Don't wear leggings on United Airlines!

[adrina]

Did they highlight your cameltoe?

I wasn't exactly conservative in my attire when I was younger. But even I knew that leggings should always be combined with a dress or a Tshirt that passes the pubic area.

12 year old girls. Just yuck. Seriously?

Why are you worried about a 12 year old's potential camel toe? Why would anyone??

 

[rocket_surgery]

From post #9

See relevant passage:



See quote from NY times article from witness:



His shorts clearly should have been reviewed. However not a mention was made of them by UA. Their "discretion" did not kick in for a very clear potential issue with the male's clothing - but it did for the female.

These dress codes always target women and girls because women and girls are sexualized. It's ridiculous and arcane. You say I make assumptions, I say you make the mistake of accepting certain behaviors because they do not inconvenience you.

UA made a mistake. You and anyone that rationalizes it just amplifies that mistake.

If the rule is 3" and the account is that his shorts were 2 or 3" then what's the problem?
You don't get to break rules just because you don't like them. At least not and still get to keep your job.

 

[hashtag46]

Nope.
There's a difference between looking sexy and slutty.

I'd like to believe that I used to dress sexy when I was young: mini skirts, shirts that were a wiff tighter in the bussom area while being looser in all other areas.

But I would never have showcased my cameltoe etc. the way others do.
Imo, that's slutty.

 

[Rightguide]

Did they highlight your cameltoe?

I wasn't exactly conservative in my attire when I was younger. But even I knew that leggings should always be combined with a dress or a Tshirt that passes the pubic area.

A Cameltoe is one thing but a MooseKnuckle is a whole different affront.

 

[hashtag46]

12 year old girls. Just yuck. Seriously?
Why are you worried about a 12 year old's potential camel toe? Why would anyone??

I and you and normal people wouldn't.
But all sorts of people board those flights.

 

[adrina]

If the rule is 3" and the account is that his shorts were 2 or 3" then what's the problem?
You don't get to break rules just because you don't like them. At least not and still get to keep your job.

And there's the justification. They could have been 3 inches. Weren't checked. Weren't mentioned. She just glanced and saw the potential and she's not a trained gate agent.

The fact that you justify the potential 3 inches basically says you don't care as long as it doesn't affect you or other men.

A rule was applied to a woman but it wasn't even thought to be applied to the man even though there was a very clear need to at least check him. But they didn't. And you don't think that they needed to.

He probably was breaking the rules. But we'll never know because the rules weren't applied evenly. And those like you justify it with a shrug.

 

[hashtag46]

A Cameltoe is one thing but a MooseKnuckle is a whole different affront.

You dog.

 

[adrina]

I and you and normal people wouldn't.
But all sorts of people board those flights.

So then we should accept rules that target women and girls and publicly shame them for wearing everyday attire because of a few pervs?

What's next... burkas?

 

[rocket_surgery]

And there's the justification. They could have been 3 inches. Weren't checked. Weren't mentioned. She just glanced and saw the potential and she's not a trained gate agent.

The fact that you justify the potential 3 inches basically says you don't care as long as it doesn't affect you or other men.

A rule was applied to a woman but it wasn't even thought to be applied to the man even though there was a very clear need to at least check him. But they didn't. And you don't think that they needed to.

He probably was breaking the rules. But we'll never know because the rules weren't applied evenly. And those like you justify it with a shrug.

But you don't know any of that because nobody who was actually involved has said anything other than United who stood behind the agent.
How do we know he wasn't checked? Because someone who happen to be walking by saw things happen?
Nobody knows if the rules were applied evenly or not. That's part of the whole problem with this. You are assuming he broke the rules and got away with it but you don't know that. You just want it to be the case.
You assume I don't care because it's not me but you don't know me or what I care about or how I feel about dress codes.
I wasn't there, I know only what has been said in the stories and all of those are by people not involved at all. Unless something else comes out, rules are rules.

 

[Rightguide]

So then we should accept rules that target women and girls and publicly shame them for wearing everyday attire because of a few pervs?

What's next... burkas?

I don't care one way or the other, but the airline has the right to make their own rules. If people don't like their rules let them take another airline.

 

[hashtag46]

So then we should accept rules that target women and girls and publicly shame them for wearing everyday attire because of a few pervs?

What's next... burkas?

Nope.
I'm as -moderately- feminist as they come.

But just like I wouldn't feel comfortable if a guy who was talking to me wore trousers that clung to and highlighted his penis, or a shirt that showed his nipples,
I wouldn't feel comfortable with seeing a cameltoe.

They're sexual organs after all, and those should be considered a private matter. For their own protection too. Why should anyone expose their private life to others thus disempower themselves?

 

[hashtag46]

I don't care one way or the other, but the airline has the right to make their own rules. If people don't like their rules let them take another airline.

I like the way you think.

 

[Parminderjeet]

12 year old girls. Just yuck. Seriously?

Why are you worried about a 12 year old's potential camel toe? Why would anyone??

We all know why but cannot say.

 

[Rightguide]

You dog.

Just a little levity, but you can rest assured an infuriated Moose could pop in at any time.

 

[adrina]

But you don't know any of that because nobody who was actually involved has said anything other than United who stood behind the agent.
How do we know he wasn't checked? Because someone who happen to be walking by saw things happen?
Nobody knows if the rules were applied evenly or not. That's part of the whole problem with this. You are assuming he broke the rules and got away with it but you don't know that. You just want it to be the case.
You assume I don't care because it's not me but you don't know me or what I care about or how I feel about dress codes.
I wasn't there, I know only what has been said in the stories and all of those are by people not involved at all. Unless something else comes out, rules are rules.

You're assuming a lot as well in order to justify it.

If the man had been checked, it would not have been a story. Or it would have been specifically noted you can bet. It's naivete to think it would be otherwise.

I'm kinda impressed by the circles you're going in to rationalize this.

If you don't understand that dress codes specifically target women/girls, are used more against women/girls and are applied more to women/girls then you aren't paying attention.

And yes rules are rules. And sexism is sexism. And sexist rules are sexist rules.

Forced castrationi was once the a rule. Rules are rules right? Not to go extreme, but that's what this sounds like. It is obviously a bad PR move, obviously a bad decision, obviously another sexist dress code story... but we'll ignore it because, rules are rules.

Give me a break.

 

[Rightguide]

I like the way you think.

People would rather bitch than get on with life.

 

[adrina]

Nope.
I'm as -moderately- feminist as they come.

But just like I wouldn't feel comfortable if a guy who was talking to me wore trousers that clung to and highlighted his penis, or a shirt that showed his nipples,
I wouldn't feel comfortable with seeing a cameltoe.

They're sexual organs after all, and those should be considered a private matter. For their own protection too. Why should anyone expose their private life to others thus disempower themselves?

Yes it should have remained private. And now because UA publicly shamed them and applied their rules in a ridiculous and imbalanced fashion - their antiquated rules aimed at women - these children's genitals are being discussed in such a fashion as to worry about a camel toe.

Wow.

 

[adrina]

People would rather bitch than get on with life.

We'd like to live life without being singled out for what we are wearing while men are given a pass.

Wow. What a concept.

 

[Bigspurt]

My 2cts

It's my opinion that leggings or yoga pants are just fine if the wearer also wears a skirt (it can be real short) or shorts or a long loose top over them. Maybe 20% could get away with nothing but why do they want to show off their butt or the other side?

I just don't get it.

 

[hashtag46]

People would rather bitch than get on with life.

You're fun, actually .
(Not meant as in "the sleezy female impersonator or dubious female poster is making a pass at a guy, as the GB retards would say )

Looking forward to reading your posts.

///

 

[Ethical_Slut]

We'd like to live life without being singled out for what we are wearing while men are given a pass.

Wow. What a concept.

You are going in circles with those who love to do just that. If people are too dense to not grasp the concept, ignore them. Or they do grasp the concept but have nothing better to do with their life than go in circles. It's their entertainment.

 

[adrina]

You are going in circles with those who love to do just that. If people are too dense to not grasp the concept, ignore them. Or they do grasp the concept but have nothing better to do with their life than go in circles. It's their entertainment.

Agreed.

Thanks. Sometimes I get my teeth sunk in.

 

[Ethical_Slut]

Agreed.

Thanks. Sometimes I get my teeth sunk in.

I do too, in real life. Here? No, it's not worth it. No matter what you write they will be contrary. I had that idiot lash out at me. I have no idea who he/she is, they have no idea who I am, but to them it is all 'gee, let see how much I can shock'. I didn't even play those games when I was a child.

Whatever.

 

[adrina]

I do too, in real life. Here? No, it's not worth it. No matter what you write they will be contrary. I had that idiot lash out at me. I have no idea who he/she is, they have no idea who I am, but to them it is all 'gee, let see how much I can shock'. I didn't even play those games when I was a child.

Whatever.

Sometimes it is fun to argue though.

Just as long as one keeps perspective.

 

[Rightguide]

Yes it should have remained private. And now because UA publicly shamed them and applied their rules in a ridiculous and imbalanced fashion - their antiquated rules aimed at women - these children's genitals are being discussed in such a fashion as to worry about a camel toe.

Wow.

She put a dress on and continued her flight.