The Rebellion Boils!

[JackLuis]

DemEnter Cannot Succeed Without A Willingness To Let Bad Democrats Lose To Republicans

There’s a tasty Paste Magazine article making the rounds today titled “Party Unity is Now Impossible: Democrats Need a Hostile Takeover,” written by the delightful Walker Bragman. As someone who supports a multi-pronged approach to the progressive revolution, I fully agree with the titular premise of the article. Provided that we are dead serious about the “hostile” part.

It is now abundantly clear that the ruling elites of the Democratic party have learned exactly zero lessons from their spectacular failures in 2016, to the point where even saying anything to them about those failures is met with a barrage of “Hillary won the popular vote” gibberish. They will not change. At all. We’re all clear on that, right? The DNC didn’t actively sabotage the only progressive in the primary race, refuse to accept a very generous offer of a compromise candidate in Keith Ellison for DNC Chair, and then vote down the reinstitution of a ban on corporate lobbying while throwing out a nonstop deluge of Trump and Putin red herrings only to turn around and start earnestly advancing a progressive agenda. This will not happen. The only way that party is changing is if we rip the career politicians who are currently in it off of the plutocratic teets upon which they are suckling, thrown them out the window, and replace them with real human beings.

Will the "Progressives", who want to end this Neo-Liberal-Corporatism hold on the power in this country succeed by ignoring the dismal dipshits the DNC puts forth?

Lets face it, the information age has over taken the political agility of the actors in the political theater. Better plots might help too! The screenwriting sucks!

 

[JackLuis]

Impeach Paul Ryan

Paul Ryan has conflicting interest, he has purchased 4 different properties that he has put in his wife's name. Paul Ryan has laid out the plans for oil drilling, the properties are being leased to Exxon Oil. This is the very company he plans to give the hard earned money the American people have paid into for social safety nets for our future and for our fellow Americans in need. Paul Ryan has a history of abusing his power, he clearly does not have the interest of the American People, he must be impeached.

Sign the petition if you like.

 

[JackLuis]

Corporations Are Not People, Money is Not Free Speech

U.S. Rep. Rick Nolan(MN-08)

Jan 31, 2017

[WASHINGTON D.C.]Press Release U.S. Rep. Rick Nolan, joined by the Move to Amend coalition and a bipartisan group of his colleagues including Republican Congressman Walter Jones, has introduced bipartisan legislation (H.J.Res.48) as the original chief sponsor calling for a constitutional amendment to overturn the U.S. Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United decision. The Citizens United decision granted corporations and other legal entities the right of free speech under the First Amendment and opened federal election campaigns to the free flow of billions of unrestricted and unreported dollars.

“It’s time to establish once and for all that corporations are not people, money is not free speech, and our elections and public policy-making process are not for sale to the highest corporate bidders. It’s time to take the molding and shaping of public policy out of corporate boardrooms, away from corporate lobbyists, and give it back to the American people. We must divert Congress’s focus away from the corporate interests of millionaires and billionaires and return it back to creating good-paying jobs and rebuilding our middle class.”

It’s time to take the molding and shaping of public policy out of corporate boardrooms, away from corporate lobbyists, and give it back to the American people. We must divert Congress’s focus away from the corporate interests of millionaires and billionaires and return it back to creating good-paying jobs and rebuilding our middle class.”

 

[ChloeTzang]

Welcome to the light, comrade.....

DemEnter Cannot Succeed Without A Willingness To Let Bad Democrats Lose To Republicans



Will the "Progressives", who want to end this Neo-Liberal-Corporatism hold on the power in this country succeed by ignoring the dismal dipshits the DNC puts forth?

Lets face it, the information age has over taken the political agility of the actors in the political theater. Better plots might help too! The screenwriting sucks!

 

[sr71plt]

DemEnter Cannot Succeed Without A Willingness To Let Bad Democrats Lose To Republicans



Will the "Progressives", who want to end this Neo-Liberal-Corporatism hold on the power in this country succeed by ignoring the dismal dipshits the DNC puts forth?

Lets face it, the information age has over taken the political agility of the actors in the political theater. Better plots might help too! The screenwriting sucks!

It would help if the progressive Democrats taking over this party at least started off as registered Democrats who had done a damn thing for the Democratic Party before trying to take it over.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It would help if the progressive Democrats taking over this party at least started off as registered Democrats who had done a damn thing for the Democratic Party before trying to take it over.

Actually it would help if the voters quit electing the same fucking scum bags in office year after year because (D) in front of their name.

Start holding your leadership accountable instead of sucking it off because party 1st and above all else....partisanship isn't the cure it's the problem.

 

[JackLuis]

It would help if the progressive Democrats taking over this party at least started off as registered Democrats who had done a damn thing for the Democratic Party before trying to take it over.

If the Damned Party had done anything to support the base that they actually count on to vote there would be more registered Democrats. If the Democrats hadn't gutted the Heartland with NAFTA, there would be more support for their agenda. If the Democrats had prosecuted Bush and Cheney as war criminals, there would be fewer widows and orphans. If the Democrats had not bombed Libya and Syria in "Regime Change" operations there would be fewer refugees.

Don't blame the people for the lack of support of the Neo-Lib Demoncrats, blame the Demoncrats of the DNC for losing the support of the people.

 

[phrodeau]

Congress just needs to run out the budget and shut down the government, so that Trump gets stuck in Mar-a-Lago and out of the White House, running up a bill he won't be reimbursed for.

 

[sr71plt]

If the Damned Party had done anything to support the base that they actually count on to vote there would be more registered Democrats. If the Democrats hadn't gutted the Heartland with NAFTA, there would be more support for their agenda. If the Democrats had prosecuted Bush and Cheney as war criminals, there would be fewer widows and orphans. If the Democrats had not bombed Libya and Syria in "Regime Change" operations there would be fewer refugees.

Don't blame the people for the lack of support of the Neo-Lib Demoncrats, blame the Demoncrats of the DNC for losing the support of the people.

I thought you were talking about people to take leadership in the Democratic Party. Silly me to expect them to be IN the party before grabbing for the leadership of it.

And I happen to think that the party had shit down to it more than it did to itself. The word Swiftboating comes to my mind.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And I happen to think that the party had shit down to it more than it did to itself. The word Swiftboating comes to my mind.

Oh it yea it's swiftboating....couldn't POSSIBLY have anything to do with their shit bag behavior nooooooo.


You're the biggest fuckin' tool since Vetteman....

 

[Maidboy]

Actually it would help if the voters quit electing the same fucking scum bags in office year after year because (D) in front of their name.

LOL They have (D) after their name! At ease Drill Sergeant Pee-Pee!

 

[JackLuis]

I thought you were talking about people to take leadership in the Democratic Party. Silly me to expect them to be IN the party before grabbing for the leadership of it.

And I happen to think that the party had shit down to it more than it did to itself. The word Swiftboating comes to my mind.

Yes the Rethug's Swiftboated Hillary, as expected, but why Hilary lost was because the "Independent Democratic Base" didn't like her Neo-Lib ignoring the common folk, "you know morons." The Demonrats have only themselves to blame for losing to an Orangatang in jackboots.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I thought you were talking about people to take leadership in the Democratic Party. Silly me to expect them to be IN the party before grabbing for the leadership of it.

And I happen to think that the party had shit down to it more than it did to itself. The word Swiftboating comes to my mind.

Candidates always tell lies about their opponents. It's called either mud-slinging or campaigning, depending on whom you support.

 

[sr71plt]

Yes the Rethug's Swiftboated Hillary, as expected, but why Hilary lost was because the "Independent Democratic Base" didn't like her Neo-Lib ignoring the common folk, "you know morons." The Demonrats have only themselves to blame for losing to an Orangatang in jackboots.

The independent Democratic base wasn't in the party. They were only there for Bernie. They and Bernie (like Trump with the Republicans) were just trying to steal a party. They deserted when Bernie didn't manage to steal the party. They should start their own party and you should probably stop saying this has much to do with the Democratic Party at all. Now maybe Elizabeth Warren or someone similar to her, who is actually a Democrat, might manage to do something with a more liberal aspect of the party.

And, no, the Democrats didn't lose the election by what they did. They were sandbagged by a foreign government and a lying and hate mongering codefendent.

 

[sr71plt]

Candidates always tell lies about their opponents.

That's such a convenient nasty lie. There are lots of honest people in government service who don't lie about their opponents. You are a stupid tool of manipulators.

 

[Boxlicker101]

That's such a convenient nasty lie. There are lots of honest people in government service who don't lie about their opponents. You are a stupid tool of manipulators.

I'm not referring to civil servants; I'm referring to candidates for office and their surrogates. A good example is the minion of Hillary who told everybody Obama was not a US born citizen.

 

[JackLuis]

The independent Democratic base wasn't in the party. They were only there for Bernie. They and Bernie (like Trump with the Republicans) were just trying to steal a party. They deserted when Bernie didn't manage to steal the party. They should start their own party and you should probably stop saying this has much to do with the Democratic Party at all. Now maybe Elizabeth Warren or someone similar to her, who is actually a Democrat, might manage to do something with a more liberal aspect of the party.

And, no, the Democrats didn't lose the election by what they did. They were sandbagged by a foreign government and a lying and hate mongering codefendent.

Keep telling yourself that the DNC was not to blame, keep doing the same things and the Democrats will lose what little power they still have. The DNC didn't help the Senate much this last election, and they had a chance to control the Supreme Court nomination, but they spent so much on Hillary that they lost the SC for at least 20 years! They let Hillary suck up the donations and let the rest of the slate starved of funds. How much would it have cost to win two or three more Senate seats? ~$50 Million?

Explain to me how a Trumpanzy could possible win against a rational blue collar FDR/EDR Democratic candidate? Given the economic state of the working classes and the lack of public spending to rebuild and maintain our infrastructure tell me that a Neo-Lib/DNC song of "more of the the same plus a couple of Wars" is going to light a fire under the blue collar majority to vote for Princess Hillary.

Terry Pratchet had a phrase, "and then it all went pear shaped!" Well Hillary was "pear shaped in pantsuits." The election proved that you can't fool enough people, who you have fucked over for 25 years, to vote for pear shaped, particularly when the stem end is on the bottom 80% and the fat end is in the 10% stratosphere.

And spare me the Russia, Russia hysteria, the amount of Russian meddling was minor and more jesting with us, if the Russians were serious about fucking with us there would be a paper trail of Obama's fingerprints on the bugs. And who's to say that they aren't just laughing their asses off at Trump. They let a few hackers loose and disrupt our government for months for maybe $100 grand, while they deal with the Syrian Insurrection. Now that's "Diplomacy by Other Means."

 

[Maidboy]

I'm not referring to civil servants; I'm referring to candidates for office and their surrogates. A good example is the minion of Hillary who told everybody Obama was not a US born citizen.

Candidate Hillary disavowed the low level campaign volunteer's stupidity long before Trump & the Teabaggers made it a thing. Enough of this "all politicians lie so Trump is no worse" bullshit false equivalency.

 

[phrodeau]

Let's all blame Hillary for Donald Trump. Look at what we had to do to ourselves because of her.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Candidate Hillary disavowed the low level campaign volunteer's stupidity long before Trump & the Teabaggers made it a thing. Enough of this "all politicians lie so Trump is no worse" bullshit false equivalency.

Hillary may not have personally spread the lie, but her supporters did. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ow-began-with-Hillary-Clinton-supporters.html

And that was long before Trump even became a candidate.

ETA: Of course, Hillary was well known as a notorious liar long before that.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Let's all blame Hillary for Donald Trump. Look at what we had to do to ourselves because of her.

I'm inclined to agree with you. If Hillary hadn't run for POTUS, the Dems would have nominated somebody else, who likely would have beaten Trump.

 

[sr71plt]

Keep telling yourself that the DNC was not to blame, keep doing the same things and the Democrats will lose what little power they still have.

I'm well aware that you think that just anyone should be able to trot into the DNC without being a Democrat or having done anything at all for the DNC or its candidates for other offices and just have them bow down and work their asses off to elect as president someone with no track record of accomplishment in the job he already had and who is weighted down with all sorts of other personal negatives. Just because you like him.

 

[JackLuis]

I'm well aware that you think that just anyone should be able to trot into the DNC without being a Democrat or having done anything at all for the DNC or its candidates for other offices and just have them bow down and work their asses off to elect as president someone with no track record of accomplishment in the job he already had and who is weighted down with all sorts of other personal negatives. Just because you like him.

It is not about what I like, it is about having competent candidates. Candidates who support the basic principles of the Party through their own convictions. "True Believers" such as the Trumpinistas are useful idiots, but a political party without a Long Game, is just a way for the pundents and consulting demographic aids, to stay employed. As long as the DNC is focused only on the next election and not a five or ten year plan, the DNC serves no useful purpose as a party. It becomes a beltway clusterfuck such as we see today.

 

[Maidboy]

Hillary may not have personally spread the lie, but her supporters did. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ow-began-with-Hillary-Clinton-supporters.html

And that was long before Trump even became a candidate.

What part of "Hillary disavowed it" don't you understand? Or do you just ignore that inconvenient truth so you can continue lying to yourself? Yes, Trump perpetuated the birther lie long before he became a candidate and the Teabagger bigots lapped it up like kittens at a bowl of milk. Then he laughingly claimed to putting an end to it during the campaign. And you can do your own goddamn Google search for readily available sources. Even you should be able to figure out how to do that.

 

[JackLuis]

You’ll never think about mass media the same way again after watching this Noam Chomsky documentary

Nearly 30 years before President Trump’s press gaggle last Friday, Noam Chomsky and Edward Herman authored ‘”Manufacturing Consent“, a book that radically redefined mass media’s relationship with the state.

Now, in the age of fake news and alt facts, Democracy Now! co-founder Amy Goodman and animator Pierangelo Pirak have teamed up to give new life to the world renowned linguist and media analyst’s famed work.

Here ya'go Box, they made a cartoon so you could understand how propaganda works.