The culture of the smug white liberal

[FakeNews]

I have spent my life as a Democrat which probably isn’t that surprising considering that I am African-American. One of the things that always attracted me to the party were the ideals of equality, fighting for the little guy and our openness to differing opinions, but lately I have seen my party take a turn that makes me uncomfortable. Somewhere along the way we stopped fighting for the little guy and became the party of the smug, educated elites who look down on those with less education and deem them unable or unworthy of being able to make personal decisions for their own lives.

My problem with Liberalism is that it’s more concerned with policing people’s language and thoughts without requiring them to do anything to fix the problem. White liberal college students speak of “safe spaces”, “trigger words”, “micro aggressions” and “white privilege” while not having to do anything or, more importantly, give up anything. They can’t even have a conversation with someone who sees the world differently without resorting to calling someone a racist, homophobic, misogynistic, bigot and trying to have them banned from campus, or ruin them and their reputation. They say they feel black peoples’ pain because they took a trip to Africa to help the disadvantaged, but are unwilling to go to a black neighborhood in the City in which they live. These same college students will espouse the joys of diversity, but will in the same breath assume you are only on campus because of affirmative action or that all black people grew up in poverty. My personal favorite is declaring with surprise how articulate a black classmate is despite the fact that we are attending the same institution of higher learning as they are.

The culture of the smug white liberal... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nikki-johnsonhuston-esq/the-culture-of-the-smug-w_b_11537306.html

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Somebody needs to read some Eric Hoffer...



The problem here is that in the flush of their victory, the frustrated lesser intellectual class felt that they had arrived, came out of the shadows and prepared themselves to finally openly rule alongside of the government that they advise and direct. Now those they meant to rule are discovering that they were used and manipulated by the seductive passions of group identity politics.

 

[Rightguide]

Somebody needs to read some Eric Hoffer...



The problem here is that in the flush of their victory, the frustrated lesser intellectual class felt that they had arrived, came out of the shadows and prepared themselves to finally openly rule alongside of the government that they advise and direct. Now those they meant to rule are discovering that they were used and manipulated by the seductive passions of group identity politics.

Liberals are aghast at their present demeaning circumstance, slammed up tight against the curb of Mainstreet America, their political harangues interpreted as embarrassing angry weakness by the American majority.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Every liberal I know devoutly believes his contribution is made when she makes her demand. No blood, sweat, or tears. Just hot air.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Smug != wrong.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Liberals are aghast at their present demeaning circumstance, slammed up tight against the curb of Mainstreet America, their political harangues interpreted as embarrassing angry weakness by the American majority.

The majority are liberal. Go on, ask me for a cite. I'll provide it, and you'll ignore it like always.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Smug != wrong.

But smug does = lost elections.

The majority are liberal.

No they aren't, not the 'liberal' you're speaking of (communist in denial and social justice regressive types) those people are very much the minority. And they are not only alienating a majority chunk of moderate (D)'s and actual liberals but destroying the DNC in the process.

Please.....force Hillary in 2020 again on another fuck white people campaign. LOL her and the hot sauce in her purse will be awesome!!

Go on, ask me for a cite. I'll provide it, and you'll ignore it like always.

Nobody cares about your confirmation bias from Salon or some other regressive lefty rag.

 

[KingOrfeo]

No they aren't, not the 'liberal' you're speaking of (communist in denial and social justice regressive types) those people are very much the minority.

See the 2014 edition of the Pew Political Typology. The typology groups that can be classed as liberal add up to 42% of the general population; conservative groups only amount to 36%.

 

[Rightguide]

The majority are liberal. Go on, ask me for a cite. I'll provide it, and you'll ignore it like always.

No need for a cite, the "majority" you speak of doesn't exist in reality or practice. If it does it is the most emasculated majority in history. Its power has faded, its great men are gone. You are radical ideological midgets standing on the shoulders of greater more politically astute people. Your power as a national party is evaporating into a coastal archipelago of debt-ridden social anarchies teeming with ignorance. Yours is a domain in need of enlightenment, a reformation, a reckoning, and it's coming.

 

[KingOrfeo]

No need for a cite, the "majority" you speak of doesn't exist in reality or practice.

See post #8. And then ignore it, like always.

Your power as a national party is evaporating into a coastal archipelago of debt-ridden social anarchies teeming with ignorance.

The blue states are doing better than the red states by every relevant measure.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

But smug does = lost elections.



No they aren't, not the 'liberal' you're speaking of (communist in denial and social justice regressive types) those people are very much the minority. And they are not only alienating a majority chunk of moderate (D)'s and actual liberals but destroying the DNC in the process.

Please.....force Hillary in 2020 again on another fuck white people campaign. LOL her and the hot sauce in her purse will be awesome!!



Nobody cares about your confirmation bias from Salon or some other regressive lefty rag.

Myth buster: http://www.thirdway.org/report/why-demography-does-not-equal-destiny

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

See post #8. And then ignore it, like always.



The blue states are doing better than the red states by every relevant measure.

Biased opinion piece by a long-time partisan activist.

Here's a metric, debt and underfunded public pensions. In these metrics, Blue States do indeed lead the pack...

 

[BotanyBoy]

See the 2014 edition of the Pew Political Typology. The typology groups that can be classed as liberal add up to 42% of the general population; conservative groups only amount to 36%.

And the majority of the 42% has rejected you and the other regressive social justice (D)'s, who fucking HATE liberalism and everything about its core principals. The 42% is no longer a unified front KO.....get a clue already. You and the regressive socialist have all alienated the liberals, and especially the white ones. Please keep up the 'fuck white people' brand of extreme anti-American leftism, it's working great LOL

You guys couldn't even beat Trump, the 2nd most hated candidate ever because all the liberals like me said "Fuck no, I'd rather watch it burn".

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

No need for a cite, the "majority" you speak of doesn't exist in reality or practice. If it does it is the most emasculated majority in history. Its power has faded, its great men are gone. You are radical ideological midgets standing on the shoulders of greater more politically astute people. Your power as a national party is evaporating into a coastal archipelago of debt-ridden social anarchies teeming with ignorance. Yours is a domain in need of enlightenment, a reformation, a reckoning, and it's coming.

Read the link I just posted. Liberals are a minority (and if you combine this with the five-part analysis at RCP) who are highly concentrated in warrens where they hear no opinion of fact outside of their ideological bubble.


Conclusions reached by the RCP examination of the election which are in parallel with the other link: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/01/20/how_trump_won_--_conclusions_132846.html

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

And the majority of the 42% has rejected you and the other regressive social justice (D)'s, who fucking HATE liberalism and everything about its core principals. The 42% is no longer a unified front KO.....get a clue already.

You guys couldn't even beat Trump, the 2nd most hated candidate ever because all the liberals like me said "Fuck no, I'd rather watch it burn."

From KO's link:

"Solid Liberals, who constitute 15% of the public and 17% of registered voters, are the anchor of the Democratic Party’s electoral coalition – the most avid and loyal voters, holding liberal views across nearly all issues."



He's including a lot of people who do not identify as liberals to get to that number...


"Taken together, these three groups form the electoral base of the Democratic and Republican Parties, and their influence on American politics is strong. While Solid Liberals, Steadfast Conservatives and Business Conservatives collectively make up only 36% of the American public, they represent 43% of registered voters and fully 57% of the more politically engaged segment of the American public: those who regularly vote and routinely follow government and public affairs.

"The other typology groups are less partisan, less predictable and have little in common with each other or the groups at either end of the political spectrum. The one thing they do share is that they are less engaged politically than the groups on the right or left."

You always have to take everything KO posts with a grain of salt when it comes to his use of statistics...

 

[BotanyBoy]

Myth buster: http://www.thirdway.org/report/why-demography-does-not-equal-destiny

It's like the racial demographics....they think all these categorical boxes are block votes for them, and they continue to fail to realize they aren't, there are just lots of individuals with a variety of views.


My hood of 7 people, has 3 POC in it.....we are further right (freedom fans) than any of the white people here who are more like KO, seeking MAXIMUM government oppression.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

In almost all categories, the moderates predominate...

 

[KingOrfeo]

The 42% is no longer a unified front KO.....get a clue already.

It never was. So what? FDR won by putting together a diverse coalition, and there's no reason the Dems can't do the same in 2020.

 

[BotanyBoy]

From KO's link:

"Solid Liberals, who constitute 15% of the public and 17% of registered voters, are the anchor of the Democratic Party’s electoral coalition – the most avid and loyal voters, holding liberal views across nearly all issues."



He's including a lot of people who do not identify as liberals to get to that number...


"Taken together, these three groups form the electoral base of the Democratic and Republican Parties, and their influence on American politics is strong. While Solid Liberals, Steadfast Conservatives and Business Conservatives collectively make up only 36% of the American public, they represent 43% of registered voters and fully 57% of the more politically engaged segment of the American public: those who regularly vote and routinely follow government and public affairs.

"The other typology groups are less partisan, less predictable and have little in common with each other or the groups at either end of the political spectrum. The one thing they do share is that they are less engaged politically than the groups on the right or left."

You always have to take everything KO posts with a grain of salt when it comes to his use of statistics...

And calling a lot of regressive leftist who fucking HATE liberty of any kind, "liberals" as well.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It never was. So what?

So that makes that 42% you're claiming a steaming pile.....

FDR won by putting together a diverse coalition, and there's no reason the Dems can't do the same in 2020.

Except the fact that Dems have no interest in a unified coalition.

Economically they want their 1% pampered and fuck everyone else, the Obama administration and DNC made that perfectly clear.

Socially all bad things are because evil white people and freedom, which are both horrible!!! EVIL!~!! and must be destroyed at all cost.

Keep running on that guys!! It's working great.

 

[Rightguide]

See post #8. And then ignore it, like always.

You've lost the House, the Senate, Presidency, the vast majority of state governorships and legislatures, and a plethora of county, and city offices since Obama was elected. So if you have a majority, it's a majority of impotent losers.

 

[Conager]

See the 2014 edition of the Pew Political Typology. The typology groups that can be classed as liberal add up to 42% of the general population; conservative groups only amount to 36%.

Typical. So you cobble together a bunch of labels that don't use the word liberal and you get some people to agree that that sounds like them and then you decide that they must be liberal based on the label that they picked. How about you just keep it simple and ask, "Are you liberal or conservative?" if you actually ask that question 20% say liberal 40% say conservative.

With your idiotic methodologies the head of the national Log Cabin Republicans would be a liberal.

If you pose the question correctly you can get any results you want from a poll which is why Hillary Clinton won the election, as predicted by polling.

Unfortunately this nonsense it's just to placate the base of 20% liberal such as yourself to let them think that they aren't a complete 9ddity. Actual Democrat strategies understand everything you're saying is bullshit. I wish Democrat strategist believed as you do.

The number of self identifying lberal men is even lower than 20%

 

[KingOrfeo]

Typical. So you forge a bunch of labels that don't use the word liberal and you get some people to agree that that sounds like them and then you decide that they must be liberal based on the label that they picked. How about you just keep it simple and ask, "are you liberal or conservative?" if you actually ask that question 20% say liberal 40% say conservative.

That method would only poll for the popularity of the words. Polls show many Americans now prefer socialism to capitalism, but as the polling questions do not define "socialism" or "capitalism" it doesn't mean much. The Pew Center's method is to poll for opinions on a range of political questions, then sort the respondents into typology groups based on their answers. Isn't that better?

 

[Rightguide]

Read the link I just posted. Liberals are a minority (and if you combine this with the five-part analysis at RCP) who are highly concentrated in warrens where they hear no opinion of fact outside of their ideological bubble.


Conclusions reached by the RCP examination of the election which are in parallel with the other link: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/01/20/how_trump_won_--_conclusions_132846.html

California is a good example of that bubble. What happened in this last election is more conservative minded Americans went to the polls out of abject fear and loathing of another Obama term via Hillary Clinton.

No matter how many times they try and paint Tom Perez as "mainstream" and Ellison as "harmless" those notions will be immediately sunk by their socialist, race-baiting jargon. Both are radical racists, they love race-based identity politics and open borders. All the shit that most people hate.

 

[KingOrfeo]

California is a good example of that bubble.

California is a place where liberal policies benefit the economy and Kansas is a place where conservative policies harm the economy. Take a lesson from that.