So how is that "repeal and replace" thing working out?

[water505]

So far it looks like government trying to fix the solution to a problem which they themselves fucked up to begin with.

Got it?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

No.



But I've got milk. I saw a good blog post earlier this morning that puts it all into perspective:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/03/obamacare_civil_war_conservatives_vs_the_old_guard.html

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Wrong again.

The GOP needed to have been doing their jobs for the last 8 years instead of being the 'party of no'. It is the RED states that did not expand medicare, the refusal to pass corrective legislation and lying to the public that has this so messy. The ACA is not is a death spiral it is the Congress.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Who the hell are you talking to?

 

[water505]

Wrong again.

The GOP needed to have been doing their jobs for the last 8 years instead of being the 'party of no'. It is the RED states that did not expand medicare, the refusal to pass corrective legislation and lying to the public that has this so messy. The ACA is not is a death spiral it is the Congress.

Now there's a well reasoned post!

It's the states' and the Republicans' fault Obamacare is a disaster!

Christ on a bike, dude.

 

[water505]

Who the hell are you talking to?

Spidey.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I worded that wrong. I should have asked, Who are you talking at?

 

[Disgustipated]

Spidey.

Dafuq up, miles.

 

[EternalFantasies]

And he speaks with certitude too

 

[water505]

I worded that wrong. I should have asked, Who are you talking at?

Never end a sentence with a prescription. Learn yourself good grammer.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

And he speaks with certitude too

Roland the roadie love Gertrude the groupie,
But Gertrude the groupie loves groups!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Never end a sentence with a prescription. Learn yourself good grammer.

*chuckle*

This just proves that I am qualified to teach because I am a minority...

 

[Rightguide]

Wrong again.

The GOP needed to have been doing their jobs for the last 8 years instead of being the 'party of no'. It is the RED states that did not expand medicare, the refusal to pass corrective legislation and lying to the public that has this so messy. The ACA is not is a death spiral it is the Congress.

Wrong. It's all your fault for supporting Obama in the first place.

 

[EternalFantasies]

Roland the roadie love Gertrude the groupie,
But Gertrude the groupie loves groups!

I dislike it when someone mocks me asking for my opinion and when I give it then run.

That's a stray street cat, always walking with tail covering its ass.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

And we slink like alley cats,
Tearing down what we attack,
To prove that we are one [/won].

 

[Disgustipated]

Wrong. It's all your fault for supporting Obama in the first place.

That's your excuse for an even worse healthcare plan that took the Repubs 8+ years to concoct?

Pubs in 2010: Obamacare is terrible!
Pubs in 2017: Here's something even worse than Obamacare! So there!

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Now there's a well reasoned post!

It's the states' and the Republicans' fault Obamacare is a disaster!

Christ on a bike, dude.

It is blatantly obvious that seven years of opposition by refusing to perfect the law, taking the law to the Supreme Court and gutting a key provision, and nine years of misleading rhetoric at best and complete outright lies to the public in many cases have destabilized the program.

Have you noticed that reasonable Republicans, like Kasich, are defending medicaid expansion and talking about how to create correcting and perfecting legislation that get more people better care rather than just spouting bumper sticker sized solutions?

 

[Rightguide]

That's your excuse for an even worse healthcare plan that took the Repubs 8+ years to concoct?

Pubs in 2010: Obamacare is terrible!
Pubs in 2017: Here's something even worse than Obamacare! So there!

Excuse for what? At this stage, it's just a proposal that isn't going to become law unless it's amended. Real solutions to Obamacare are not possible as long as the 60 vote threshold is in place. Democrats are not going to let Obamacare go down, nor are they going to help Trump or the Republicans succeed when it makes them look bad. The only solution is to come up with a real conservative proposal and slap the nuclear option on the table in the Senate and take the Democrats out of the picture.

 

[Rightguide]

It is blatantly obvious that seven years of opposition by refusing to perfect the law, taking the law to the Supreme Court and gutting a key provision, and nine years of misleading rhetoric at best and complete outright lies to the public in many cases have destabilized the program.

Have you noticed that reasonable Republicans, like Kasich, are defending medicaid expansion and talking about how to create correcting and perfecting legislation that get more people better care rather than just spouting bumper sticker sized solutions?

The Republicans put two proposals on Obama's desk and he vetoed them. This is on the Democrats, they put this over on America and spent 8 years lying about it. They are the most destructive force in America today.

 

[Disgustipated]

Excuse for what? At this stage, it's just a proposal that isn't going to become law unless it's amended. Real solutions to Obamacare are not possible as long as the 60 vote threshold is in place. Democrats are not going to let Obamacare go down, nor are they going to help Trump or the Republicans succeed when it makes them look bad. The only solution is to come up with a real conservative proposal and slap the nuclear option on the table in the Senate and take the Democrats out of the picture.

Do you blame your wife for your failed marriage?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You really should read the link I posted and inform yourself a little better rather than repeating everything you've been saying since 2010 in wake of the shock of the reaction of the American People to the dictatorial nature of a one-party bill.

What you are really implying is that Republicans should have taken in the minority party, listened to them (unlike 2008 when they were being told don't ask to get into the car, don't tell us how to hold the mop, we won, elections have consequences) and then done exactly what they were told to do because that is the only way that President Obama wasn't going to veto any bill coming out of a Republican Congress.

All Democrats did back then was whine about Republicans instead of talking to the people and selling their (nonexistent) package of changes and improvements and they're doing the same fucking thing now, whining while offering no solutions.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Excuse for what? At this stage, it's just a proposal that isn't going to become law unless it's amended. Real solutions to Obamacare are not possible as long as the 60 vote threshold is in place. Democrats are not going to let Obamacare go down, nor are they going to help Trump or the Republicans succeed when it makes them look bad. The only solution is to come up with a real conservative proposal and slap the nuclear option on the table in the Senate and take the Democrats out of the picture.

The Republicans put two proposals on Obama's desk and he vetoed them. This is on the Democrats, they put this over on America and spent 8 years lying about it. They are the most destructive force in America today.

And they are going to do whatever it takes to make sure there are no changes and they do not give a shit about who gets hurt by their obstruction and inaction because they are still pissed that they lost the White House which they were telling themselves was going to be theirs in perpetuity.

 

[Disgustipated]

You really should read the link I posted and inform yourself a little better rather than repeating everything you've been saying since 2010 in wake of the shock of the reaction of the American People to the dictatorial nature of a one-party bill.

What you are really implying is that Republicans should have taken in the minority party, listened to them (unlike 2008 when they were being told don't ask to get into the car, don't tell us how to hold the mop, we won, elections have consequences) and then done exactly what they were told to do because that is the only way that President Obama wasn't going to veto any bill coming out of a Republican Congress.

All Democrats did back then was whine about Republicans instead of talking to the people and selling their (nonexistent) package of changes and improvements and they're doing the same fucking thing now, whining while offering no solutions.

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?p=84365826#post84365826

 

[JohnnySavage]

There will never be a conservative plan because there are no Conservatives in Congress.

 

[Disgustipated]

And they are going to do whatever it takes to make sure there are no changes and they do not give a shit about who gets hurt by their obstruction and inaction because they are still pissed that they lost the White House which they were telling themselves was going to be theirs in perpetuity.

Old people (you) and poor people (most of your friends) will be hurt by the financial bill.

But then again, you fucking dolts voted for #45.