The dramatic spike in hate crimes

[RUlookingup]

Any arrests yet??? Or more fake news???

 

[Boxlicker101]

Any arrests yet??? Or more fake news???

Current hate crimes are usually a response to hate crimes committed by others. I'm not going to do anything but, if I were to go out committing hate crimes against Muslims, it would be a reaction to all the hate crimes being committed or attempted by Muslims, in the US and Europe.

 

[srgreene]

Current hate crimes are usually a response to hate crimes committed by others.

A lot of the "hate crimes" against Moslems, at least in the USA, are committed by Moslems attempting to convey an atmosphere of "islamophobia". Mainstream media feeds that narrative of islamophobia with generous coverage, but is very sparing about noting that much of it is committed by Moslems. Honor killings- in the USA even- by Moslem men against their daughters (sanctioned in the Koran) or wives somehow don't seem to make it into the "hate crime" category. It's nuts!

 

[Boxlicker101]

A lot of the "hate crimes" against Moslems, at least in the USA, are committed by Moslems attempting to convey an atmosphere of "islamophobia". Mainstream media feeds that narrative of islamophobia with generous coverage, but is very sparing about noting that much of it is committed by Moslems. Honor killings- in the USA even- by Moslem men against their daughters (sanctioned in the Koran) or wives somehow don't seem to make it into the "hate crime" category. It's nuts!

Straight, white, Christian males get accused of hate crimes without doing much. Most others get a pass, relatively speaking.

 

[RUlookingup]

All I've heard is the narrative equating Trump with hate crimes, but it seems only his supporters are the ones actually being attacked. Any thoughts from the left? Will arrests ever be made? I think Rachel Maddow will lose her "deep thoughts frown" first.

 

[Boxlicker101]

All I've heard is the narrative equating Trump with hate crimes, but it seems only his supporters are the ones actually being attacked. Any thoughts from the left? Will arrests ever be made? I think Rachel Maddow will lose her "deep thoughts frown" first.

I have been saying the same thing all along. Most of the "hate crimes" associated with the POTUS are attacks on his supporters by leftists. Occasionally, a Trump supporter will get into a fist fight with somebody, but we don't usually know just what led up to the confrontation. Leftists, by contrast, are violent and destructive and violate Constitutional rights with impunity. Not all leftists, and probably not even most, but a large number of them.

 

[sr71plt]

but it seems only his supporters are the ones actually being attacked.

Your "it seems" is so laughingly out of whack as not to justify further comment. Wallow in your chosen idiocy as you like.

 

[RUlookingup]

The unaffected one rears his head! It lives!

 

[sr71plt]

It's fun to see that one of your longstanding nonsense threads has been shipped off to the GB.

 

[dan_c00000]

Current hate crimes are usually a response to hate crimes committed by others..

A lot of the "hate crimes" against Moslems, at least in the USA, are committed by Moslems

I'd LOVE to see your proof of this.

 

[RUlookingup]

It's fun to see that one of your longstanding nonsense threads has been shipped off to the GB.

Don't worry, it doesn't have anything.to do with you. Back to your bubble.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Originally Posted by Boxlicker101:

Current hate crimes are usually a response to hate crimes committed by others.

I'd LOVE to see your proof of this.

This was my opinion, and I can't prove it, but it is logical. Until the 1990's, most Americans would never have thought of committing a hate crime against Muslims. However, after 9-11 bombings in New York and similar hate crimes committed by Muslims, many Americans have retaliated.

Remember, a hate crime is, first and foremost, a crime, and not just an exercise of First Amendment rights.

 

[phrodeau]

Originally Posted by Boxlicker101:

Current hate crimes are usually a response to hate crimes committed by others.



This was my opinion, and I can't prove it, but it is logical. Until the 1990's, most Americans would never have thought of committing a hate crime against Muslims. However, after 9-11 bombings in New York and similar hate crimes committed by Muslims, many Americans have retaliated.

Remember, a hate crime is, first and foremost, a crime, and not just an exercise of First Amendment rights.

I guess you didn't hear about the crimes against Muslims in 1979 after the Iran hostage crisis, or in 1985 after TWA 847 and Achille Lauro. When the Murrah building was bombed in Oklahoma City (also 1985), many thought Muslims were to blame.

In Oklahoma City, a Muslim woman who was seven months pregnant suffered a miscarriage after a brick thrown through her window traumatized her the morning after the bombing. At a Muslim day care center in Texas, a teacher and sixty young students were frightened when a passing driver shouted to the teacher, "Here's a bomb for you lady," and then threw a bag of soda cans at her. In New York City, callers threatened to bomb Arab-owned business and attack the families of the owners. In Richardson, Texas, a mosque received ten threatening phone calls. Just one day after the bombing, as reports of backlash attacks began to surface, President Bill Clinton called on Americans not to rush to any judgments or blame any religion for the attack.

https://www.hrw.org/reports/2002/usahate/usa1102-03.htm

 

[sr71plt]

Don't worry, it doesn't have anything.to do with you. Back to your bubble.

I agree it's not about me. It's about an official response here that your threads are inane.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I guess you didn't hear about the crimes against Muslims in 1979 after the Iran hostage crisis, or in 1985 after TWA 847 and Achille Lauro. When the Murrah building was bombed in Oklahoma City (also 1985), many thought Muslims were to blame.

https://www.hrw.org/reports/2002/usahate/usa1102-03.htm

It's nice to know you agree with me that the hate crimes committed against Muslims were a response to the hate crimes committed by other Muslims, in Iran and other places in the world.

 

[phrodeau]

It's nice to know you agree with me that the hate crimes committed against Muslims were a response to the hate crimes committed by other Muslims, in Iran and other places in the world.

McVeigh wasn't Muslim.

And I got the year wrong. It was 1995, so you're free to say that it was done by Muslims, I guess.

 

[Boxlicker101]

McVeigh wasn't Muslim.

And I got the year wrong. It was 1995, so you're free to say that it was done by Muslims, I guess.

BFD. Muslims aren't the only persons who commit hate crimes, nor are they the only persons against whom such crimes are committed.

 

[dan_c00000]

This was my opinion, and I can't prove it

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/2894418/picard-facepalm-o.gif

 

[Boxlicker101]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/2894418/picard-facepalm-o.gif

No response because you are quoting me out of context.