An offer Planned Parenthood can't refuse

[BoyNextDoor]

PP should just do the same shit that corporate America does - create a shell company and outsource abortion services to them. Problem solved.

Or, they could just partner with an entity that offers abortion services. Like when you see a Kentucky Fried and Taco Bell under the same rof: Problem solved.

Seems like there are a lot of options.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

WaPo fact checks:

Do you think % of services drive a company or % of revenue?

 

[KingOrfeo]

Or, they could just partner with an entity that offers abortion services. Like when you see a Kentucky Fried and Taco Bell under the same rof: Problem solved.

"KFC Restaurant & Dr. Scrapemm's Women's Health Clinic."

 

[KingOrfeo]

Do you think % of services drive a company or % of revenue?

Revenue. But PP is nonprofit and does nothing to make money. To the extent it does off abortions, that means more revenue is available to fund contraceptives, etc., which is a good thing, isn't it?

 

[phrodeau]

PP should just do the same shit that corporate America does - create a shell company and outsource abortion services to them. Problem solved.

Or, they could just partner with an entity that offers abortion services. Like when you see a Kentucky Fried and Taco Bell under the same rof: Problem solved.

Seems like there are a lot of options.

Yes, some for-profit company that won't shy away from selling baby parts. Great idea.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Yes, some for-profit company that won't shy away from selling baby parts. Great idea.

Sshhh! Don't jinx it! I wants me some baby parts!

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Isn't removing the federal government from PP doing just that?

Trump isn't proposing that.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

Revenue. But PP is nonprofit and does nothing to make money. To the extent it does off abortions, that means more revenue is available to fund contraceptives, etc., which is a good thing, isn't it?

Million dollars salaries, millions in political donations, Millions on political consultants...

They are soooooo philanthropical

 

[lovecraft68]

.......

Someone should take that bat to your chicken shit face.

 

[Christobal]

Well, lack of abortion doctors would be one thing. I dunno what the supply is, but from what I've heard the PP is the only option in many places.

Going back to the economic model. If there was enough demand for abortions some doctors could become rich providing this service. The general economy thrives on filling a need that is not met. Many doctors don't want to do abortions. So there is a niche market for doctors that do abortions and they could do well.

You might say how could patients travel. I have been in medical situation with family and myself where I was told we can't treat that here you have to go there.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Million dollars salaries, millions in political donations, Millions on political consultants...

They are soooooo philanthropical

I very much doubt PP pays anyone a seven-figure salary, and political donations and consultants are regrettably necessary expenditure to protect its philanthropy.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I very much doubt PP pays anyone a seven-figure salary, and political donations and consultants are regrettably necessary expenditure to protect its philanthropy.

Protect it's welfare.

It's only philanthropy if it's voluntary....forcing money from the taxpayers isn't voluntary.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Protect it's welfare.

It's only philanthropy if it's voluntary....forcing money from the taxpayers isn't voluntary.

Accepting money from the government does not make a philanthropic organization anything else.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Accepting money from the government does not make a philanthropic organization anything else.

If it's tossing out tax money it's welfare, not philanthropy or charity.

Philanthropy and charity is voluntary.

Money freely given by those who can afford it to the causes they want to support.




Unlike welfare which is collected by force from the taxpayer, disproportionately from the working and shrinking middle class.

The difference is force vs. consent....calling or equating welfare to charity or philanthropy is like calling rape, surprise sex or marital rights, that is to say it's total fuckin' bullshit.

 

[hashtag46]

No, I absolutely wouldn't agree.

This is just a ploy to make abortion less available without changing the law.

It will do nothing to decrease abortions and will only lead to an increase in deaths of women as the few options in red states disappear.

Republicans are against free contraception, which would reduce rates and against the type of assistance that poor single mothers would need.

This makes sense to me. But I also kept asking myself a few other things:


1.I wonder whether there was also some "PR move" so to speak somewhere in the mix.

Because I suspect that he knew right from the start that the chances of PP accepting his proposal would have been slim, so no budget money lost.
And if they accepted, that would have at least meant that he would have had abided by one of his principles which is to thwart abortions.

Either way, I feel that it's a win win situation for him because his public image improved after this. One can no longer accuse him of being a racist, when he's proposing to fund healthcare facilities which are placed mainly in minority neighborhoods, and when he's also trying to stop abortions among minority groups.


2.Does federal funding come with other strings attached (besides the abortion issue)? Like dictating where to place the outreach clinics, or how they want the funding distributed etc.
Which might justify even more PP's decision?

Republicans are against free contraception

Is it true or just one of those GB libs. flippant villifying comments?
Because it doesn't make sense that one would advocate against abortion while sabotaging preventive measures.

 

[KingOrfeo]

One can no longer accuse him of being a racist . . .

Of course one can.

Is it true or just one of those GB libs. flippant villifying comments?

It's true.

Because it doesn't make sense that one would advocate against abortion while sabotahing preventive measures.

No, it doesn't.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

I very much doubt PP pays anyone a seven-figure salary, and political donations and consultants are regrettably necessary expenditure to protect its philanthropy.

Well if you don't believe it then look it up.

I'm not just pro choice, I'm pro abortion. Hell, I wish a lot of people here had mothers that went down that road.

PP gives a shit about women. Period. ( no that's not a pun)

 

[BotanyBoy]

This is just a ploy to make abortion less available without changing the law.

How? By making people pay for their own?

LMFAO!!

Republicans are against free contraception,

No they support abstinence.....

which would reduce rates and against the type of assistance that poor single mothers would need.

Yes, it would.

So would not getting pregnant in the first place. It's not hard.

 

[KingOrfeo]

How? By making people pay for their own?

Wouldn't that make it less available?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Wouldn't that make it less available?

No it makes it less affordable.

They aren't the same thing.

 

[hashtag46]

In a simple business model if someone offered me full funding if I would stop doing the 2% of the things they don't like I would most likely take it. The protesters would go away and I could provide a comfortable place that people could come to get necessary service. I don't see anything that would stop PP from referring patients to abortion doctors.

This makes sense too.


And if they fear "what if" in the future Trump might go on and try to make abortion even more off limits (by whatever legal means)

Wouldn't PP's contract (re federal funding) be on an annual basis so not indefinitely binding?

 

[VaticanAssassin]

Someone should take that bat to your chicken shit face.

Probably. If you find someone man enough to try let me know

 

[zipman]

How? By making people pay for their own?

LMFAO!!

No they support abstinence.....

Yes, it would.

So would not getting pregnant in the first place. It's not hard.

Typical stupidity from you.

No federal funds pay for abortions at Planned Parenthood you moron. Perhaps you should read up on the Hyde amendment.

And republicans are against free contraception because they believe in the same nonsense that you do, abstinence. If you republicans really gave a shit about decreasing abortions, you would provide contraception free of charge.

 

[KingOrfeo]

No it makes it less affordable.

They aren't the same thing.

Yes, they are. Any economist will tell you so.

 

[zipman]

This makes sense to me. But I also kept asking myself a few other things:


1.I wonder whether there was also some "PR move" so to speak somewhere in the mix.

Because I suspect that he knew right from the start that the chances of PP accepting his proposal would have been slim, so no budget money lost.
And if they accepted, that would have at least meant that he would have had abided by one of his principles which is to thwart abortions.

Either way, I feel that it's a win win situation for him because his public image improved after this. One can no longer accuse him of being a racist, when he's proposing to fund healthcare facilities which are placed mainly in minority neighborhoods, and when he's also trying to stop abortions among minority groups.


2.Does federal funding come with other strings attached (besides the abortion issue)? Like dictating where to place the outreach clinics, or how they want the funding distributed etc.
Which might justify even more PP's decision?



Is it true or just one of those GB libs. flippant villifying comments?
Because it doesn't make sense that one would advocate against abortion while sabotaging preventive measures.

1) In some states, Planned Parenthood is the only place to get an abortion. Republicans keep trying to pass laws and make it harder to get them for women in need. Many of those like the law in Texas have been deemed unconstitutional

2) No, republicans are against free contraception as BotanyBitch stated below. They recently voted to have it removed from Health Coverage http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/01/the-senate-just-voted-to-roll-back-womens-healthcare.html

Perhaps you would be better using the internet to look things up instead of basing your opinions on the views on whether or not someone was nice to you.

Just saying'