year and a half. In time I'm sure I'm going to write something different, but for now, I'm good cranking out the same thing in different variations and working to get better at it with every iteration.

I'm editing NERVOUS NELLY, its 35K words, almost 10 LIT pages. PILETTE will insist its 9 point 3146782 but most of its brief dialog. Its my last story ever, and its much better than the 200 that came first. The dialog is much improved. The trick to good dialog is capturing what characters think and pretending its what they say.

 

[ChloeTzang]

I'm editing NERVOUS NELLY, its 35K words, almost 10 LIT pages. PILETTE will insist its 9 point 3146782 but most of its brief dialog. Its my last story ever, and its much better than the 200 that came first. The dialog is much improved. The trick to good dialog is capturing what characters think and pretending its what they say.

Good dialog is something I've been working at and I need to continue to work at. Capturing that characterization and then using dialog to illustrate each character without making it sound artificial or forced. I keep reading books I like to see how other authors do it and then playing with their style myself to see how to do it. It's a real challenge. That whole Noir style dialog for example. I love trying to write that, it's so different from anything I've tried before.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Good dialog is something I've been working at and I need to continue to work at. Capturing that characterization and then using dialog to illustrate each character without making it sound artificial or forced. I keep reading books I like to see how other authors do it and then playing with their style myself to see how to do it. It's a real challenge. That whole Noir style dialog for example. I love trying to write that, it's so different from anything I've tried before.

Elmore Leonard said George V.Higgins taught him how to write, and Huggins was the master of Noir dialog,

 

[NOIRTRASH]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij8vs8JzFQg

 

[ElectricBlue]

Good dialog is something I've been working at and I need to continue to work at. Capturing that characterization and then using dialog to illustrate each character without making it sound artificial or forced.

I got this comment on one of mine, which indicates at least one reader reckons I write better dialogue than I think I do:

"The characters and the dialogue... 5, and a fave"

The characters were easy: the story was true, but from decades ago, so I must have taken liberties with the dialogue. My memory's not that good. The comment intrigued me though - the story wasn't that heavy on dialogue.