There's no pride in computer programming?!

[KingOrfeo]

Reverend Franklin Graham:

“That’s the problem with the politicians in Washington,” he said. “They sit down there and they do nothing. Now we’ve got a man who’s coming into the White House who wants to get things done. And I hope and I pray — we all as Americans, we need to pray for the president-elect and vice president-elect.”

“Start working to make America great again, that’s what Trump wants to do,” the pastor continued. “We need jobs, we need to get employment up, we need to have hope for the future. And the only way you’re going to have hope for the future is if a kid goes to college and comes out and knows, ‘I can get a job and I can get a good paying job and maybe I can work my way up the ladder.'”

According to Graham, graduates are not finding jobs because companies have shifted to overseas manufacturing.

“This is terrible. I live in North Carolina where so much of our manufacturing base has gone to other countries,” he insisted. “And people are out of jobs, are out of work. And they say, ‘But we’ll retrain you, we’ll let you be a computer programmer.'”

“They don’t want to be a computer programmer!” Graham continued. “They want to do the same job as their fathers and their grandfathers. There was pride in the manufacturing and the building. And we’ve taken all that away and it’s sad.”

Now, what kinda dumbass talk is that?! You don't take pride in work because it makes you sweat or get dirty! You take pride in work because you're earning your own bread, and adding something to the wealth of the nation! So long as it does that, how is there any less dignity in writing a computer program than in laying bricks, or digging up coal, or plowing a field, or putting parts together on an assembly line?!

 

[BotanyBoy]

So long as it does that, how is there any less dignity in writing a computer program than in laying bricks, or digging up coal, or plowing a field, or putting parts together on an assembly line?!

There isn't, but they don't want to be a cubical monkey and they would appreciate it if you and the other elitist (D) would quit telling them they can't be farmers, miners or builders because Monsanto, Vulcan and whatever Construction corp. paid them big bucks to make sure they were the only ones with licences.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

There isn't, but they don't want to be a cubical monkey and they would appreciate it if you and the other elitist (D) would quit telling them they can't be farmers, miners or builders because Monsanto, Vulcan and whatever Construction corp. paid them big bucks to make sure they were the only ones with licences.

Exactly. I used to program for a living. Now I do blue collar work because it better suits my nature.

(Additionally, my father was a programmer/operator, so I am clearly not longing to do what my dad did...)



I think that this is just KingO looking for examples of America that he hates, targeting them and trying to ridicule them because it is what the Left does.

 

[about_average]

“They don’t want to be a computer programmer!” Graham continued. “They want to do the same job as their fathers and their grandfathers. There was pride in the manufacturing and the building. And we’ve taken all that away and it’s sad.”

Now, what kinda dumbass talk is that?! You don't take pride in work because it makes you sweat or get dirty! You take pride in work because you're earning your own bread, and adding something to the wealth of the nation! So long as it does that, how is there any less dignity in writing a computer program than in laying bricks, or digging up coal, or plowing a field, or putting parts together on an assembly line?!

I didn't read it as programming being less dignified than manual labor, but the fact is that not everyone is suited for programming. And it's true that some people find more satisfaction in manual labor, being able to literally step back, look at something they made/built and feel satisfied.

What the person quoted doesn't understand is that most such manufacturing jobs are not coming back. If a person wants manual labor then something other than "what my father did" needs to be found for the people.
The people saying manufacturing jobs are going to be brought back are living in a fantasy land. Unless the government bans automation.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

But have you figured out how to use robots on your "crumbling infrastructure?"



And in the short term, with the new administration and its guiding business and taxing philosophies, we do see the short-term revival of those jobs.

And by the way, programming jobs are about to go the way of the buggy-whip manufacturer too. We're at the point where computers can program more efficiently than people.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Exactly. I used to program for a living. Now I do blue collar work because it better suits my nature.

You do blue collar work because you couldn't keep up your skillset as a programmer. Not too much demand for FORTRAN programmers out there in the sticks, is there?

 

[KingOrfeo]

What the person quoted doesn't understand is that most such manufacturing jobs are not coming back. If a person wants manual labor then something other than "what my father did" needs to be found for the people.
The people saying manufacturing jobs are going to be brought back are living in a fantasy land. Unless the government bans automation.

That's the problem in a nutshell. Technological unemployment. We can't ban light bulbs to make work for lamplighters. A Communist state could make a policy decision not to upgrade its technology. But in a capitalist country, a manufacturing company that decides to do things the old-fashioned way, by employing a large workforce, will go out of business, because it cannot bring goods to market as cheaply as a competitor who uses automation.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Get a job building automation equipment.

Stuck in a cubical all day doesn't sound any better than standing at a production station in a line all day.

Usually can't go wring getting an actual trade. One you need serve an apprenticeship for. Even Jesus was a carpenter before being a messiah. Got to have a trade to fall back on.

 

[renard_ruse]

Most of the computer programmers are foreigners imported by big business and the tech industry.

In this day and age, they could stay in their own country and work remotely but no, that wouldn't change American demographics or complete the genocide of the historical majority group, so that goes up like a lead balloon.