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Trump team ultimatum: No more talks, time to vote

He said it was going to be "cheap" and "everyone would be covered" and get "GREAT care."

And obviously he could do it no problem because Crooked Hillary and Illegitimate Obama

Not cheap

No one covered

CRAP care

Are the coal jobs coming back soon?
 
Phelia said:
To paraphrase Samantha Bee, this is a man who managed to lose money in the casino business. The house always loses, as they say :D
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Isn't there some kind of unwritten rule about throwing stones & glass houses?

The Upper West Side is another place where the “rights” of rich parents are being pitted against the reality of the neighborhood’s demographics. The current battleground is the sought-after P.S. 452 on West 77th Street, a stone’s throw from the Museum of Natural History.

Like so many public schools in New York City, P.S. 452 has a lopsided enrollment, with a population that’s three-quarters white and Asian, with only 13 percent of kids qualifying for free lunch, in a district that’s 43 percent white and Asian and 48 percent low-income, according to a Chalkbeat story on the brewing controversy.

P.S. 452, which opened in 2010 to relieve overcrowding in other nearby sought-after schools, quickly became overcrowded itself. And so the city proposed moving the school, which currently shares a building with two other schools, 16 blocks south, to a site with more space that happens to be just adjacent to large housing projects. In one swoop, the city could solve the school’s capacity problem while improving its diversity.

One P.S. 452 parent speaking out against the move is comedian and former Daily Show correspondent Jason Jones, who’s married to Samantha Bee. "To portray any opposition as classist or racist is as bad as it can get," Jones told WNYC. And elsewhere: "We are not divided,” he said at a public hearing about the proposal, “we are absolutely united in wanting what's best for our children," then encouraged fellow parents not to talk to the press about the controversy.
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/schooled...s_latest_school_integration_battleground.html
 
Ishmael said:
From one perspective I applaud his stance, from another it confirms a fear I've had about him.

As a corporate CEO with controlling interest in the concern he listens to his advisors but in the end he makes the final decision. Yes, he like all corporate CEO's try to build a consensus, but in the end it is a dictatorship. (This is one of the attributes that was manifest in Ross Perot as well.) They are not well attuned to dealing with 'shared' power.

One of the things I don't understand is why he hasn't used his legitimate presidential powers to put pressure on congress. Such as rescinding the EO that managed to exempt congressional staffers from having to participate in "ShuckNJiveCare." My feeling is that when congress has to live with the bill they passed their defense of the enactment might not be so politically motivated. Trump is not a political animal in the conventional sense, so if he's going to piss congress off, piss them ALL off equally.

Ishmael
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I can see the vote failing and him signing that EO rescinding the exemption and telling them to live under it. It would certainly steal the headlines back for him. I wonder if he has the balls?
 
Will Lit Wingnut Nation lose some of their recent swagger and reduce the gloating?
 
Adre said:
Will Lit Wingnut Nation lose some of their recent swagger and reduce the gloating?
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Hopefully they go cannibal and start the infighting and blame games.......again.

Apparently they overturned a bunch of wildlife protections and we can now basically exterminate wildlife to extinction for shits n' giggles.

LMFAO!!! Wait till them hunterz ain't got nuttin' ta hunt!! :D

Hopefully they start a war on fun next and start SWAT teaming Chuck-E-Cheeses nationwide, you know, important shit. :cool:
 
I actually thought that the vote was going to be held. Ah well.

Gridlock: 1 Trump: 0
 
This is a huge blow to both House Republicans and Trump who all ran on repealing Obamacare.

For Trump, it is doubly bad as it blows his reputation as a great negotiator out of the water on the first try.

For House Republicans, they now look like that dog who finally caught the cab and had no idea what to do with it. I will give Ryan credit for acknowledging that Republicans have gone from doing nothing but obstructing for years and now have to govern and they obviously need to get better at it.

I remember someone asking Sean Spicer what the plan B is on healthcare and he said, "there is only Plan A."

This is a nothing but a total embarrassing failure.
 
Wow CNN absolutely F-in HATES Trump.

"The White House has suffered an ignominious defeat, and we cannot help but wonder how damaging this will be to this Presidency."
 
There will be a vote. Pulling the bill preserves it.

They should go Uber-Bannon in the House and let the Senate soften it and then all grudgingly vote for it.
 
Phelia said:
Love reading about Ryan racing to the White House to whine to daddy that no one wants to play with him. These people are a JOKE.

I try to maintain empathy for the people who swallowed the lies and got us here. But it's tough.
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i have no empathy for them

none

it doesn't tug at my heartstrings when they pull out all these people who he will be hurting - cause everyone will say they still support him
 
So I'm confused about how long the ACA has been in its so called "death spiral". Didn't it just pass its 7 year anniversary. Exactly how long has it been "spiraling"?.
 
doowdniw said:
So I'm confused about how long the ACA has been in its so called "death spiral". Didn't it just pass its 7 year anniversary. Exactly how long has it been "spiraling"?.
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Ask someone whose deductible has climbed to $12,000.00.

Barry promised lower premiums and deductibles. How did that work out?
 
water505 said:
Ask someone whose deductible has climbed to $12,000.00.

Barry promised lower premiums and deductibles. How did that work out?
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Are you one of those people? Can you name one? Can you answer the question?

And then there is the question, is it better to have a high deductible, or no insurance at all?
 
doowdniw said:
Are you one of those people? Can you name one? Can you answer the question?

And then there is the question, is it better to have a high deductible, or no insurance at all?
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It's better to have insurance you don't have to mortgage the house to use. if you have a deductible that's too high to afford, what good is your insurance?
 
Obamacare deductibles are on the rise for 2017, along with monthly premiums

Those cheap Obamacare plans are getting even more expensive.

Deductibles for individuals enrolled in the lowest-priced Obamacare health plans will average more than $6,000 in 2017, the first time that threshold has been cracked in the three years that Affordable Care Act marketplaces have been in business, a new analysis finds.

Families enrolled in bronze plans will have average deductibles of $12,393, according to the study by the consumer insurance comparison site HealthPocket.
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http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/26/obam...ise-for-2017-along-with-monthly-premiums.html
 
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