Making someone itch

[MeesterAndrew]

I've read up on itching powder. Apparently it doesn't work... or rather it doesn't work with everyone. When it does work it needs something to rub against like clothing so not really practical for BDSM play. I know chemical varieties should work but that's kinda hard to come by. Please don't say nettles. Nettles, mosquitoes and fibreglass will work but it's not really the answer I'm looking for. If it's for punishment where you want someone to be agonising over their actions for the next few weeks then sure but not what I have in mind for a temporary play session.

So I was thinking what else can I use and came up with... pool acid! The scenario is as follows:
She gets suspended spreadeagled in the air. If she can be turned around as well then all the better. It may work better if she's suspended vertically to have easier access to her body. The acid gets applied in small drops all over her body (labia as well, but not inside) using a syringe or something. As it dries the drops get smaller and more concentrated. At some point it should cause a burning itchy sensation in small spots all over her body.

As no large area is completely covered it should be safe to the skin. Possibility of any allergic reaction is also minimised. I thought about using a spray bottle for more intensity but then it should be done with caution not to apply too much and cause damage to the skin, there's also a bigger possibility of an allergic reaction.

 

[PaxNurgle]

hmmm...not so much a fan of etching someone with acid; lets just say that isn't my kink and it definitely isn't something I would employ as punishment, but I won't judge you on it. Rather I would be concerned with safety. Pool acid is Hydrochloric acid (HCl) and that can cause severe skin and tissue damage.

 

[Nezhul]

Just saying. It can cause severe skin damage and scarring (permanent) as well as numerous other complications. It can also make someone very ill or even cause death.

If I heard someone was going to do that to me - I'd dump that person this instant for being dangerous for my health.

So no, get it out of your mind and find some other punishment that doesn't involve chemicals.

 

[aFairy]

It sounds dangerous enough to say: NO fucking way.!.


I am sure there are much safer and natural ways to make someone itch.

 

[MeekMe]

I'm hesitating to offer this because you sound like you don't know what you're doing, OP.

Pool acid sounds like a bad idea. And before you cause an allergic reaction you should be testing a small patch no matter what you're using.

Some people are sensitive to taro root in its raw form. It can cause itching for hours because it contains calcium oxalate. It can be sliced and rubbed on the skin or ground into a paste. Always test to make sure the reaction won't be too strong especially if you want to use it all over the body. Look up taro root and research it before using.

Test Patch! And inform the person it may be used on that you plan to use it, make sure they aren't allergic and have a plan if things go wrong.

 

[Nezhul]

By the way, even lemon acid can leave permanent marks and burns, just so you know.

Using any of the more aggressive acids is plain dangerous.

Also pool acid is a chemical which is very bad for humans, and I mean REALLY bad.

 

[MeekMe]

By the way, even lemon acid can leave permanent marks and burns, just so you know.

Using any of the more aggressive acids is plain dangerous.

Also pool acid is a chemical which is very bad for humans, and I mean REALLY bad.

This is true. Lemon juice is sometimes used to bleach the skin as well and does produce a burning or itching sensation on contact.

OP, if you think applying "pool acid" which I'm assuming you mean hydrochloric acid to the skin is a good idea then I think you should step away from the chemical play. Leaving it on skin can cause burns. Hydrochloric acid or muriatic acid are corrosive to human tissue and it is advised to wash it off with water immediately to prevent serious burns.

 

[MeesterAndrew]

hmmm...not so much a fan of etching someone with acid; lets just say that isn't my kink and it definitely isn't something I would employ as punishment, but I won't judge you on it. Rather I would be concerned with safety. Pool acid is Hydrochloric acid (HCl) and that can cause severe skin and tissue damage.

I didn't say etching, I said itching. And to the people talking about reactions, that's why I said small droplets, not even drops. Of course it will be tested first.

Weird people find something dangerous yet they play with nettles which is way more uncontrolled and dangerous.

I am open to other ideas but as I've researched this I know there aren't exactly "safe" and effective means.

 

[MeekMe]

I didn't say etching, I said itching. And to the people talking about reactions, that's why I said small droplets, not even drops. Of course it will be tested first.

Weird people find something dangerous yet they play with nettles which is way more uncontrolled and dangerous.

I am open to other ideas but as I've researched this I know there aren't exactly "safe" and effective means.

Yeah, it is dangerous and you're asking strangers on the internet to suggest other dangerous things to use. No, it's never fully "safe" but you can certainly try to minimize the risk. If you've researched "this" then you would know that even professionals quickly wash off "pool acid" to avoid burns. On top of it needing to be washed off to avoid burns (chemical burns leave nasty scars) you're talking about leaving it on the skin long enough for it to dry up and become more concentrated and also applying it to tender sensitive skin (labia).

Jesus fuck I hope the lady you're playing with understands something about chemical play before she lets you permanently mutilate her.

 

[CutieMouse]

I'm still trying to figure out how the OP went from "stinging nettles = bad idea"(something that Farmers, ranchers, hikers, pets, etc come into contact with AND has plenty of research behind it [BDSM and otherwise) to "pool acid = good idea" (a chemical known to cause serious burns).

If it's that important to make someone itch, why not just buy "itching powder" off Amazon?

https://www.amazon.com/Special-Ingredients-Hellfire-Brimstone-Itching/dp/B0079N88U0

 

[MeesterAndrew]

Yeah, it is dangerous and you're asking strangers on the internet to suggest other dangerous things to use. No, it's never fully "safe" but you can certainly try to minimize the risk. If you've researched "this" then you would know that even professionals quickly wash off "pool acid" to avoid burns. On top of it needing to be washed off to avoid burns (chemical burns leave nasty scars) you're talking about leaving it on the skin long enough for it to dry up and become more concentrated and also applying it to tender sensitive skin (labia).

Jesus fuck I hope the lady you're playing with understands something about chemical play before she lets you permanently mutilate her.

You know this is really ironic. People moan about something that they don't understand. "Oh noes you can't possibly be thinking of something like this because it's really dangerous. People splash it on themselves accidentally and then have to wash it off immediately."

Not even remotely the same thing here but that's what ignorance brings. Yet people do things all the time that are dangerous and even more dangerous.

Electricity. Don't see anybody complain about that yet you can kill someone even days afterwards. Needles. Don't see anybody complaining about infections which regularly occur as a result. Cutting. Have never seen anybody mention anything about scarring there. Heck even hanging someone upside down has a very real potential of causing an existing aneurism to erupt.

But just bring up something people have no real knowledge of and don't understand and it's all YKINOK

 

[CutieMouse]

You know this is really ironic. People moan about something that they don't understand. "Oh noes you can't possibly be thinking of something like this because it's really dangerous. People splash it on themselves accidentally and then have to wash it off immediately."

Not even remotely the same thing here but that's what ignorance brings. Yet people do things all the time that are dangerous and even more dangerous.

Electricity. Don't see anybody complain about that yet you can kill someone even days afterwards. Needles. Don't see anybody complaining about infections which regularly occur as a result. Cutting. Have never seen anybody mention anything about scarring there. Heck even hanging someone upside down has a very real potential of causing an existing aneurism to erupt.

But just bring up something people have no real knowledge of and don't understand and it's all YKINOK

Dude. If you've "never" heard people discussing the risks of those things, you're hanging out in the wrong circles...

 

[MeesterAndrew]

I'm still trying to figure out how the OP went from "stinging nettles = bad idea"(something that Farmers, ranchers, hikers, pets, etc come into contact with AND has plenty of research behind it [BDSM and otherwise) to "pool acid = good idea" (a chemical known to cause serious burns).

If it's that important to make someone itch, why not just buy "itching powder" off Amazon?

https://www.amazon.com/Special-Ingredients-Hellfire-Brimstone-Itching/dp/B0079N88U0

Maybe read it again and do the actual research and you'll understand. Nettles can kill you btw and not just if you're allergic to them. You seem to be of the type of people that paint everything under the same brush. A little bit of nettle's is ok so obviously a large amount would be too. Except NOT. 10g of paracetamol can kill you so why take pain pills? By your reasoning you shouldn't as it's too dangerous.

 

[MeesterAndrew]

Dude. If you've "never" heard people discussing the risks of those things, you're hanging out in the wrong circles...

Dude, I know all about risks and people discussing it. It's never a conversation that starts off with "no this is too dangerous, don't attempt, you don't know what you're doing" though. This is the first time I've ever seen or experienced it and it's all because people are being ignorant and not applying common sense.

 

[MeekMe]

You know this is really ironic. People moan about something that they don't understand. "Oh noes you can't possibly be thinking of something like this because it's really dangerous. People splash it on themselves accidentally and then have to wash it off immediately."

Not even remotely the same thing here but that's what ignorance brings. Yet people do things all the time that are dangerous and even more dangerous.

Electricity. Don't see anybody complain about that yet you can kill someone even days afterwards. Needles. Don't see anybody complaining about infections which regularly occur as a result. Cutting. Have never seen anybody mention anything about scarring there. Heck even hanging someone upside down has a very real potential of causing an existing aneurism to erupt.

But just bring up something people have no real knowledge of and don't understand and it's all YKINOK

<---likes playing with chemicals It's why you're being given alternatives and not getting a round of applause for your idea.

Plenty of people here play with electricity (calling DVS) and needles and cutting. They do those things with CAUTION and they and their partners are FULLY INFORMED OF THE RISKS and consent to taking those risks.

Put some hydrochloric acid on yourself and wait it out. Come back and tell us how it goes. Have a plan for neutralizing the acid and know when to see a doctor. No one is "kink shaming" you but certainly people are warning you of the dangers.


Anybody wondering why we don't typically give ideas to newbies asking for tasks and punishments, this thread is a good example.

 

[MeesterAndrew]

<---likes playing with chemicals It's why you're being given alternatives and not getting a round of applause for your idea.

Plenty of people here play with electricity (calling DVS) and needles and cutting. They do those things with CAUTION and they and their partners are FULLY INFORMED OF THE RISKS and consent to taking those risks.

Put some hydrochloric acid on yourself and wait it out. Come back and tell us how it goes. Have a plan for neutralizing the acid and know when to see a doctor. No one is "kink shaming" you but certainly people are warning you of the dangers.


Anybody wondering why we don't typically give ideas to newbies asking for tasks and punishments, this thread is a good example.

It didn't start off with alternatives. It started off with judgment and just so you know your kink is not ok. In case you still don't understand it I'll say it plainly, you're a hypocrite.

You may see and judge me as a newbie because it's the first time I post on this forum but that doesn't mean I haven't been around a while. It's the first time I've encountered such judgment though.

 

[Nezhul]

yea, put some on yourself, on the inner side of your elbow. That's where your skin is thinner (and comparable to the skin of a girl, let alone her labia).

Also, I don't know why you are so deluded about nettles. They are not only safe, but also quite beneficial (unless you have an alergy). The stings wear off after 12 hours, and all in all they are used in many folk medicine.

Whereas hydrochloric acid... well... I'll just leave this here:
http://chemicalengineeringmagazine.com/how-to-treat-hydrochloric-acid-burn-on-the-skin/

and this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYdnzfp_4Cs

The rule of thumb you want to follow - NEVER use anything that is called "Hazardous materials" in any type of BDSM play. If you end up ruining her skin for the rest of your life - it's a tragedy that no ammount of you being sorry will fix.

And I hope you realize that even if you use "droplets" of acid - that is still a chemical burn, only on a very small scale. It's still the cells of her skin melting away into fleshy mush, to be later replaced by scar tissue.

Seriously, your "I want to do that" is so strong here that you are willing to brush off and ignore all safety.

I just hope to god you are honest enough to direct your girlfriend to this thread and let her make her own decision on how nonsentical and overreactive the people here are.
If she thinks some acid play is fine - go ahead. It's her health. At least I'm confident she's not being mutilated as a part of her "game" and getting hurt because of her own choice.

And I also hope that it's not a "surprise" endevour you are planning here, because that would be just sick. Like: "Oh honey you feel that itching? I just brushed some acid onto your skin, haha, ain't I ingenious?" - I hope that's not your case, at least.

 

[MeekMe]

It didn't start off with alternatives. It started off with judgment and just so you know your kink is not ok. In case you still don't understand it I'll say it plainly, you're a hypocrite.

You may see and judge me as a newbie because it's the first time I post on this forum but that doesn't mean I haven't been around a while. It's the first time I've encountered such judgment though.

I'm not a hypocrite and I don't expect anyone else to be on board with my kinks. I don't need anyone else to validate what I do. I gave you an alternative in my very first post to this thread. A root that when cooked is edible and when not cooked causes itching.

So yeah, let us know how putting hydrochloric acid on yourself goes.

 

[Nezhul]

It didn't start off with alternatives. It started off with judgment and just so you know your kink is not ok. In case you still don't understand it I'll say it plainly, you're a hypocrite.

You may see and judge me as a newbie because it's the first time I post on this forum but that doesn't mean I haven't been around a while. It's the first time I've encountered such judgment though.

Etching someone's skin with acid is not a kink. It's just as saying that burning someone's skin with cigarette stubs is a kink.

It's not.

Kink in BDSM by definition is always something that does NOT cause any lasting harm. People here are telling you that your method is dangerous, and you just brush them off because YOU WANT IT SO BADLY!

 

[Cumference]

"some other bovine feces"

But just bring up something people have no real knowledge of and don't understand and it's all YKINOK

I have the formal as well as the practical knowledge when it comes to working with corrosive substances.

I will not give you any YKINOK.

I will put it more clearly: What you suggest is downright stupid and irresponsible.


Cumference, out.

 

[CutieMouse]

Maybe read it again and do the actual research and you'll understand. Nettles can kill you btw and not just if you're allergic to them. You seem to be of the type of people that paint everything under the same brush. A little bit of nettle's is ok so obviously a large amount would be too. Except NOT. 10g of paracetamol can kill you so why take pain pills? By your reasoning you shouldn't as it's too dangerous.

Where did I say stinging nettles were perfectly safe in large amounts? I pointed out reactions to stinging nettles, research about the risks, and BDSM based information about using stinging nettles is easier to find than safe use of pool acid on a woman's labia.

Pool acid can also kill you, BTW.

 

[Nezhul]

Pool acid can also kill you, BTW.

And in much smaller ammounts, so I don't get your logic about it being better than nettles.

EVERYTHING can kill you in large enough ammounts. Even air and water. But the question is - how small an amount should be to cause you harm.

With hydrochloric acid - the amount is VERY small.
With nettles - you will need a truck of nettles before you can kill somebody with them. And we do not talk about concentrated extracts here. To get you 10g of nettle acid - you will need to go through A TON.

 

[MeesterAndrew]

yea, put some on yourself, on the inner side of your elbow. That's where your skin is thinner (and comparable to the skin of a girl, let alone her labia).

Also, I don't know why you are so deluded about nettles. They are not only safe, but also quite beneficial (unless you have an alergy). The stings wear off after 12 hours, and all in all they are used in many folk medicine.

Whereas hydrochloric acid... well... I'll just leave this here:
http://chemicalengineeringmagazine.com/how-to-treat-hydrochloric-acid-burn-on-the-skin/

and this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYdnzfp_4Cs

The rule of thumb you want to follow - NEVER use anything that is called "Hazardous materials" in any type of BDSM play. If you end up ruining her skin for the rest of your life - it's a tragedy that no ammount of you being sorry will fix.

And I hope you realize that even if you use "droplets" of acid - that is still a chemical burn, only on a very small scale. It's still the cells of her skin melting away into fleshy mush, to be later replaced by scar tissue.

Seriously, your "I want to do that" is so strong here that you are willing to brush off and ignore all safety.

I just hope to god you are honest enough to direct your girlfriend to this thread and let her make her own decision on how nonsentical and overreactive the people here are.
If she thinks some acid play is fine - go ahead. It's her health. At least I'm confident she's not being mutilated as a part of her "game" and getting hurt because of her own choice.

And I also hope that it's not a "surprise" endevour you are planning here, because that would be just sick. Like: "Oh honey you feel that itching? I just brushed some acid onto your skin, haha, ain't I ingenious?" - I hope that's not your case, at least.

I have news for you, NOTHING is safe. And by nothing I mean nothing. Even drinking water can kill you. If you have that attitude you are seriously deluding yourself and are not aware of the true risks of anything you do. I really hope you are not involved with anyone and won't be either as long as you have this attitude as you are running a great risk of seriously hurting someone unintentionally.

Also there are no rules. You are seriously deluding yourself here as we all make this up as we go along. For some edge play is acceptable while others cringe at needles. To each their own. I would never tell someone else what they should or should not do.

Etching someone's skin with acid is not a kink. It's just as saying that burning someone's skin with cigarette stubs is a kink.

It's not.

Kink in BDSM by definition is always something that does NOT cause any lasting harm. People here are telling you that your method is dangerous, and you just brush them off because YOU WANT IT SO BADLY!

And you're still of the bandwagon of etching. Learn to either read or comprehend properly.

And yes, burning with a cigarette stump is a kink for some. Some get off on doing it and some get off on receiving it. There are no definitions. Stop being hypocrites. To each their own.

Where did I say stinging nettles were perfectly safe in large amounts? I pointed out reactions to stinging nettles, research about the risks, and BDSM based information about using stinging nettles is easier to find than safe use of pool acid on a woman's labia.

Pool acid can also kill you, BTW.

Great, so you're saying it's not completely safe. Someone else here says it is.

 

[Nezhul]

I have news for you, NOTHING is safe. And by nothing I mean nothing. Even drinking water can kill you.

Dude, that's completely true.

But this rule doesn't work in reverse. It doesn't mean that ANYTHING is safe in smaller amounts. It's not.

Hydrochloric acid is NOT safe for humans - in no amounts. Get this out of your head.

I really hope you are not involved with anyone and won't be either as long as you have this attitude as you are running a great risk of seriously hurting someone unintentionally.

You are the guy who wants to put acid to girl's skin and you are telling ME?

Haha.

To each their own. I would never tell someone else what they should or should not do.

Is acid for her? Or for you?
Again, as I said, if you direct her to this thread and she decides to go with it - that's fine by me. I'll still tell her time and time again that she shouldn't do that, because apparently I'm a hypocrite like that.

But the problem here is that it's not her who's asking this shit. It's you. And you, as a dominant, is in a position of power over someone else.
What YOU want should matter little. What SHE gets matters a lot.

Right now all I see is a guy who wants to play with fire, but risking not your own hide - but someone else's. Literally.
For me - this is reason enough to tell you what you SHOULD - no, MUST do.

If you are so irresponsible that you think you can make this decision - any decision, really - FOR your submissive.... You are just a very lousy dominant. That's it.

A Dominant is not someone in charge. It's not someone with power. It's not someone who makes decisions. That's a common delusion of the amateurs.
A dominant is someone who guides his sub on a journey over pre-determined set of rules and limits. If something is not in the limits (yet) - it gets discussed.
Any new activity gets researched thoroughly, tested on YOURSELF, tested with your submissive in a free non-sexual environment, and only THEN if THEY agree it gets to be allowed in the bedroom.
You NEVER pull surprises on your submissive in the form of new activities. And that said, your submissive's experience is MORE important that yours.
And a Dominant NEVER does anything that can be potentially harmful. NEVER. For any activity you take as many precautions as possible.

People are telling you over and over not to play with hazardous materials. They are called like that for a reason. There are people with chemical degrees telling you that. There are all sorts of sites you can find via Google that will tell you how DANGEROUS the acid is.

Remember when I talked about precautions? BDSM play should be designed in such a manner that any activity could be stopped immediately. Even ropes are tied in such a way to be untied or cut off in a matter of seconds.
Acid? The thing with it - you can't wash it away. You need to rince the affected place with water for 15-30 minutes to wash it.
That's not nearly as fast as you want.
And how long will it take you to get her untied and into shower if something goes wrong, huh? The acid will work a good number on her skin during that period.

That's not SAFE. People are telling you it's not SAFE. Not because they judge your kinks - but because it's DANGEROUS. You just won't accept it.

But You? You just have your desire above everything else - above common sense, above your girlfriend's wellbeing.

Fuck you.

Stop being hypocrites. To each their own.

When I hear this from your girlfriend, I will stop getting on your case.

For now, for all I know, you will cover her with "droplets" of hazardous acid for your own sick amusement without informing her properly and discussing the dangers. Or, in the best case scenario, telling her your personal opinion about how dangerous it is and presenting it in a good way.

Because you want to make her Itch. Because you WANT it. Because YOU want it.

Where did I say stinging nettles were perfectly safe in large amounts? I pointed out reactions to stinging nettles, research about the risks, and BDSM based information about using stinging nettles is easier to find than safe use of pool acid on a woman's labia.

Pool acid can also kill you, BTW.

Great, so you're saying it's not completely safe. Someone else here says it is.

You saw only what you wanted to see i this quote, and ignored everything else.

 

[twister947]

Wow..........